WSU receives grant to make Detroit into center for Black Studies

[Henry Whalley]

$6M grant to help WSU make Detroit epicenter for Black studies [[freep.com)


This is a big deal for WSU as a research institution.

[Jimaz]

Great news but was "epicenter" the best word they could find for that headline?

[Henry Whalley]

Great news but was "epicenter" the best word they could find for that headline?

Agreed, not the best wording.

[DetroiterOnTheWestCoast]

That certainly wasn’t going to happen in Florida.

[Richard]

That certainly wasn’t going to happen in Florida.

Because we already have a all black collage,so if they want to single themselves out and study they can.

Outside of that the constitution says everybody gets treated equally,and we are already diversified,so if you have a black studies program,in order to be inclusive you also have to create a white studies program,a Latin studies program,an Arab studies program,an Asian studies program,an Eastern European studies program,a Mexican studies program.

If inclusivity is the goal how about including everybody and treating everybody equally instead of taking a particular race and telling them they need to be singled out because of the color of their skin,seems kinda racist to me.

[dtowncitylover]

Outside of that the constitution says everybody gets treated equally,and we are already diversified,so if you have a black studies program,in order to be inclusive you also have to create a white studies program,a Latin studies program,an Arab studies program,an Asian studies program,an Eastern European studies program,a Mexican studies program.

If you would like to give a grant to Wayne for one or all of those studies, no one is stopping you. Many universities in Michigan and in the US, have European, Latin and Hispanic, Arab and Middle Eastern, Asian, and Eastern European and Slavic studies programs. Such a crock response to an innocuous program, but what else do we expect from you?

[1953]

Just a nit picky thing -- the last Census pegged Detroit's Black population at 77.9 percent; both the Freep and the WSU prof need to update their stats.

1953

[Richard]

If you would like to give a grant to Wayne for one or all of those studies, no one is stopping you. Many universities in Michigan and in the US, have European, Latin and Hispanic, Arab and Middle Eastern, Asian, and Eastern European and Slavic studies programs. Such a crock response to an innocuous program, but what else do we expect from you?

Maybe they should start with the basics and teach reading comprehension and the ability to follow posts and not take things out of context in order to suit your agenda.

Sorry my bad that is what it is really about,exploiting others for profit and how else do you keep the cash cow going without categorizing and putting people in groups and acting like they are to dumb to figure it out without you riding in and saving them.

Students are going into debt,while expecting others to pay it off,so they can study everything but something that will provide them a comfortable living when they graduate.

If you are going into international law or business,makes sense to study Asia and multiple other countries you expect to be in close contact with,it’s the day of the internet where you can study for free,why give people the opportunity to go into debt studying something that is not going to prepare them for a future?

Its like the ones going to college and getting a liberal arts degree then complaining about having debt so they cannot get ahead in life.

I was under the understanding the whole reason one went to college was to prepare them with the skills for the future so they did not have to start at the bottom.

But yet here we are with millions of collage graduates that cannot even pay their bills and are coming out loaded with debt and no marketable skills.

If I was going to give a grant it would be in the form of a scholarship for somebody regardless of race and not to support a fad in order to look like you are checking all of the boxes.

How long have all of those universities been around that you mentioned?

NOW they need 20 million dollars in order to become inclusive? What was stopping them before?

There is a collage in Tennessee,been in operation sinse before the civil war,if you were poor,from the south and needed an education they provided it free of charge.

It is and had always been 100% donation and alumni supported,they have been inclusive from day one,they did not jump on the bandwagon in order to raise money,some of the most successful African Americans in this country graduated from that college,it is like that because that is the goal of the college and the whole point in it all.

With the amount of broke college graduates,it’s clear somebody forgot what their mission really is,and as much as you want to spin it to about me,it’s not.

[Henry Whalley]

maybe they should start with the basics...

tldr

[Henry Whalley]

If you would like to give a grant to Wayne for one or all of those studies, no one is stopping you. Many universities in Michigan and in the US, have European, Latin and Hispanic, Arab and Middle Eastern, Asian, and Eastern European and Slavic studies programs. Such a crock response to an innocuous program, but what else do we expect from you?

Agreed, typical crock from a bloviating crackpot.

[Richard]

Agreed, typical crock from a bloviating crackpot.

That’s the problem with society,people that think their crap does not stink act like they are better then everybody else,and the internet has given people a way to hide and say things they would never say to others face.

The electronic version of Dutch courage.

[Sehv313]

If you would like to give a grant to Wayne for one or all of those studies, no one is stopping you. Many universities in Michigan and in the US, have European, Latin and Hispanic, Arab and Middle Eastern, Asian, and Eastern European and Slavic studies programs. Such a crock response to an innocuous program, but what else do we expect from you?

This. People without money/resources have a lot to say, they're really mad at themselves. Disappointed at what a failure of a life they have.

[drjeff]

Because we already have a all black collage,so if they want to single themselves out and study they can.

Outside of that the constitution says everybody gets treated equally,and we are already diversified,so if you have a black studies program,in order to be inclusive you also have to create a white studies program,a Latin studies program,an Arab studies program,an Asian studies program,an Eastern European studies program,a Mexican studies program.

If inclusivity is the goal how about including everybody and treating everybody equally instead of taking a particular race and telling them they need to be singled out because of the color of their skin,seems kinda racist to me.

What the fuck are you talking about? All black "collage?" Wayne State is very diverse and isn't even majority black- it's majority white.


This is a major grant from a foundation that normally gives money to places like Harvard and not to places like Wayne State. Given our position in a majority black city it makes a lot of sense. I was just in a meeting talking about the new faculty hires that can come from this.

[Richard]

What the fuck are you talking about? All black "collage?" Wayne State is very diverse and isn't even majority black- it's majority white.


This is a major grant from a foundation that normally gives money to places like Harvard and not to places like Wayne State. Given our position in a majority black city it makes a lot of sense. I was just in a meeting talking about the new faculty hires that can come from this.

I guess they do not teach reading comprehension there either.

So Wayne state located where a majority African Americans are could not find a way after all of these years not to provide diversity and are now saying with 20 million they can ?

Is it a new university? Just opened yesterday and are now figuring they need to figure out how to include diversity ?

And are they also teaching students that it is okay to use that kind of language in public as a norm?

They were established in 1868 and are just now figuring out they are located in a predominantly back city and that would play a major part in who they educate?

And for 20 million they will now become inclusive to the very target market they should have been doing at least 50 years ago,does that meen without the 20 million a State University will not find away to educate them?

[Henry Whalley]

This is a major grant from a foundation that normally gives money to places like Harvard and not to places like Wayne State. Given our position in a majority black city it makes a lot of sense.

Agreed. IIRC Harvard black studies includes 48 faculty members. The plan for WSU is to hire 30 faculty members and to form a consortium [perhaps not the right word?] with black studies departments at the University of Michigan, Michigan State University, and several other state colleges and universities. I expect that said consortium will compose the pre-eminent black studies organization in the world. And it seems only fitting that it will be centered in Detroit. Also, I hope that the hires will be widely publicized in our local media.

P.S. I'm thrilled about the birth of the Pensole Lewis College of Business and Design. There are 8 billion people on earth who need footwear -- the design, engineering, and marketing of which will be centered in Detroit. PLC will create many middle-class jobs for local talent. It's fitting that rebuilding the middle class should be centered in Detroit.

P.P.S. Richard is best ignored.

[Sehv313]

If inclusivity is the goal how about including everybody and treating everybody equally instead of taking a particular race and telling them they need to be singled out because of the color of their skin,seems kinda racist to me.

You seem kind of racist.

As a WSU graduate and post-graduate alumni I find your comments to be skewed and misinformed.

WSU is NOT an all black college [[11% Black, if that), in fact the only all black Michigan college was Lewis and Lewis colleges has not refused students of different nationalities. I've taken Black Studies courses in 2015 at WSU under the tutelage of Mrs. Melba Boyd and students of all races were included and treated as equally and fairly.

No one forces college students to take classes, that is only up to their own will. If you think a school program is singling out a particular race of superior/inferior pedestals, then maybe you need to learn about the course before speaking lies on it.

[Henry Whalley]

You seem kind of racist.

Richard is a racist. Best to ignore him.

I see the role of Black Studies to be healing racism, but it may take a few generations or more for whites to accept blacks as fully capable human beings. The Richards of the world will never accept that, but most decent people will eventually see it.

[Richard]

Richard is a racist. Best to ignore him.

I see the role of Black Studies to be healing racism, but it may take a few generations or more for whites to accept blacks as fully capable human beings. The Richards of the world will never accept that, but most decent people will eventually see it.

And that is a prime example of conditioning,do not agree with somebody and they are racist.

You keep telling everybody to ignore me,but you keep failing to follow your own advice.

and thats why Florida keeps narratives out of the education,marxists are alive and well.

How exactly do you see it healing racism? The link that you provided highlights a well know educator that says exactly the opposite and it is not ment to heal racism.

If you heal racism how the hell is anybody going to collect their 20 million?

Just ask the heads of BLM how much cash is in pretending to stand up against racism.

Healing racism is one of the easiest ways to make money,pretend you actually stand for something,call everybody that opposes you a racist so people think it is more prevalent then it is and watch how much cash comes in.

For all you know I could be a gay black man that identifies as a woman while converting to a gender neutral,and would prefer in the future when you address me,you have a little respect and address me by my pro nouns.

[Rocket]

You seem kind of racist.

Uh, I think you have that exactly backwards. What Richard said was clearly the exact opposite of racism.

Here, read it again carefully.

Richard quote "If inclusivity is the goal how about including everybody and treating everybody equally instead of taking a particular race and telling them they need to be singled out because of the color of their skin..."

I don't know how one gleans racism out of that. I think you just attacked his character because he didn't perfectly agree with you. You should apologize.



I can't think of any upside of this program [other than more money for professors and administrators], and it may prove harmful to students. First it has the potential for division, and more importantly, it will saddle many with student debt for a degree that has very low income potential.

[renf]

I thought that the only Historically Black College in Michigan, the former
Lewis College, was in the process of merging in some sense with the
former College for Creative Studies.

[Henry Whalley]

I thought that the only Historically Black College in Michigan, the former
Lewis College, was in the process of merging in some sense with the
former College for Creative Studies.

Pensole Lewis College - Welcome to Pensole Lewis College

[Henry Whalley]

Pensole Lewis College - Welcome to Pensole Lewis College

https://www.npr.org/2018/02/16/58661...sneaker-legend

[Henry Whalley]

I thought that the only Historically Black College in Michigan, the former
Lewis College, was in the process of merging in some sense with the
former College for Creative Studies.

Pensole Lewis College of Business and Design Kicks Off a New Era [[hourdetroit.com)

[Zacha341]

Former College for Creative Studies? CCS works with many other educational entities and interests but still operates as a private art college not merged:

https://www.collegeforcreativestudies.edu/

https://www.collegeforcreativestudie...uate-programs/

Here's the new HBC here in the D, called Pensole Lewis College:

https://pensolelewiscollege.com/

I thought that the only Historically Black College in Michigan, the former
Lewis College, was in the process of merging in some sense with the
former College for Creative Studies.

[Richard]

I just find it ironic that a predominately African American city,that has been predominantly African American for decades is now saying for 20 million dollars we can now find a way to make them inclusive.