Detroit/ Michigan November 8th 2022 Election Results/ News...

[Jimaz]

Maliciousness inevitably breeds contempt, regardless its target.

Sink pitons as you climb.

[oladub]

Who do you think actually CHOOSES to abort a full term "baby"? Nobody chooses to do so just because at 9 months they decide "Nah, I changed my mind; I'm going to get rid of this thing I've carried for 9 months, bought clothes for, design and furnished a nursery and chosen a name for". The reasons for late term abortion almost always comes down to some sort of health reason and the suggestion of a medical professional. Some are premature rupture of membranes and infection, preeclampsia, placental abruption, and placenta accreta[[deep attachment to the the uterine wall which can cause the mother to bleed out). Other things are profound brain damage to the child, missing organs in the child that would cause death very shortly after birth. There are others. This is never a light decision or a decision any woman would make after carrying a child to term or nearly to term. It's all fear mongering and shaming

You're right. I'll rephrase my question to accommodate your "almost always" belief. "Does Michigan's passage of Proposition 3 allow the abortion of full term [viable tissue masses]?" Calling it something else isn't going to change anything. Either there were provisions in Proposition 3 or Roe to protect potentially healthy full term babies or there weren't.

[royce]

Did I miss the transportation proposal on the Detroit ballot, or was it only for cities outside of Detroit?

[jcole]

Have you tried looking it up? The ballot language is out there and it's not anyone's responsibility than yours to find it if you are truly interested and not just trying to start a controversy on here.Google is your buddy.

You're right. I'll rephrase my question to accommodate your "almost always" belief. "Does Michigan's passage of Proposition 3 allow the abortion of full term [viable tissue masses]?" Calling it something else isn't going to change anything. Either there were provisions in Proposition 3 or Roe to protect potentially healthy full term babies or there weren't.

[jcole]

The one in Oakland County passed and I think the Wayne county one did also. I have no clue about Macomb.

Did I miss the transportation proposal on the Detroit ballot, or was it only for cities outside of Detroit?

[Vic01]

Does Michigan's passage of Proposition 3 allow the abortion of full term babies?

Oladub, Only if "medically necessary..." and/or as allowed by State of Michigan laws in place at that time, which can be revised over the years.

The links might further answer your question
https://ballotpedia.org/Michigan_Pro...om_Initiative_[[2022)

https://crcmich.org/PUBLICAT/2020s/2...ion_rights.pdf

[oladub]

Vic01, Thanks for the answer. Full term abortions "only if medically necessary" with caveats sounds reasonable. My advisory ballot in Madison WI only eliminated an existing and very restrictive law and allowed abortions for any reason and timeframe in its place. I' glad to see that proposition 3, according to the information you provided, has some limit as Roe did.

[Danny]

Beautiful state, but two younger cousins purposely left 2019. Young women set to start their lives changed their minds per how bad things are now in some cities at the social and moral level, etc--as the economy worsens

Heck even actor Mark Wahlberg stepped off!

Mark Wahlberg left California for Nevada to give his kids 'a better life'

Wahlburg did not like the blue tide of Cali.

[Henry Whalley]

"Does Michigan's passage of Proposition 3 allow the abortion of full term [viable tissue masses]?"

Abortion is allowed until and unless Herschel Walker's check bounces.

[Richard]

Interesting how in a republic the call was sent out how democracy was being destroyed,weather one agrees with it or not,the small part of democracy that is actually used in this country worked as it should when it was stricken from the constitutional role and given to the people to decide as intended.

What it even more interesting is it is being touted as what drove people to the polls l,over and above the state of the economy,which is effecting everybody on a daily biases in a highly negative way.

But yet it will never effect 98% of the population in anyway,in their entire lifetime and is based on what may or may not happen verses what is happening.

I guess if one is homeless it is some comfort that if they get pregnant in the process in some states it will be convenient to just pop in somewhere and have it ripped out,like it’s just another day.

[stasu1213]

I would like to take a moment to congratulate Michiganders on an election that appears to offer many positive outcomes.

The [[state) constitutional amendment to protect reproductive rights has passed;

Also of note, Oakland County has seemingly endorsed regional transit and a millage in support there of....

The national results remain in flux a bit longer, but with any luck Congress won't be controlled by election deniers in the next session.

I wonder if SMART will resume it busses that went from Detroit to Farmington Hills and also the one that went to Oakland Mall

[Zacha341]

Hah! Walker would've been wiser to admit that at least one of those women coming forth spoke the truth.

If he later regretted his actions that could've been his position against abortion now. There are those who do, after learning more facts about abortion and their OWN experience with it [including former abortion service providers, men who paid for and pushed women into abortion, and even doctors who performed abortion]. A specific example is MLK niece:

Martin Luther King Jr’s Niece Had Two Abortions, But God Changed Her and Now She’s Pro-Life

Can a person NOT change their position? Why not?

Beyond this Walker was NOT a strong candidate for the position. Donald Trump endorsed him. I would not have for broader reasons. Warnock problematic to IMO. They now go to a run off vote.

Abortion is allowed until and unless Herschel Walker's check bounces.

[jcole]

Y'all DO know that for 98% of the people who voted for it that it's not just about abortion, right? It's about the right of women to do with their bodies what they want to, just like men get to do. I'm so far past the age when I would need/want an abortion that it wouldn't have mattered to me if that's all it was about.

Interesting how in a republic the call was sent out how democracy was being destroyed,weather one agrees with it or not,the small part of democracy that is actually used in this country worked as it should when it was stricken from the constitutional role and given to the people to decide as intended.

What it even more interesting is it is being touted as what drove people to the polls l,over and above the state of the economy,which is effecting everybody on a daily biases in a highly negative way.

But yet it will never effect 98% of the population in anyway,in their entire lifetime and is based on what may or may not happen verses what is happening.

I guess if one is homeless it is some comfort that if they get pregnant in the process in some states it will be convenient to just pop in somewhere and have it ripped out,like it’s just another day.

[Richard]

Y'all DO know that for 98% of the people who voted for it that it's not just about abortion, right? It's about the right of women to do with their bodies what they want to, just like men get to do. I'm so far past the age when I would need/want an abortion that it wouldn't have mattered to me if that's all it was about.

I understand that,I was more so referring to when it was dropped from the constitutional protection and the cry became democracy is dead.

The constitution reads every citizen is equal regardless of gender,or color,so you cannot put a constitutionally protected right for a singled out group.

We are a republic and not a democracy but the constitution allows for the people to act in a democratic way by giving the power directly to the people at the state level.

So the system worked as designed,it was removed from the federal level and regulated to the state level so the people could decide in a democratic way.

The federal government cannot see us as individuals,they have to see us as one group according to the constitution.

Our founding fathers did not invent a form of government as a Republic.

It was invented in Venice Italy and in place for centuries before,tried and tested,our founding fathers copied that with a few tweaks with the whole concept of the voice belongs to the people and not the government.

It does not matter if I agree with it or not personally,it matters what the majority agree with in the democratic process at the state levels.

So SCOTUS did what they were supposed to do,gave the power back to the people to decide.

If people actually dropped all of this democracy crap we would not be having all of this drama,in a republic and under the constitution,I am not a man and you are not a woman,I am not white and you are not black,in a republic we are all citizens to be treated equally at the federal level.

People get confused in thinking we are a democracy,we are a republic and under a republic No government is our rulers,they are merely the vessel’s that collect our wishes as a majority and implement them,the whole concept of a republic is to give the voice to the people,it’s actually,when applied correctly,better then a democracy because it does not allow a few to rule the majority.

[jcole]

I am aware that we are a Democratic Republic; there are very few pure Democracies in the world.

I understand that,I was more so referring to when it was dropped from the constitutional protection and the cry became democracy is dead.

The constitution reads every citizen is equal regardless of gender,or color,so you cannot put a constitutionally protected right for a singled out group.

We are a republic and not a democracy but the constitution allows for the people to act in a democratic way by giving the power directly to the people at the state level.

So the system worked as designed,it was removed from the federal level and regulated to the state level so the people could decide in a democratic way.

The federal government cannot see us as individuals,they have to see us as one group according to the constitution.

Our founding fathers did not invent a form of government as a Republic.

It was invented in Venice Italy and in place for centuries before,tried and tested,our founding fathers copied that with a few tweaks with the whole concept of the voice belongs to the people and not the government.

It does not matter if I agree with it or not personally,it matters what the majority agree with in the democratic process at the state levels.

So SCOTUS did what they were supposed to do,gave the power back to the people to decide.

If people actually dropped all of this democracy crap we would not be having all of this drama,in a republic and under the constitution,I am not a man and you are not a woman,I am not white and you are not black,in a republic we are all citizens to be treated equally at the federal level.

People get confused in thinking we are a democracy,we are a republic and under a republic No government is our rulers,they are merely the vessel’s that collect our wishes as a majority and implement them,the whole concept of a republic is to give the voice to the people,it’s actually,when applied correctly,better then a democracy because it does not allow a few to rule the majority.

[Rocket]

I am aware that we are a Democratic Republic; there are very few pure Democracies in the world.

I wasn't aware of any in our lifetime. Pres Biden refers to us and a lot of other countries as Democracies. I'd like to ask him what ones he's referring to. Canada and Brittan are Constitutional Monarchies for example.

Democracies generally fail in a year or so, which is why they are considered about the worst form of government ever devised, and why our founding fathers made sure not to form one.

I was watching some youtube video a while back where the speaker was wondering out loud why all the media and politicians constantly lie about us being a democracy. The speaker then supposed that perhaps it was to legitimize the Democrat party? Because you obviously need Democrats to run a democracy right? Not sure if he was totally serious.

In a Republic, the government has NO powers at all, except the very few specific powers we write down for them in a list. All other powers are left to the states. The 10th amendment further locks that down.

[401don]

I wasn't aware of any in our lifetime. Pres Biden refers to us and a lot of other countries as Democracies. I'd like to ask him what ones he's referring to. Canada and Brittan are Constitutional Monarchies for example.

Democracies generally fail in a year or so, which is why they are considered about the worst form of government ever devised, and why our founding fathers made sure not to form one.

I was watching some youtube video a while back where the speaker was wondering out loud why all the media and politicians constantly lie about us being a democracy. The speaker then supposed that perhaps it was to legitimize the Democrat party? Because you obviously need Democrats to run a democracy right? Not sure if he was totally serious.

In a Republic, the government has NO powers at all, except the very few specific powers we write down for them in a list. All other powers are left to the states. The 10th amendment further locks that down.

Democracy is a lot closer to democracy than communism to actual communism that's for sure. When the people vote in a democracy the party in power can change and will leave peacefully [[of course a lot of loonies in the U.S. would like to change that).

[Zacha341]

I'd like to see one of those ask 'person-on-the-street' reports on what people think the word Democracy means! Contextual to the felt-need for assurance of who loves/ affirms who, or who's the embodiment of evil [as we're told]? We're seeing more low-information, low-resolution thinking - preferred.

Example: talking politics related to Detroit etc. I was almost surprised to see some young people believing that the very 'name' of the Democratic party - derivative of the word Democrat - defines the rightness of the party so aligned to Democracy. Incredible. Us over here, them there. How neat - tidy.

Being black, over time, I've learned to watch/ monitor results and policies, and to do so with less surprise [why'd they do that? They said they would...?]. Especially as the pendulum swings between soft bigotry/ racism [and its 'steering' of groups] vs. direct bigotry/ racism over there!

[Richard]

Democracy is a lot closer to democracy than communism to actual communism that's for sure. When the people vote in a democracy the party in power can change and will leave peacefully [[of course a lot of loonies in the U.S. would like to change that).

It depends on how easily one is manipulated into believing that one is their enemy in order to create divisions.

There are no loonies in America that can change that because the constitution is the finial rule,if what happened as people claim it actually happened,under the constitution it would have been treasonous,but yet nobody leveled that charge,they tried everything thing in the book to impeach the guy,you do not figure if what he actually did was treasonous they would not have jumped all over it as the finial nail in the coffin ?

Latin America has spent decades flipping back and forth from a democratic rule to a socialist rule,a democracy holds no guarantees as to the form of government,a republic does.

The other countries that were a democracy also had a constitution that protected them but all the current leader had to do was alter the constitution and give himself ultimate power.

You cannot do that under a republic.

People get to focused on Washington,what really matters is the choices they make at the city and state level,nobody in Detroit could care less who is president,it’s the local choices that effect their daily circumstances,it matters far more then the suit in the White House.

Thats where the practice of democracy comes into play,locally electing representatives that implement your combined wishes.

People get to caught up and are complacent when they act like the mayor or district representatives are their boss,they are not they work for you the citizen.They are there because you said they could be,just as you can tell them to leave.

Under a republic you have the right as a citizen to question anything and everything government related without recourse.Elections,decisions policy makers create,and you have the right to oppose.

Thats why we have commies and socialists running around willy nilly in this country,because as citizens they are also protected under the constitution and have that right,I may disagree with it but I cannot change it.

[One Shot]

Orange Julius is a drag on GOP candidates. I can't wait till Satan drags him down to hell.

People like you make me sick. You still wanna call names and blame him for everything that’s going on right now. What did he do to ruin this country? under his leadership everything thrived and since you’re corrupt communist party, took over the country went straight down. We finally had somebody that supported the people and he was vilified. They witnessed this, and it scared the hell out of them. Therefore they had to brainwash you into thinking he was evil. The dumb are really gullible.

[Gistok]

If you want to sit at the table with the adults, everyone needs to abide by Lowell's rules for DYES.

[Zacha341]

Who won seats in the Detroit school board election...

[Rocket]

Who won seats in the Detroit school board election...

^ Wow, that article says that DPSCD says that 79% of "students" were chronically absent?

Where are the parents?

This isn't a schooling issue, this is a parenting [or complete lack thereof] issue.

[Henry Whalley]

We're starting to see more some low-information, low-resolution thinking.

In other words, American thinking?

[Zacha341]

^^^ I edited a typo out of that that last sentence:

"We're seeing more low-information, low-resolution thinking - preferred."

But yes. Further, in our unyielding patterns of supremacy [yet present in the progressive movement] too many 'think' the world, other nations are falling in line. Or that our new priorities and values are desired. They are not always. The same nations/ peoples done with American historical imperialism ain't too happy about Woke supremacy either [as assumed]

I think many Detroiter's will have some second-thoughts as policies roll out over the next few years. Especially applied to their children.