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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry Whalley View Post
    tldr
    yep sticking your head in the sand has worked out so well in the past,so keep doing it while expecting different results.

    You said that the union has Wall Street investments,please educate me and show me where those investments are.

    The Biden administration awarded $36 billion Thursday to prevent cuts to the pensions of roughly 357,000 union workers and retirees.
    It’s the largest federal award of its kind, according to theWhite House



    • The $1.9 trillion Covid relief bill offers $86 billion in grants to failing multi-employer pension plans, to help pay benefits for union workers.
    • Funding in more than 100 plans [[nearly 10% of the total) are in critical shape. A Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation program that serves as a financial backstop is also nearly insolvent.
    • If the unions were investing in Wall Street they would not need non union taxpayers to bail them out,so the reality of it is,hard working non union taxpayers are having to pay the way for union members to enjoy the benefits of what the union provides.
    • So one union alone spends $66 million to fund politicians and then has to be bailed out by everyday non union workers.


    You are forcing me as a taxpayer to support the unions and the candidates of their choice when I have zero to do with unions and want zero to do with the candidates of their choice.

    So how come that same $66 million was not spent on the members who put it up ?

    So you are taking not only members dues to support causes and politicians you are also forcing non members,People that have zero to do with unions a forcing them to support the unions and to pay to support politicians that they would never support.

    You would be okay with me forcing you to kick in to financially support a candidate of my choice while not giving you a choice?

    The more I dig into it,the unions are not there to support the workers,they are there to exploit the workers for the benefit of the politicians,it’s like a little socialist run country within a country disguised as a union.

    The reality is you guys just hitched your wagon to a dead horse ,and like Mr Henry instead of dealing with it,people are going to stick their head in the sand and hope it goes away.

    Just great going down this fricking rabbit hole,now in the future when somebody tells me they are retired on a pension it will be a fancy way of saying they are on section 8 and I have to pay more in taxes in order to help support them so they can live a comfortable lifestyle.

    Better then me in a lot of cases.

    You have to admit they are pretty savoy,spend $66 million to buy politicians and get $86 billion in return ,people are sitting in prison for schemes like that.

    So how exactly did the unions protect the workers,they did not they just used them as a means to an end and between them and the politicians squandered their money and forced them onto the public dole in the end.

    No wonder RTW was repealed in Michigan,it’s a very profitable enterprise for the politicians that support it at the cost of the workers and every other taxpayer in the country.

    No wonder they did not care about jobs leaving this country and actually protecting the workers best interests,they knew if they supported enough socialist friendly politicians they would be able to generate revenue and convince them to operate and treat it as a socialist tool in order to push that agenda.

    It’s not the union anymore,it’s the socialist workers party where everybody goes to work and puts into the system and the government pays their pension,no different then in China or Russia.

    The union boss is the party representative between the workers and the state,no different then in China where every business has to have a CCP representative on site.

    Talk about a coup.

    Irregardless of what the unions used to be and how they protected the workers,those days are long gone,they appear to have become a financial tool of the socialist and progressive party’s agenda and a door into what they have become,a socialist workers party tool to generate revenue for those at the top so they can gain power and influence,at the sacrifice of the very workers they are supposed to protect.

    A Trojan horse.

    Last edited by Richard; March-28-23 at 11:33 PM.

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