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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    The guy walked up and shot two of the school police before entering the building.
    This happened at the Uvalde shooting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maof View Post
    This happened at the Uvalde shooting?
    But CNN reporter Natasha Bertrand tweeted on Tuesday night: "Sgt. Erick Estrada of the Texas Dept of Public Safety tells @andersoncooper the shooter crashed his car near the school, got out with a gun and wearing body armor, was engaged by law enforcement, but made his way into the school anyway and went classroom to classroom shooting."

    https://www.newsweek.com/officers-en...ooting-1709870

    Some of those officers were shot," Olivarez continued. "So at that point they began breaking windows around the school trying to evacuate children, teachers, anybody they could, trying to get them out of that building."

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/texas-sch...salvador-ramos

    The mass shooter then fired at a school district security officer, ran inside the elementary school and shot at two arriving Uvalde police officers outside the building, according to a Texas Department of Public Safety spokesperson, who added that all three officers were injured.

    https://nypost.com/2022/05/25/police...killing-spree/


    What it looks like is they knew he was on his way and multiple officers were headed that way and got there as soon as he did and he shot his way in.

    It’s a small town with 11,000 residents? Interesting how they have an entire school police force.

    The break down seems to be in communications,people calling 911 and 911 dispatch unable to communicate at the beginning with officers at the scene.

    There was another report that the officer in charge did not qualify for a radio that connected the regular police with the school police.

    There are also reports that it was border patrol agents that breached the school organized,they would have had communications where they could have begun an organized room to room search.

    There seems to be some confusion as to the definition of “police” when it comes to the school “police” force as to what their role is as actual “police” .

    So there are multiple agencies on scene at the same time but none of them with the ability to communicate with each other in order to become organized in a timely manner.

    What it looks like is with LEO as a whole needs to have a dedicated communication channel where in an emergency it would tie them all together because,as it stands they all have different radio systems that operate on different frequencies.

    I am thinking that schools can implement an emergency lockdown system,where like in this case,the officer radios the main office and push a button that automatically locks every classroom door,the shooter would have been denied entry to any classroom and as he spent time looking for random victims it would have bought time for a response.

    But there are also reports that LEO spent time finding somebody with a key in order to excess parts of the school that had locked doors.

    But until it is investigated and the timeline that spells out the chain of events, it is hard to even come up with a preventative solution,which is going to be difficult because every school and situation is going to be unique on its own.

    Everytime something happens it turns into a gun debate,when 80% of children deaths surround suicide with a gun,the first thing they do is hold an emergency House hearing in order to establish new gun laws and nothing about the insane suicide rate.

    To me anyways it continues to be about the gun and little to do with the motivation behind the use of it as a means to an end.
    Last edited by Richard; June-09-22 at 08:29 AM.

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