Minneapolis LEO kneeling on neck of black man That died...

[Zacha341]

Oh you've got JOKES...... LOL!

...With the advent of cell phones we have removed all of the phone booths that they used to instantly change in to become superpowers.

[Richard]

The North Hollywood shootout was in 1997.

The MOVE Bombing by Philadelphia PD was in 1985

Detroit was using armored vehicles in the 70s. Can't recall when they first got the Bearcat though.

The heavy militarization didn't start until fairly recently when Department of Defense began a program to offload excess military hardware to civilian agencies.

SRT teams always had the hardware,but now days every officer has to be prepared for anything to be able to respond to any situation.

They have clawed back a lot of the X military equipment that was delivered but now even BLM is fully weaponized for war.

[jcole]

This is from employees at the store Floyd was in before he was killed. I was wrong; he didn't forge a check. He tried to use a possibly bogus $20 bill. Certainly, that deserves death by asphyxiation ...

Abumayyaleh was not at work the day of the incident but said Floyd was a regular at his store and he never had an issue with him in the past. On the day of the incident, Abumayyaleh said Floyd came in with a man and a woman.The man tried to use what an employee suspected was a counterfeit $20 bill but an employee caught it, gave it back to the man and they left, Abumayyaleh said. Roughly 10 minutes later, Floyd came back in the store and used a suspicious $20 bill, according to the owner.
The employee didn't immediately notice and Floyd left but the employee followed protocol and called the police. Floyd was still outside the store when officers arrived.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...m_npd_nn_fb_ma

[Zacha341]

Yep. That's the rub [[does the crime fit the tomb-stone outcome once the person is subdued). The defenders of LEO misconduct will go back to a persons pre-school days to find what they did wrong to justify their actions. History shows that before video evidence some bad police got away with alot.

I was listening to a broadcast form a current LEO explained that once the person stops resisting - is subdued there are several options, including rolling them on their back, etc. My dad used to speak of the 'appearance of impropriety...'. Well this whole thing appears boldly like restraint GONE WRONG.

[Johnnny5]

Here's a video showing when Mr. Floyd was initially pulled over. It's hard to tell, but it appears as if he's either intentionally putting up a small amount of resistance, or is having medical issues even at that point. As he falls to the ground when getting out of the car, then again after crossing the street.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKV7Mi9YUAQ

[aj3647]

The officer that killed George Floyd, Officer Derek Chauvin, has been the subject of over a dozen misconduct complaints over his career.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...story-n1215691

[jcole]

I think they said he was drunk; that would explain the falling.

Here's a video showing when Mr. Floyd was initially pulled over. It's hard to tell, but it appears as if he's either intentionally putting up a small amount of resistance, or is having medical issues even at that point. As he falls to the ground when getting out of the car, then again after crossing the street.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKV7Mi9YUAQ

[Richard]

I think they said he was drunk; that would explain the falling.

It would also explain why he was driving,if he had killed somebodies baby while driving drunk,it would have been just another day.

[oladub]

The officer that killed George Floyd, Officer Derek Chauvin, has been the subject of over a dozen misconduct complaints over his career.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...story-n1215691

How could this be? One of the other officers fired also had such things on his record. Minneapolis has a very liberal Democratic Mayor elected by Minneapolis voters. Minneapolis has a black police chief. It must be Trump's fault that Derek Chauvin was still on the payroll.

[aj3647]

How could this be? One of the other officers fired also had such things on his record. Minneapolis has a very liberal Democratic Mayor elected by Minneapolis voters. Minneapolis has a black police chief. It must be Trump's fault that Derek Chauvin was still on the payroll.

Would it surprise you to learn that the Minneapolis Police Department does NOT have a residency requirement for its officers?

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2015/0...icer-residency

Only about 5.4 percent of Minneapolis officers live in city boundaries, according to data obtained by MPR News from the Minneapolis Police Department.

Given that nearly 95% of the MPD lives outside the city limits, do tell how the party affiliation of the mayor has anything to do with the beliefs and attitudes of the rank-and-file officers of the MPD? They don't live in that city, they didn't vote for that mayor. Their only connection to Minneapolis is that they work there and occasionally kill some of the people who actually live there. Perhaps the fact that Minnesota Vikings team colors are Purple, Gold, and White has something to do with it as well, since you're associating things that have no logical association whatsoever?

Next up, what does the Police Chief's race have to do with it? David Clarke was an African-American Sheriff...and he's a conservative Republican. And as I'm sure you are aware, most police officers are politically conservative. And the largest police union in America, the Fraternal Order of Police, endorsed Trump in 2016.

[jcole]

It would also explain why he was driving,if he had killed somebodies baby while driving drunk,it would have been just another day.

Who said he was driving?

[jcole]

In the interest of not giving Richard any other chances to add crimes to Mr Floyd's conduct, I don't believe he was "pulled over". He was sitting in the car and the officers arrived due to a call from a store where Mr Floyd tried to cash a $20 bill they "think" was conterfeit.

Here's a video showing when Mr. Floyd was initially pulled over. I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKV7Mi9YUAQ

[Richard]

Who said he was driving?

watch the video,he was sitting in the drivers seat,in America that would be on the left front side of the vehicle.

There was also a passenger in the front seat [[located on the right side of the vehicle) and passengers in the back seat[[located rearward of the front drivers and passengers seat).

The person sitting in the drivers seat is often referred to as the driver of the vehicle.

The driver of a vehicle is considered the one person that bears the responsibility of operating a vehicle,mostly because the necessary controls needed to operate the vehicle are placed within easy reach of the driver.

Steering wheel,gas pedal,brake pedal and yes to the surprise of everybody discovering this for the first time,a little stick thing that protrudes out of the left side is the steering column is referenced as a turn signal switch.

Does that clear things up?

Yes,if you are intoxicated and sitting in the drivers seat [[located on the left front side of the vehicle in the US version of automobile) with the keys,wether you are in motion or not you will be charged with DWI,everybody knows that.

I will not even go into the whole,let’s take the Mercedes SUV to go try and pass off some fake $20 bills.

I think it is wrong for the mayor of Minneapolis to sit up there instigating riots by repeatedly saying the officer killed the man when he has zero proof of it.

Shows how far the city has really fallen.

[Richard]

Freeman said his job is to prove the officer who kneeled on Floyd "violated a criminal statute. And there is other evidence that does not support a criminal charge. We need to wade through all of that evidence and come to a meaningful decision and we are doing that to the best of our ability."

https://news.yahoo.com/prosecutor-as...011136945.html

Dyes crowd

We do not need no stinking evidence,we determined them guilty,we have the pitchforks and hangman’s noise ready to go,let’s get em.

[Honky Tonk]

Probably too late to look at any evidence from any case now.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/fires-loo...115744068.html

[Jimaz]

CNN reporter says 'zero' police presence as Minneapolis precinct burns

[Jimaz]

Police arrest CNN correspondent Omar Jimenez and crew on live television

[jcole]

Of course they did; they don't want any coverage of the wrongdoing by the police dept

Police arrest CNN correspondent Omar Jimenez and crew on live television

[jcole]

He had just come out of the store where they refused to take the $20; he hadn't driven anywhere. Have you never just sat in a car for a few minutes with friends? Oh, that's right, you probably don't have friends.

watch the video,he was sitting in the drivers seat,in America that would be on the left front side of the vehicle.

[oladub]

Would it surprise you to learn that the Minneapolis Police Department does NOT have a residency requirement for its officers?

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2015/0...icer-residency
https://www.mprnews.org/story/2018/1...s-police-chief

Given that nearly 95% of the MPD lives outside the city limits, do tell how the party affiliation of the mayor has anything to do with the beliefs and attitudes of the rank-and-file officers of the MPD? They don't live in that city, they didn't vote for that mayor. Their only connection to Minneapolis is that they work there and occasionally kill some of the people who actually live there. Perhaps the fact that Minnesota Vikings team colors are Purple, Gold, and White has something to do with it as well, since you're associating things that have no logical association whatsoever?

Next up, what does the Police Chief's race have to do with it? David Clarke was an African-American Sheriff...and he's a conservative Republican. And as I'm sure you are aware, most police officers are politically conservative. And the largest police union in America, the Fraternal Order of Police, endorsed Trump in 2016.

Minneapolis has a black police chief who was reappointed by the Minneapolis City Council and the very liberal Mayor Frey. Minnesota also has a Democratic Governor. Almost everyone who has any say in Minneapolis government is a Democrat. Those elected officials make the rules there including residency requirements. At least two of those four police officers had a history of abusing their authority. Take some responsibility.

If police who reside outside of Minneapolis cannot control themselves as you imply, why did Gov. Walz call in the National Guard? Some of those guys come from the north woods and who knows what their politics are. Maybe Gov. Walz should have called in antifa whose members are more reliably leftist if they can be roused. Oh wait, they might have been been out late at night burning buildings after the looters were through with them. Burning a block of 'affordable housing' under construction was a nice touch.

[aj3647]

Minneapolis has a black police chief who was reappointed by the Minneapolis City Council and the very liberal Mayor Frey. Minnesota also has a Democratic Governor. Almost everyone who has any say in Minneapolis government is a Democrat.

And the country has a REPUBLICAN President who is currently fanning the flames of violence on Twitter, calling the protesters "Thugs", saying things such as "when the looting starts, the shooting starts", and threatening to send in military troops [[which is of course, grossly illegal).

Take responsibility indeed.

And I'll ask you a SECOND time, what does the police chief's race have to do with anything? You laser focused on the fact that he's black and you have not felt the need to mention the race of the either the mayor or the Governor. Why is that, oladub? I guess he must be part of the black hive mind due to his black skin, right oladub?

Meanwhile, I'd love to hear you defend Trump's threat to send in federal military troops to Minneapolis, in what would be a blatant violation of the Posse Comitatus Act.

https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...atens-military

In your expert opinion Oladub, would it be legal for Donald Trump to order the Army to march into Minneapolis and police its streets?

[Richard]

He had just come out of the store where they refused to take the $20; he hadn't driven anywhere. Have you never just sat in a car for a few minutes with friends? Oh, that's right, you probably don't have friends.

When you make it personal against me it shows that you have no basis and are losing grip.

It is totally irrelevant if I have friends or if I have even sat in a car personally,the facts are he was sitting in the drivers seat when the police rolled up and the call was that he was intoxicated or something,the facts are also,when sit behind the wheel of a vehicle while intoxicated,you will be charge with DUI because you are in control of the vehicle,driving or not.

He was a regular in that store,he had to do something really messed up for them to call the police,people trying to pass fake and altered bills is a daily part of that business.

AJ posted the officer’s history but neglected to post the perps history where in Texas he served 5 years for home invasion and robbery.

What are you going to do if your narrative proves to be false,are you going to retract your statements of automatic guilt?

I guess you did not read where I posted that so far it has been determined that there is more evidence proving no criminal intent against the officer then the narrative that you are pushing.

It is a narrative because you have already played judge and jury based on what you think and not on the evidence.

[Meddle]

Meanwhile, I'd LOVE to hear you defend Trump's threat to send in federal military troops to Minneapolis, in what would be a BLATANT violation of the Posse Comitatus Act.

In your expert opinion Oladub, would it be legal for Donald Trump to order the Army to march into Minneapolis and police its streets?

Have you forgotten '67?

[jcole]

They didn't "send" troops; Michigan/Detroit had to request them. Sames goes for now

Have you forgotten '67?

[Meddle]