Voter Fraud in Detroit?

[jcole]

I'm curious to know how they are going to protest a largely virtual event in any kind of meaningful way

You have people that are really "butthurt" the dictator lost. The Proud Boys are threatening to protest Biden's inauguration. Didn't realize how many misguided, hate filled people are in this country. Trump brought them all out the woodwork like termites.

[Gistok]

Gistok, etc.: I know it's hard, but it does no good to try to counter his propaganda with logic.

I usually only read his first sentence, then the rest of his long winded posts just become a soliloquy... where he's just talking to himself, without anyone else paying attention.

With lawyers like Rudy Giuliani and Sydney Powell... how can anything they say be taken seriously [[still laughing at Giuliani holding up that white binder of "proof").

He drank the Trump Kool-Aid... and expects us to follow suit.... HA!

[jcole]

I actually needed a translation for that first line but I think I parsed it now. "You are basing your expertise based on what investigation outside what you have been told."
It loses its connection to the English language after "expertise". "Based on what investigation outside" is a totally random sentence fragment. Then "what you have been told" finishes the sentence. The "on" needs to be moved in front of the "what". So then you get "You are basing your expertise on what you have been told" which still isn't a great sentence but at least follows form.

Sure....conspiracies mean more than facts.

This was never about illegal votes to Republicans. It's nothing more than the same old voter suppression tactics. All one needs to do is listen to what they're saying...

Rand Paul Says The Quiet Part Out Loud, Promotes Voter Fraud Conspiracy Theories | Crooks and Liars

Top Trump adviser: Republicans have 'always' relied on voter suppression | US politics | The Guardian

Voting by mail eliminates tactics like limiting polling stations, making people jump through hoops to get approved to vote by mail [[making voters get a notary public sig witness when the closest is 20-25 miles away).

It was the Republicans that tried their best to not have absentee ballots counted until after in-person votes were counted. How else could they scream they were illegal ? They saw the writing on the wall months before the election.

If you don't vote Republican, their claim is you're stupid & ill-informed.

[bust]

We know of course he'll respond.
Are there better uses of your time than to read it?
Are there better uses of your time than to respond?
Let's optimistically focus on progress.
He's the biggest troll; we should not feed him.

[Richard]

You have people that are really "butthurt" the dictator lost. The Proud Boys are threatening to protest Biden's inauguration. Didn't realize how many misguided, hate filled people are in this country. Trump brought them all out the woodwork like termites.

Lol you guys shure have some short term memory loss,we just went through 4 years of butt hurt from the Democratic Party,not sure why you guys still call it that,I guess sense N Korea calls its self the Democratic Peoples Republic it sounds good to you guys,same tactics deployed.

Notice how when cities were burning and business looted you guys and your party members championed that,so who is the violent ones spreading hate?

Even in the Obama rein you guys wrere attacking everybody with your labels and trying to degrade those who disagree with you,violently destroying everything that bothered you,look in the mirror once in awhile.

All that time you guys were crying Russians your own party was in bed with China,literally.

So what are some of you,the way you act is no different then your CCP bedfellows.

The conservative democrat party is gone,taken over by the progressives,they are already controlling your thoughts and you have lost the ability to think for yourselves,look at you all you can do is parrot the same old comebacks that you have been for the last 6 years.

You can attack me all you like because it is no secret that some have a sole mission to cause discourse and disruption,it’s a game that been played in every third world country on earth,you are not coming up with anything new,some are so lost that they cannot even realize how easy they are to manipulate.

It is totally irrelevant who won,what is relevant is how they won.

You guys have waged and lost a 6 year battle based on emotions,and you still have not figured it out.

Call me what you like but as far as I am concerned,if you guys are going to such extremes to not to get to the truth,then we have bigger issues to deal with then an election.

Besides how many Trump supporters have you heard publicly cry that they are moving to Canada if Biden wins,that is the difference,you guys run from your fear and hide,others do not.

It would probably be best to just be out in the open and change it from the DNC to the ACP,because that is where you are at by the way you are acting.

Those who still follow the conservative democrat party,you are getting sucked right down that rabbit hole,look at the comments that has never been the normal for the conservative democrats it is a form of dissension right out the CIA playbook,page 237, on how to overthrow governments from within.

Nobody has to believe anything I say,the majority of what I have posted in this thread came directly from the hearings,and the tactics that you see played out here are no different then was has already been used in Latin America for the last 50 years and it was Hillary Clinton’s playbook used in Africa.

And people act like they are really smart throwing out names like schoolchildren in order to try and discredit others,when you want to divert attention from your misdeeds direct the attention on to others.

The weight challenged lady still has not sung yet,and the pentagon was wise to stop the briefings with Biden,that party has already compromised the national security of this country while creating a disinformation campaign about the Russians in oder to divert attention from themselves.

Like it or not,we will find the truth,it does not matter if it comes from Detroit or Philadelphia because it is more important then a singular state or city,your lack of interest and your little black shirt pussies in Antifa are not going to distract from that.

In the bigger picture your personal feelings or my personal feelings mean nothing and why some of you think these little person slights against me hurt my feelings is beyond me.Like I posted before it shows your character more then mine.

We could have done this the easy way,most of us have the same objective which is the preservation for future generations,just like those before us,some made the decision to do this the hard way,some out of that sub group are doing so because that is what they were told to do,while others just jump on the bandwagon in order to appear woke and fit in.

You guys are doing everything in your power to do this the hard way,at least have the decency to own up to it instead of doing the same old boring misdirection.It makes you weak and that is why you have not really accomplished anything in the last 12 years,for your city or your country.

You sent the message that it is okay to win at any cost,you sent the message that it okay for judges and other officials,elected and non elected it is okay to throw away the constitution in order to win.

For the ones who hold the values of this country over party,what happens to you personally now that the standard has been set that your rights under the constitution are no longer guaranteed and are subject to change according to who is holding a pen at any given time.

When you want to win an election that bad where you are supporting the dismissal of the constitution in oder to gain that win,you not only lose those rights under the constitution you also spit on the grave of every military member in history that gave their lives to defend it.

If the democrat party had nothing to hide all they had to do was say,here are the books and all this would have been over within a couple of weeks.

But they did not and that is not the definition of free and fair elections,no matter what party one belongs to,that is the very definition of a dictatorship saying it was our election and we allowed you to participate in order to make it appear as if it is was a Democratic decision.

Exactly how it was done in Hong Kong and Venezuela recently and exactly how it was done for the last 200 years.

You guys thought it was cool to run an election based on bullying and pissing on the constitution,others do not find that acceptable,then you come on with this fake act like you are surprised that others just did not lay down.

Where exactly did the emotions get you in advancing your city and state for the last 4 years?

You guys make up all these labels for those who support Trump because you hate him,your outlook is nobody can support somebody’s policy’s and if they support the candidate then they are an extension of.

Okay sounds logical according to some.

The one that stood up and yelled at the top of her voice impeach the MFR or your governor that spent every single waking moment lashing out at Trump.

So by your definition you are an extension of your representatives.

Did they shut up enough to pull some federal grants to get your roads fixed when somebody in Washington was campaigning on infrastructure?

Did they shut up enough to get the 53 million in skills and advanced skills trading for your fellow citizens?

Did they shut up enough when somebody in Washington was campaigning on made in America and creating more manufacturing in this country?

That is the irony in all of that,you thought that you were hurting Trump and it felt good when all you did was hurt your city and state,when it was not in a position to lose another 4 years of stall,what is worse you hurt the ones that needed help the most and made sure they stayed down for another 4 years.

Most of you are probably to young and are to blinded by emotions in order to see what NAFTA did to your city and state and yet you stood up and yelled orange man bad about something you knew little about.

You do not have to like any president but you will remain self destructive if you continue on this path.

You do not have to like somebody questioning election results either but sometimes thing need to happen for reasons outside of and bigger then your personal space,because outside of that is a whole bunch of other people that count and matter.

[bust]

^^
Sincere advice: Don't read it.
Can't resist: Bring popcorn.

[Meddle]

Sincere advice: Don't read it.

Don't quote it either.

[Richard]

Don't quote it either.

And you surprise me,or maybe not,but how exactly do you pick and choose what rights you support?

On one hand you have complained about government officials overextending their authority under Covid,then turn right around and support Judges and elected and non elected officials breaking the constitutional laws when it comes to an election that you agreed with.

You are thinking that that same judge would not throw you in prison if you were brought up on election fraud charges?

We have enough judges overstepping their authority and throwing people in prison already,rights be damned and now we have a large part of the population giving them cart-blanch.

[Vic01]

We know of course he'll respond.
Are there better uses of your time than to read it?
Are there better uses of your time than to respond?
Let's optimistically focus on progress.
He's the biggest troll; we should not feed him.

Are you guys aware of the "ignore" button? It works, and accomplishes what several have wished for...

[Richard]

Are you guys aware of the "ignore" button? It works, and accomplishes what several have wished for...

Do not be silly,of course they know what it is,it just makes it hard to try and suppress opposing views if you press ignore,then there are those who have said they used it but still managed to comment.

[bust]

Don't quote it either.

Good advice.
Oh, sorry.

[ndavies]

After legal threat, Fox airs news package debunking election fraud claims made by its own hosts.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/19/busin...age/index.html

[Jimaz]

After legal threat, Fox airs news package debunking election fraud claims made by its own hosts.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/19/busin...age/index.html

Thanks for posting that. That validates a decision I made long ago: Never EVER watch Fox "News." It's contaminated. It's contageous.

[Zacha341]

^^^ And certainly not alone it their political-​advocacy style of reporting!

[ndavies]

Yes, it looks like the lawsuits based on real facts are coming. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn...ems/index.html

[Lowell]

Yes, it looks like the lawsuits based on real facts are coming. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn...ems/index.html

Election tech company Smartmatic is threatening lawsuits against Fox News and other media outlets for falsely vilifying their products. This has the network scrambling to cover its behind.

"Earlier this week, Smartmatic announced that it had threatened legal action against Fox News, Newsmax and One America News Network “for publishing false and defamatory statements,” after talking heads on the outlets have pushed claims of election fraud, including unfounded conspiracy theories of rigged voting machine companies."

https://deadline.com/2020/12/lou-dob...ng-1234659655/

[Cincinnati_Kid]

I'm curious to know how they are going to protest a largely virtual event in any kind of meaningful way

Your guess is as good as mine. They interviewed one of them, and that's what he said.

[leland_palmer]

Newsmax backpedaling as well.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/n...-a-scalded-dog

https://www.newsmax.com/us/smartmati...19/id/1002355/

Also another request for sanctions against lawyers.

Nessel to seek sanctions against lawyers challenging Michigan's election results

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/ne...ts/4009929001/

[leland_palmer]

By the way, here is an example of a case of ACTUAL voter fraud committed by...wait for it...a Trump supporter.

[Meddle]

The NAACP has stepped in to a civil rights lawsuit against the GOP and others that targeted cities and counties with the suits to block or overturn elections.

[Meddle]

Also:

Charge filed in threats against Wayne County election official
Detroit Free Press|22 minutes ago
A woman has been charged with making threats against a Detroit-area Republican election official who received photos of a mutilated body a day after a clamorous meeting at which she initially refused to certify local results in favor of Joe Biden ...

https://www.freep.com/story/news/loc...es/4026231001/

[oladub]

And as for Antrim County... I know Antrim County... a family member has a cottage on Torch Lake there. There are only 23,500 residents in the entire county... they vote heavily Republican... all 14,000 voters. it doesn't mean squat for a change in the Michigan turning blue [[again).

Antrim County's significance was the distortion of its vote, by thousands of votes, by programable Dominion voting machines. Now we know that Detroit had also contracted services with Dominion. Wayne County purchased Dominion voting machines. At best, those thousands of misallocated Antrim County votes was a 'glitch'. Yet, there seems to be no investigation of other users of Dominion services and products in Michigan. Even if it was the Antrim County clerk's fault for not noticing an update on programable voting machine updates, did other clerks make the same mistake? No apology from Dominion for missing this one clerk's possible error. This would not have happened with paper ballots.

Dominion responded not to its Antrim County flub up but instead with intimidation; by threatening to sue its critics. The best defense is a good offense. Not everyone can afford to outspend the rich in court.

Here is another lawsuit not related to the election. Everyone is suing. Civics class text books should be updated with a chapter about conducting government with lawsuits.

DETROIT IS SUING BLACK LIVES MATTER PROTESTERS FOR “CIVIL CONSPIRACY”

[ndavies]

Antrim County's significance was the distortion of its vote, by thousands of votes, by programable Dominion voting machines. Now we know that Detroit had also contracted services with Dominion. Wayne County purchased Dominion voting machines. At best, those thousands of misallocated Antrim County votes was a 'glitch'. Yet, there seems to be no investigation of other users of Dominion services and products in Michigan. Even if it was the Antrim County clerk's fault for not noticing an update on programable voting machine updates, did other clerks make the same mistake? No apology from Dominion for missing this one clerk's possible error. This would not have happened with paper ballots.

Dominion responded not to its Antrim County flub up but instead with intimidation; by threatening to sue its critics. The best defense is a good offense. Not everyone can afford to outspend the rich in court.

Here is another lawsuit not related to the election. Everyone is suing. Civics class text books should be updated with a chapter about conducting government with lawsuits.

DETROIT IS SUING BLACK LIVES MATTER PROTESTERS FOR “CIVIL CONSPIRACY”

The ballots are all on paper. The machines only count the paper ballots. That's how they corrected the error. They reconfigured the machine and reran the paper ballots.

That's how they went back, did an audit and hand counted the ballots. that's how they know the machine count was only off by 0.07% of the hand count of the paper ballots.

[Zacha341]

Hmmm... Had to be some a strong, compelling and perhaps unspoken threats [[beyond what's being reported) to make some of these [[beyond the Fox-snews) indy news sources to call off the dogs!

[[I am not stating this in defense of Trump - NOPE. I'm instead looking at the bigger picture of information exchange, and power.)

Newsmax backpedaling as well.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/n...-a-scalded-dog

https://www.newsmax.com/us/smartmati...19/id/1002355/

[Zacha341]

Shucks! Why won't Detroiter's just behave and fall-in-line? After all we're all alike and think alike as well!

DETROIT IS SUING BLACK LIVES MATTER PROTESTERS FOR “CIVIL CONSPIRACY”