Lock him up!

**Cincinnati_Kid** · January-24-21, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by EastsideAl

Oh, and I know what's coming next, "Whatabout black lives matter blather blather blather"...

You know what black lives matter didn't do? They didn't attempt to violently overthrow democratic government in the U.S., and they didn't threaten the lives of congressional representatives or the Vice President of the United States for just doing their jobs under the law.

And they didn't do this:
https://www.fox2detroit.com/video/892514

I have no idea how any actually patriotic American can excuse or justify this [[but I'm sure some who claim to be such will try).

Hockey stick revolutionary Mike Foy is apparently yet another former member of our armed forces who decided to ignore the oath they made when entering the service and to become a terrorist against the U.S. and its Constitution.

Truth spoken here. What Trump's hooligans did, pales in comparison.

**Richard** · January-24-21, 03:43 PM

BLMs funding arm,is run by a radical Marxist that tried to blow up the White House and was pardoned by a democrat president.

I guess Adler figured that kind of training and willingness to go the extra mile would become useful some day,2020 was the year he cashed that chip in.

So the democrats fully embraced the burning and looting of cities and are responsible for over 2000 police officers being injured or killed in the process.

So you guys are now here justifying the Destruction of cities across the country,burning,looting,killing and injuring police in the process.

All the time being encouraged and the bail being funded by the democrat leaders.

The violence at the capital building is a direct result of an entire summer of lawlessness brought on with the encouragement of the democrat party.

You guys justify destroying the country,just do not touch the capital building.

That building lost its meaning last summer when it’s representatives started representing their own best interests verses the public’s.

At that time it was just another government building,like all the others that have been under attack all summer long,with the blessings of the democrat party.

Who gave the democrats the sole discretion to burn buildings of choice ?

If that is truly the house of the people,how come the democrats are acting like it is their own little fiefdom and private house?

325 million citizens in this country,that is not the democrats little private building.

**Jimaz** · January-26-21, 02:00 PM

The Pardons Are Defective, Part 1

The Pardons Are Defective, Part 2

**Zacha341** · January-26-21, 03:28 PM

^ Uh, oh! Best not tell Kilpatrick that yet. His suitcases were packed. Perhap he best exile on some small non-US island.

**bust** · January-26-21, 05:15 PM

So much better, do not let her
Plunder Detroit, again.

**bust** · January-26-21, 05:17 PM

The tragedy of
Disgraced former Mayor Kilpatrick.

Unoriginal his sin:
His loved ones, lovers
Share the blame.

Corrupt role models:
Brazen, venal,
Family are the same.

Don't know better
A go getter
Never could be wrong.

Despite the fouls,
Disavowals
Never in his song.

Same excuses,
Blame the claim.

Con artists
Always play that game.

**Jimaz** · January-27-21, 11:49 PM

The Coup at The DOJ

**Jimaz** · January-30-21, 04:34 PM

'Blame Trump' defense emerges among Capitol riot suspects

CNN legal analyst Paul Callan says that he expects more people arrested for participating in the deadly riot at the US Capitol to employ a "blame Trump" defense to limit bail or jail time, but says that it likely won't work.

Maybe that could be called "The devil made me do it" defense.

**Dumpling** · January-30-21, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by Richard

So the democrats fully embraced the burning and looting of cities and are responsible for over 2000 police officers being injured or killed in the process.

So you guys are now here justifying the Destruction of cities across the country,burning,looting,killing and injuring police in the process.

This is a stretch. I went looking for where there was information
about the 2,000 police officers being injured or killed. [[To be sure
theirs is a nearly impossible task and they need to remain fully
funded in my own opinion.) Still it is better to have a clear
picture of the harm wreaked by the protesters on the police.
Same as for the Capitol protesters, same for the BLM protesters,
right?

So Fox News had this item:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/police-ch...-injured-riots

So yes. 2,000 police officers WERE injured. But then, notice the
number of protests that the police were present at...8,700...so
it works out to one police officer injury per four protests. So
the overall picture here is of one police officer injured at some
protest and then no police officers injured at the next three
protests that happened. That sounds mostly peaceful!

So far as police officer deaths as a consequence of BLM protests,
Politifact has this fact-checking article.

https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...nnection-prot/

The fact checkers found that there WAS very definitely one
police officer who was killed by protesters. There were one
or two maybes. There were police officers killed in other
situations that were probably unfairly linked to the protests
by using the logic that the police had to watch over the
protesters, so that meant the police were overextended
on their regular beats.

**Richard** · January-30-21, 08:23 PM

More than 350 NYPD officers were injured

over the course of nearly two full weeks of citywide protests over the death of George Floyd

in Minneapolis, NYPD First Deputy Commissioner Ben Tucker told the city council this week.

Three people -- including one woman authorities say has an extensive criminal history -- have been arrested on federal charges after a pair of NYPD vehicles were firebombed during this weekend's protests.

Samantha Shader, 27, of Catskill, New York, was accused of chucking a Molotov cocktail at an NYPD vehicle that was occupied by four police officers. When she was being cuffed, federal prosecutors say that she bit one of the officer's leg.

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/loca...death/2455285/

Yes 400 police officers injured and people arrested for throwing Molotov cocktails at occupied police cars is justified because most protests were peaceful?

https://tnc.news/2020/06/10/a-compre...d-in-us-riots/

In my post I specified the amount of police killed and injured ,the reply’s have been justifying that violence by trying to correct me on how many were kille

https://tnc.news/2020/06/10/a-comprehensive-list-of-police-officers-injured-or-killed-in-us-riots/

one more time, I clearly posted the number of police killed or injured during the summer riots,now you guys have taken upon yourselves to correct me about how many were killed,justifying the violence by saying it was mostly peaceful protests.

I simply posted the number of police officers killed or injured during the summer riots.

I can type slower if necessary.

I can dig up the thread about Charlottesville where somebody from the right ran over a protester and you guys went ballistic,now your party injured over 400 police in less then 2 weeks of protests in one city alone ,and you call it mostly peaceful.

Where have we heard those words before?

**Dumpling** · January-31-21, 10:14 AM

If one checks into the tnc news page "comprehensive list
of police officers injured or killed in us riots" one needs to
see something like, there was a BLM or very similar march.
Then some of those marchers would [[like the Capitol protesters)
take makeshift weapons of some kind and directly harm
the responding police officers. This WOULD include hitting
them with cars, causing serious injuries.

So now let's take a close look at one case of a "police officer
injured in us riot".

**Dumpling** · January-31-21, 10:22 AM

Springfield, Missouri. Officer Priebe. Third from the bottom
of the tnc news list WHICH IS actually factual news but some
of it is misrepresented.

After the incident, Officer Priebe sued the man who ran into
him with an SUV.

https://www.news-leader.com/story/ne...er/3214046001/

This perp's name is Jon Taylor Routh. It appears that he has
some mental disorder. He was not straight up a Black Lives
Matter protester that went amok and attacked a police escort
for that protest. What did he do then if he did not attend a
BLM protest?

Here's what there is on him:

https://www.ozarksfirst.com/top-stor...military-dude/

"CM reported vandalism to her 2016 Equinox"

"[The perp] allegedly defecat[ed] on a woman's car and drew
lewd pictures with the material".

**Dumpling** · January-31-21, 10:34 AM

So here is why I think you might be spreading disinformation.

You did not create this disinformation but you are spreading it,
and the way not to do that is to carefully fact check items for
accuracy.

For example, to be accurate in this one case:

The officer's injuries, serious as they were, were NOT directly
caused by someone protesting in a Black Lives Matter march,
or even by follow-on rioting or looting by individuals taking
advantage of such a march.

This officer therefore should NOT be included in a list titled
"police officer injured in us riot".

Including this officer in the list bulks up the list of alleged
incidents resulting from protests or riots so that credulous
individuals that don't have the wherewithal to fact check
things well will believe things they really shouldn't. I don't
know if you are such a person, but if you fact check things
carefully that would be good.

**Richard** · January-31-21, 11:02 PM

Police casualties from "peaceful protests." You know, riots. o. of Casualties and injured	Date	Location	News Source:
12	May 30	Las Vegas, NV riots	News 3 LV
13	May 30	Philadelphia, PA protests	CBS Local
9	May 30	Sacramento, CA protests	ABC 10
1	May 30	Atlanta, GA officer run over by vehicle during riot	AJC
21	May 31	Salt Lake City, UT	KSTLV
60	May 31	Washington, D.C. - 60+ Secret Service Agents injured	CNN
51	May 31	Washington, D.C. - additional 51 Park Police were also injured	WaPo
8	May 31	Richland County, SC - 6 officers, 2 firefighters	WLTX
4	May 31	Prince William, VA	Prince William Times
2	May 31	Harrisburg, PA	Penn Live
4	June 1	St. Louis, MO - officers shot during riots	KMOV
3	June 1	Champaign, IL	News20
3	June 1	Oak Lawn, IL	Patch
132	June 1	Chicago, IL	CBS Local
2	June 1	Oakland, CA - one officer injured, one killed [[Patrick Underwood)	ABC 7
2	June 1	Santa Ana, CA	OC Register
1	June 2	St. Louis, MO - retired police captain David Dorn shot and killed	STL Today
3	June 2	Davenport, Iowa	WQAD
8	June 2	Rhode Island [[8-10 officers injured)	Providence Journal
3	June 2	Lynchburg, VA	WSET
2	June 3	Oakdale, CA	KCRA
11	June 4	Pittsburgh, PN	WTAE
4	July 5	Portland, OR	KTVZ
3	July 5	Hartford, CT	NBC CT
1	July 10	Salt Lake City, UT	FOX 13
21	July 11	Minneapolis, MN	CBS Local
350	July 11	New York, NY	NBC NY
2	July 11	Detroit, MI	Detroit News
3	July 17	New York, NY	CNN
75	July 19	Denver, CO	KDVR
49	July 20	Chicago, IL	NBC Chicago
59	July 25	Seattle, WA	KIRO 7
4	July 26	Los Angeles, CA	ABC 7

We'll update this chart as riots continue.

People killed by "peaceful protesters." You know. Rioters.

Deaths	Date	Details	News Source:
1	May 27	Calvin Horton Jr. dies after being shot at a pawn shop that was being looted in Minneapolis.	CBS Local
1	May 28	Unknown victim found burned to death in wreckage of building torched during Minneapolis riots.	Star Tribune
1	May 29	Man fatally shot during protests in Detroit.	CNN
2	May 31	Chris Beatty [[38) and Dorian Murrell [[18) killed in Indianapolis.	FREEP
1	May 31	Marvin Francois killed in Kansas City picking up son from protests.	Kansas City
1	May 31	John Tiggs shot in Chicago during looting.	Chicago Sun Times
1	May 31	Myqwon Blanchard fatally shot by a gunman during the looting of the North Riverside Park Mall in Riverside, Illinois.	Fox Chicago
1	June 1	Italia Marie Kelly shot by protesters in Davenport Iowa.	Des Moines Register
2	June 1	Victor Cazares and Jose Gutierrez killed by looters in Chicago.	Chicago Sun Times
1	June 2	Protester kills himself trying to explode an ATM machine.	CBS Local
1	June 2	David Dorn shot and killed by rioters.	CNN
1	June 20	19-year-old shot by CHOP's self-proclaimed security forces.	ABC News
1	June 27	Photographer killed after shooting broke out at a BLM protest in Louisville, KY.	DW.com
1	June 29	16-year-old shot dead in CHOP.	Q13 Fox
1	July 5	Jessica Doty Whitaker is accosted by BLM supporters, says "All Lives Matter," and is shot and killed by them.	The Sun

We'll update this table as "peaceful protests" continue.

There you go,I know you are really a good person,so all of those instances are provided with a link,a majority of the left socialist party’s favored news sources.

You know like CNN,ABC,CBS,NYT

Even though I have already proven that they are the intentional fake and false information,you guys are easy so there links are there for you to use as fact.

Nice going on the find one case and build a mansion out of it,but it did happen during the summer of violence perpetrated by the radical arm of the socialist democrat party.

You are aware still every night of the week those protests are still happening?

Of course not,the state run newspaper only reports on what they want you to see and now it is all unicorns and rainbows.

This is the violence you guys and your leaders have been approving of and condoning and funding all summer long.

Final national murder update of 2020:Murder up 36.7% in 57 agencies with data through at least September [[though most have data through November). Murder up in 51 of 57, 37 of 58 agencies reporting murder up more than 30%.

Last year, an alarming increase in homicides left communities — often in lockdown — reeling as officials searched for answers. That was evident at lots of news conferences as police officials and mayors in Chicago, Los Angeles and New York City rolled out dire news.
At the end of 2020, Chicago police reported more than 750 murders, a jump of more than 50% compared with 2019. By mid-December, Los Angeles saw a 30% increase over the previous year with 322 homicides. There were 437 homicides in New York City by Dec. 20, nearly 40% more than the previous year.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=1757262194

Notice the common trend in all of that ?

Because the socialist democrat party has supporters in power and in forums that justify the violence and raise their bail money for them,their controlled cities have the largest murder rates in the country.

And they just for the life of themselves cannot figure out why everybody is fleeing those cities,but sure are quick to blame it on everybody else.

Now go down the list of cities that had the most injured LEO and compare it to the list of the cities with the highest murder increases,even while during lockdown.

That is just murder rates,it does not include the free for all rape,burglary,strong arm robbery etc.

Notice the correlation?

I do fact check,and I do not write sources off simply based on personal feelings,I look at content and not cherry pick one case and use that as a base of discussion.

If you are thinking my links were right wing propaganda,then once again I have posted left wing propaganda news sources just for you guys.

Que the attack Richard in 1 2 3 .........

Because we do not want to know the truth and personal attacks are the only way we can debate the facts.

The violence of the democrat party makes the right wing radicals look like pussies,when was the last time anybody on the right spent the night burning and looting cities?

When in history has the Republican Party destroyed cities by burning them to the ground in the name of social justice?

And now your wakjob representatives are floating drone strikes on US soil against US citizens?

If we are going down the domestic terrorism road,what exactly do you call a party that loots and burns cities and occupied land in those cities claiming it was their sovereign land?

O I forgot,they were just misguided kids having fun,while terrorizing entire cities in the process.

The democrats sold the country out and their fellow citizens,not because there was a man in there that was throwing the country under the bus,it was because they simply hated him.

You do not even realize what you have really given up yet,you traded democracy in exchange for spite.

You know what happens next out of no choice?

With the murder rate spiraling out of control in the democrat cities?

People are going to be fleeing those cities in mass to escape the violence,then the cities will have no choice but to crack down by any means necessary,that will be the time when it will come back on you and you will become the target of the animal you created.

History repeats itself.

The democrats have you thinking that a tiny percentage on right wing radicals are the domestic terrorists,while they support and control the cities with the largest murder rates in the country,nothing like a good old distraction of a right winger to take the focus off of your own failures.

**Dumpling** · February-01-21, 03:20 PM

There have been fifteen million plus Black Lives Matter
protesters over the last year. It has been quite the
phenomenon to have this many marchers and many
millions more posting affirmative Black Lives Matter
signs on their lawns, probably more signs than for
either presidential candidate.

https://www.radcliffe.harvard.edu/ne...research-finds

Assembling, peaceably protesting and petitioning for
redress of grievances is in the First Amendment to the
Constitution of the United States. Here is an overview of that:

https://www.mtsu.edu/first-amendment...atter-protests

Nonetheless untoward and horrific events have occurred
in conjunction with these protests. I recall a incident
in which what was probably a crime syndicate took
advantage of a protest in Chicago and rented U-Hauls
to loot stores at that time. Mayor Lori Lightfoot
was appalled. The crime syndicate and the protesters
and the Mayor in this case are not all one and the same.

https://time.com/5878688/chicago-may...tfoot-looting/

The disinformation you are attempting to spread is the
conflation of peaceable protesters, Democratic mayors,
and criminals and disturbed individuals who commit
looting and violence. There are no sane protesters or
Democratic mayors embracing the burning and looting
of their cities or injuries to members of their cities' police
forces.

**Gistok** · February-01-21, 05:44 PM

^^ Dumpling... you and I often disagree on this Forum, but in this instance, I couldn't have said it better myself.

**Dumpling** · February-01-21, 06:24 PM

Thank you, Gistok, but I just checked the post and it appears
that I omitted some things so there is actually some confusion
though its intended meaning is pretty clear. So going back in
and editing it...

...done, and credit should go to the authors of the source
materials too.

**Honky Tonk** · February-01-21, 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by Richard

Police casualties from "peaceful protests." You know, riots. o. of Casualties and injured	Date	Location	News Source:
12	May 30	Las Vegas, NV riots	News 3 LV
13	May 30	Philadelphia, PA protests	CBS Local
9	May 30	Sacramento, CA protests	ABC 10
1	May 30	Atlanta, GA officer run over by vehicle during riot	AJC
21	May 31	Salt Lake City, UT	KSTLV
60	May 31	Washington, D.C. - 60+ Secret Service Agents injured	CNN
51	May 31	Washington, D.C. - additional 51 Park Police were also injured	WaPo
8	May 31	Richland County, SC - 6 officers, 2 firefighters	WLTX
4	May 31	Prince William, VA	Prince William Times
2	May 31	Harrisburg, PA	Penn Live
4	June 1	St. Louis, MO - officers shot during riots	KMOV
3	June 1	Champaign, IL	News20
3	June 1	Oak Lawn, IL	Patch
132	June 1	Chicago, IL	CBS Local
2	June 1	Oakland, CA - one officer injured, one killed [[Patrick Underwood)	ABC 7
2	June 1	Santa Ana, CA	OC Register
1	June 2	St. Louis, MO - retired police captain David Dorn shot and killed	STL Today
3	June 2	Davenport, Iowa	WQAD
8	June 2	Rhode Island [[8-10 officers injured)	Providence Journal
3	June 2	Lynchburg, VA	WSET
2	June 3	Oakdale, CA	KCRA
11	June 4	Pittsburgh, PN	WTAE
4	July 5	Portland, OR	KTVZ
3	July 5	Hartford, CT	NBC CT
1	July 10	Salt Lake City, UT	FOX 13
21	July 11	Minneapolis, MN	CBS Local
350	July 11	New York, NY	NBC NY
2	July 11	Detroit, MI	Detroit News
3	July 17	New York, NY	CNN
75	July 19	Denver, CO	KDVR
49	July 20	Chicago, IL	NBC Chicago
59	July 25	Seattle, WA	KIRO 7
4	July 26	Los Angeles, CA	ABC 7

We'll update this chart as riots continue.

People killed by "peaceful protesters." You know. Rioters.

Deaths	Date	Details	News Source:
1	May 27	Calvin Horton Jr. dies after being shot at a pawn shop that was being looted in Minneapolis.	CBS Local
1	May 28	Unknown victim found burned to death in wreckage of building torched during Minneapolis riots.	Star Tribune
1	May 29	Man fatally shot during protests in Detroit.	CNN
2	May 31	Chris Beatty [[38) and Dorian Murrell [[18) killed in Indianapolis.	FREEP
1	May 31	Marvin Francois killed in Kansas City picking up son from protests.	Kansas City
1	May 31	John Tiggs shot in Chicago during looting.	Chicago Sun Times
1	May 31	Myqwon Blanchard fatally shot by a gunman during the looting of the North Riverside Park Mall in Riverside, Illinois.	Fox Chicago
1	June 1	Italia Marie Kelly shot by protesters in Davenport Iowa.	Des Moines Register
2	June 1	Victor Cazares and Jose Gutierrez killed by looters in Chicago.	Chicago Sun Times
1	June 2	Protester kills himself trying to explode an ATM machine.	CBS Local
1	June 2	David Dorn shot and killed by rioters.	CNN
1	June 20	19-year-old shot by CHOP's self-proclaimed security forces.	ABC News
1	June 27	Photographer killed after shooting broke out at a BLM protest in Louisville, KY.	DW.com
1	June 29	16-year-old shot dead in CHOP.	Q13 Fox
1	July 5	Jessica Doty Whitaker is accosted by BLM supporters, says "All Lives Matter," and is shot and killed by them.	The Sun

We'll update this table as "peaceful protests" continue.

There you go,I know you are really a good person,so all of those instances are provided with a link,a majority of the left socialist party’s favored news sources.

You know like CNN,ABC,CBS,NYT

Even though I have already proven that they are the intentional fake and false information,you guys are easy so there links are there for you to use as fact.

Nice going on the find one case and build a mansion out of it,but it did happen during the summer of violence perpetrated by the radical arm of the socialist democrat party.

You are aware still every night of the week those protests are still happening?

Of course not,the state run newspaper only reports on what they want you to see and now it is all unicorns and rainbows.

This is the violence you guys and your leaders have been approving of and condoning and funding all summer long.

Final national murder update of 2020:Murder up 36.7% in 57 agencies with data through at least September [[though most have data through November). Murder up in 51 of 57, 37 of 58 agencies reporting murder up more than 30%.

Last year, an alarming increase in homicides left communities — often in lockdown — reeling as officials searched for answers. That was evident at lots of news conferences as police officials and mayors in Chicago, Los Angeles and New York City rolled out dire news.
At the end of 2020, Chicago police reported more than 750 murders, a jump of more than 50% compared with 2019. By mid-December, Los Angeles saw a 30% increase over the previous year with 322 homicides. There were 437 homicides in New York City by Dec. 20, nearly 40% more than the previous year.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=1757262194

Notice the common trend in all of that ?

Because the socialist democrat party has supporters in power and in forums that justify the violence and raise their bail money for them,their controlled cities have the largest murder rates in the country.

And they just for the life of themselves cannot figure out why everybody is fleeing those cities,but sure are quick to blame it on everybody else.

Now go down the list of cities that had the most injured LEO and compare it to the list of the cities with the highest murder increases,even while during lockdown.

That is just murder rates,it does not include the free for all rape,burglary,strong arm robbery etc.

Notice the correlation?

I do fact check,and I do not write sources off simply based on personal feelings,I look at content and not cherry pick one case and use that as a base of discussion.

If you are thinking my links were right wing propaganda,then once again I have posted left wing propaganda news sources just for you guys.

Que the attack Richard in 1 2 3 .........

Because we do not want to know the truth and personal attacks are the only way we can debate the facts.

The violence of the democrat party makes the right wing radicals look like pussies,when was the last time anybody on the right spent the night burning and looting cities?

When in history has the Republican Party destroyed cities by burning them to the ground in the name of social justice?

And now your wakjob representatives are floating drone strikes on US soil against US citizens?

If we are going down the domestic terrorism road,what exactly do you call a party that loots and burns cities and occupied land in those cities claiming it was their sovereign land?

O I forgot,they were just misguided kids having fun,while terrorizing entire cities in the process.

The democrats sold the country out and their fellow citizens,not because there was a man in there that was throwing the country under the bus,it was because they simply hated him.

You do not even realize what you have really given up yet,you traded democracy in exchange for spite.

You know what happens next out of no choice?

With the murder rate spiraling out of control in the democrat cities?

People are going to be fleeing those cities in mass to escape the violence,then the cities will have no choice but to crack down by any means necessary,that will be the time when it will come back on you and you will become the target of the animal you created.

History repeats itself.

The democrats have you thinking that a tiny percentage on right wing radicals are the domestic terrorists,while they support and control the cities with the largest murder rates in the country,nothing like a good old distraction of a right winger to take the focus off of your own failures.

Oh please, Richard, no one wants facts and figures. Everyone wants feel good ideology and instant gratification. Stick a sign on your front lawn in your lily white neighborhood and you're done. Besides, no one has the comprehension to read past the first two lines anyway. You've already been told that.

**bust** · February-01-21, 09:28 PM

Wrong.

I don't have forever to correct false "data", but supposedly yous say on July 11, 350 NY police were injured. Just one example.

Says whom? What injuries? How? Are there other perspectives?

Do you know the 5 W's and 1 H of journalism? Obviously not.

Here's better journalism, from some who do:

An Unprepared N.Y.P.D. Badly Mishandled Floyd Protests, Watchdog Says
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/18/n...-protests.html

New York AG sues NYPD over handling of Black Lives Matter protests
https://abcnews.go.com/US/york-ag-su...ry?id=75251212

New York police used excessive force against BLM demonstrators, report finds
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1776452.html

New York police lacked training, used excessive force during summer protests, city investigation finds
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-g...-idUSKBN28S1QK

Better yet, for those who don't just do lip service to data, here's a GitHub of US police brutality, 2020 alone. It includes links to first-person video and original sources. How many did police injure? Did you count?

2020PB / police-brutality
https://github.com/2020PB/police-brutality

Even if you knew how to accurately use data, would you?

Where do we even find accurate data? Certainly not in Detroit. Even in NY the Police Commissioner is rogue: "These Remarks Might Get a Police Chief Fired. Not in New York."

Except for sports and weather, and then maybe, do we even still have local journalism? How much was produced by MediaLink?

Local news is a sh¡tshow, since decades, especially on TV. The Metro Times, not the highest standard-- a weekly-- or Crain's, may be the best we still have.

**bust** · February-01-21, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by Honky Tonk

Oh please...

Where's Meddle when we most need him?
Such a long and, um, inaccurate quote.

**Richard** · February-01-21, 11:07 PM

Originally Posted by Honky Tonk

Oh please, Richard, no one wants facts and figures. Everyone wants feel good ideology and instant gratification. Stick a sign on your front lawn in your lily white neighborhood and you're done. Besides, no one has the comprehension to read past the first two lines anyway. You've already been told that.

Yes you notice right on cue when they do not agree with you even after being presented with facts,they accuse you of spreading misinformation.

Forget about the discussion was flipped from radical left violence to,It was only one policeman that got run over.

They continue to ignore the summer violence and call it peaceful protests.

That is why they are keeping 5000 NG in Washington according to them it is to combat misinformation.

So now they want to use the military to combat misinformation on US soil after spending a summer of violence and allowing it to continue after refusing to allow the NG to help quell it.

I bet they are up salivating over the Burma coup,they saw how quick and easy it was.