Minneapolis LEO kneeling on neck of black man That died...

[aj3647]

Derek Chauvin, the former Minneapolis police officer who killed George Floyd by kneeling on his neck for 8 minutes, has been charged with NINE felony counts of tax evasion and is facing 40 years in prison.

https://www.npr.org/sections/live-up...th-tax-evasion

Among his offenses:
-He and his wife under-reported their income for five years by not reporting nearly 100K in income that Chauvin earned doing off-duty security work.
-Chauvin and his wife didn't even bother filing state tax returns or paying state taxes for 2016-2019.
-They fraudulently registered a $100,000 Mercedes Benz in Florida to avoid paying Minnesota taxes on it.

So, even if he were to beat the charges on Floyd's death, he's for sure heading to prison anyways. Criminal with a badge.

[Bigdd]

So, even if he were to beat the charges on Floyd's death, he's for sure heading to prison anyways.

This is what they need to end this, as they probably won't be able to get a conviction re Floyd's death, as there's no evidence his actions had anything to do with Floyd's death.

[jcole]

I know, let's do an experiment; allow Chauvin to kneel on your neck for 9 minutes and see what happens. We can have someone check into the evidence later.

This is what they need to end this, as they probably won't be able to get a conviction re Floyd's death, as there's no evidence his actions had anything to do with Floyd's death.

[aj3647]

I know, let's do an experiment; allow Chauvin to kneel on your neck for 9 minutes and see what happens. We can have someone check into the evidence later.

The Hennepin County medical examiner's report categorized Floyd's death as a "Homicide" and listed his cause of death as "cardiopulmonary arrest while being restrained" by officers who had subjected Floyd to "neck compression."

So, I'm no lawyer, but I imagine that report will be evidence in the trial.

[Bigdd]

I know, let's do an experiment; allow Chauvin to kneel on your neck for 9 minutes and see what happens. We can have someone check into the evidence later.

That would be fine. It's wouldn't harm me at all.

It's a totally safe maneuver, which is why it's used by police departments all over the country. It's taught by police departments [[Including the Minneapolis PD) as a proper tactic.

A few things we need to consider that the race-baiting, America hating leftist media won't tell us;

1. The officers knee was against the BACK of Mr. Floyd's neck,.. NOT HIS THROAT. Try this experiment yourself [[I have),..... take your right fist and press it against the right rear of your neck,... and see if it interferes with your breathing at all.

Press REAL HARD,.. so hard that it leaves marks on your neck.

It doesn't affect your breathing at all does it? Not even the teeny, tiniest bit.


2. The other officer had Mr. Floyd cuffed, and standing against the squad car. He then tried to put Mr. Floyd inside [[where he could have sat peacefully by himself. This would also allow the officers could stop paying attention to him, and instead go about dealing with the car, the other occupants, searching for drugs, etc. etc). But Mr. Floyd said no, and that he was having trouble breathing [[this while he's still standing up). He also says "I can't breathe". And that he was claustrophobic and that he'd just had Covid. He then insisted he be laid down on the pavement.

The media doesn't mention this do they? That he couldn't breathe EVEN BEFORE he was put on the ground, and long before anyone's knee was against the BACK of his neck?

The reason why he is dead now is probably because of him having already had breathing issues because of a combination of things like him being high on fentanyl, and meth, and being a smoker [[of cigarettes and drugs), and having Covid, and having atherosclerotic and hypertensive heart disease, etc, etc.

On top of that, he was probably having a panic attack, because he was being arrested with hard drugs in and ON his person. That plus hi already having a bunch of strikes against him already meant he was likely to go away for a long time.

There is no real evidence that the cop's knee had anything to do with his death. But is was a bad look.

[Bigdd]

The Hennepin County medical examiner's report categorized Floyd's death as a "Homicide" and listed his cause of death as "cardiopulmonary arrest while being restrained" by officers who had subjected Floyd to "neck compression."



So, I'm no lawyer, but I imagine that report will be evidence in the trial.

No, not really.

As summarized by CBS News
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/george-...ation-details/

Hennepin County Medical Examiner's office said Floyd died of "cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint and neck compression." The manner of death was ruled homicide, but the office noted that "is not a legal determination of culpability or intent." A preliminary autopsy report cited earlier by prosecutors said the county medical examiner's review "revealed no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation."

The Hennepin County medical examiner's office, however, said Floyd experienced cardiopulmonary arrest while being restrained by the officer. The county autopsy said Floyd had "other significant conditions" including "arteriosclerotic and hypertensive heart disease; fentanyl intoxication; [and] recent methamphetamine use." The office had not previously released the findings pending toxicology reports.

[Zacha341]

Well at least the murder of Mr. Floyd is being discussed once again. Heck - the protestors, and looters, vandals no longer mention him........

[Richard]

Well at least the murder of Mr. Floyd is being discussed once again. Heck - the protestors, and looters, vandals no longer mention him........

once the impeachment dreams were dashed they needed something else,if it was not Mr. Floyd it would have been something else.

Between the cancel culture and the fascists running around calling everybody else fascist while attacking on social media everybody that does not hold to their demented way of life,even desperate attacks for spelling,they want to bring everything to a head and are going to find out really quick that the majority of the country does not support their little antics.

Most of them look like little 20 something freaks anyways.

They went after J.K. Rowling and she shut them down really quick,they hate when people fight back against them.

You can see them run like a bunch of little wussies when the feds go after them,or when others stand up to them.just a bunch of low life thugs thinking they have a cause.

The violent protests around here were organized by the Students Democratic socialist party,it has nothing to do with the police or systematic injustice,an opportunity presented itself and they took the ball and ran with it.

If they actually cared or supported the whole injustice thing they would have never hijacked the peaceful protests,they stripped them of their rights to peaceful assembly and did not even give them an option.

Instead of Girls Gone Wild it is Bernie Bro’s and Marxists Gone Wild with an added dash of radical socialist Fascist wanna be’s.

They just do not like it when the feds or LEO add the pepper in for extra flavor.

[Bigdd]

Well at least the murder of Mr. Floyd is being discussed once again. Heck - the protestors, and looters, vandals no longer mention him........

Well, that's what it was assumed to be before any details came out.

As of yet, we have no evidence it was murder. It "seems" to be that he died of a combination of pre-existing heart conditions, lethal drug use and covid.

[Zacha341]

^^^ George Floyd could've lived on with a heart condition [[many do), drugs and even COVID depending on the run of the virus [[I know six people who had C-19 who lived). Drug addicts can end their addictions with treatment.

How Floyd was apprehended hastened his death, that particular day, at the end of eight-plus minutes, specifically, on camera.

The eh' debate will continue right on to the courts, thankfully.

Where before so many cases did not beyond an insularly, closed system that allowed offending LEO's with long-histories of misconduct to flourish!

Having said that, I THINK the anti-policing, LEO, 'Fu%k the police!' narrative and ideology's gone too far at the behest of [insert the variable here]. Appeased and justified at the level of destroying whole cities and communities.

As I have said, police yet have a job to do, and lawlessness increases without their presence. Ask the average Detroiter! More police [[including the law-abiding ones) are throwing up their hands to leave us to ourselves as civility winds down in cities nationwide.

Beyond the desired outcome of complete chaos you can't have it both ways [[as far left presents) dis-arming law abiding citizens [[exempting themselves of course), yet demanding policing disbanding...?

And just what are criminals doing in the mean time -- during all of this?

Cheering!

Happily times indeed going forth knowing there's little push back.

[Richard]

The body cam with sound has been released to the public,interesting how the media does not play it,gotta keep the narrative alive.

Asked 10 times to show his hands originally.

Once placed in the squad car he said he was claustrophobic and could not breath while kicking the doors.

He asked to removed from the squad car and to be placed on the ground because he could not breath,medics were already called the first time he said he could not breathe.

The video shown to the public at the start of it all kicks in after he was already removed from the car,at his request,while fighting and kicking the police the whole time.

In the audio the other officers asked several times if they should place him on his side,not sure how that would have helped,his friends said he was being combative because of his multiple interactions with the police in the past always ended in turmoil.

I wonder why when you are asked nicely 10 times to show your hands but yet you refuse.

This is more like suicide by cop more then anything.

[Richard]

Not that anybody will be interested in the facts but here is the complete body cam video of Floyd’s arrest.

https://www.facebook.com/56902285325...34100031/?vh=e

[Bigdd]

Body cam footage finally released.

Can't find it by itself, but someone linked this guys analysis though FB.

The Fake News industry does everything it can to twist what actually happened.

https://www.facebook.com/DailyWire/v...wMzcxMzAwMDY5/

[Wheels]

Body cam footage finally released.

Can't find it by itself, but someone linked this guys analysis though FB.

The Fake News industry does everything it can to twist what actually happened.

https://www.facebook.com/DailyWire/v...wMzcxMzAwMDY5/

Two videos here.
https://www.redstate.com/shipwrecked...keith-ellison/

[Johnnny5]

I heard "I don't want to go back to that place." at least twice, maybe even more times. George Floyd knew he was going back to jail/prison, hence his physical resistance which is clearly visible in the above video.

Three of these cops aren't going to be convicted of a darn thing and should never have been charged. Not even the case against the officer that had his knee on Floyd's neck is a slam dunk, especially since the prosecutor upped the charges to 2nd degree murder.

[Richard]

^ they are going to wait until the elections then disclose that they will not be prosecuting murder charges so the riots kick back in to distract.

They keep pushing the mantra that he murdered him,but as they are finding out not even close,even more so when he was using a department approved method of restraint.

[Zacha341]

Body cam footage finally released....

https://www.facebook.com/DailyWire/v...wMzcxMzAwMDY5/

Per that facebook post [[and viewing the police video body-cam), Matt Walsh's commentary is MOST revealing beyond what he may see.

Setting aside the parasitic agendas of some negligent homicide is the minimum that occurred in the case of George Floyd.

Interestingly the police dash-cam video and detailed commentary of Walsh provide several key points.

At the 7:28 mark, concluding one section of the engagement between LEO Chauvin and Floyd, after having maintained that the death of Floyd was not murder Walsh states:

“...None of this as previously stated conclusively exonerates the officers of any and all wrong doing, but it does establish a few facts that may mitigate their culpability…”

OK.

Walsh further questions how the officers were to know if Floyd was really in distress since he was claiming he was all the long [[of which Walsh admits are not exculpatory facts anyway). Yet he [[Walsh) goes on to list further ‘facts’ onward [9:20] stating:

“Now in reality, Floyd may still be the victim of some degree of negligence, but it seems that the murder charge will be difficult to prove. The truth just isn’t that simple and it rarely is and that’s a lesson we would all do well to remember in the future….”

Got that.

And I agree that CNN neglected to convey all that occurred for politics. That's one side of the misinformation.

But still does not take away the negligent, careless manner in which Floyd was subdued. The body-cam shows a great deal INDEED:

Including the 'fact' that arresting officer Chauvin DID NOT respond to Floyds decreasing activity and struggle as he began to expire.

Witnesses noted that the hold was going on too long - speaking out as can be clearly heard in video, as Floyd became quieter unto death.

His body going limp [[as body-cam shows him urinating) during the arrest at minimum shows officer negligence [[which Walsh himself concedes). Walsh also states that he does not know why the media is mum on showing the body-cam.

I'm wondering too?

So murder one? No, but at minimum negligent homicide.

[bust]

So murder one? No, but at minimum negligent homicide.

It'd be hard to believe that's even debatable were it not for already incredible history.

[Honky Tonk]

Walsh also states that he does not know why the media is mum on showing the body-cam.

I'm wondering too?

No you're not, you know the answer, you're a smart cookie. The media grabbed their chance to be relevant and make money, and ran with it. Property and lives be dammed.

[aj3647]

Walsh also states that he does not know why the media is mum on showing the body-cam.

The shit Bigdd linked to was unofficial LEAKED body cam video that was published by the Daily Mail [[a tabloid rag). The official body camera footage was ordered by a judge only yesterday [[as you were making your post) to be made available to the Media. Actual news source below [[i.e. not a British tabloid rag)

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danielcassady/2020/08/08/judge-orders-release-of-bodycam-footage-in-george-floyd-case/#3cf9517e17c5

[aj3647]

No you're not, you know the answer, you're a smart cookie. The media grabbed their chance to be relevant and make money, and ran with it. Property and lives be dammed.

No one in the media covered the new footage, huh?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/03/us/ge...eak/index.html

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ed/5579845002/

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...rrest-n1235663

I'm sorry it hasn't been run 24/7 as BREAKING NEWS on CNN, not that you would even see it if it had.

[Richard]

The shit Bigdd linked to was unofficial LEAKED body cam video that was published by the Daily Mail [[a tabloid rag). The official body camera footage was ordered by a judge only yesterday [[as you were making your post) to be made available to the Media. Actual news source below [[i.e. not a British tabloid rag)

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danielcassady/2020/08/08/judge-orders-release-of-bodycam-footage-in-george-floyd-case/#3cf9517e17c5

Seriously

Does that make sense to you when you post

An unofficial leaked body cam verses a official released one.

How does the exact same video differ whether it is leaked or not.

You do realize that we have gone through three and a half years of trying to remove a sitting president,yourself included,based solely on unofficial leaked information,and NOW you feel it is not acceptable?