Corona Virus Crisis News, Information, Advice & Help Thread

[Bigb23]

Jeez - We learn something every day.

https://tinyurl.com/It-s-not-alive

I hope that the Chinese government will close down the wet meat markets and endangered animal flesh trade for good.

[[Or I won't buy Chinese anymore)

And thanks Lowell, for keeping us informed to the best of your ability in this crazy mishmash of mass media.

[jcole]

The theory is this is that not only do they eat the pangolin, etc, but they believe that some parts of it [[and civet cat and other animals) are cures for various ills, such as bad skin or menstrual cramps. It's very hard to break peoples belief in these ancestral cures which makes closing down these markets even harder. It is already illegal to purchase these animals and what has that stopped?

Jeez - We learn something every day.

https://tinyurl.com/It-s-not-alive

I hope that the Chinese government will close down the wet meat markets and endangered animal flesh trade for good.

[[Or I won't buy Chinese anymore)

And thanks Lowell, for keeping us informed to the best of your ability in this crazy mishmash of mass media.

[JBMcB]

The theory is this is that not only do they eat the pangolin, etc, but they believe that some parts of it [[and civet cat and other animals) are cures for various ills, such as bad skin or menstrual cramps. It's very hard to break peoples belief in these ancestral cures which makes closing down these markets even harder.

The crazier thing is that the modern "traditional" Chinese medicine was invented by the Chinese government in the 1950s. They were trying to modernize their health care system but didn't have the production capacity to make modern medicines, so Mao encouraged "traditional" cures be used as a stop-gap. He didn't believe in it himself, and got Western style health care, of course.

https://slate.com/technology/2013/10...eve-in-it.html

[Lowell]

Another sad inevitability has arrived...

A member of the Detroit Police Department afflicted with the novel coronavirus has died, police announced early Tuesday morning.
Police Chief James Craig will discuss the department's loss at 11 a.m. in a news conference at the Detroit Public Safety Headquarters. It will be broadcast live on the department’s Facebook page.
Mayor Mike Duggan said Monday 14 of the city's 9,000 employees had tested positive for COVID 19, with the police department hit the hardest, with 9 cases.

https://www.freep.com/story/news/loc...ies/2905904001

[Lowell]

DETROIT-WINDSOR METRO + MICHIGAN

• Michigan stores no longer accepting bottle returns
• Michigan smoking more marijuana than any other state
• Rumors circulate of Home Depot Livonia [[deemed essential) having 2 confirmed cases and keeping quiet
• MI businesses ‘struggle’ with question of whether they are essential during lockdown
• Member of Detroit PD dies from covid19
• Ford plans to build 1k respirators ler month using F150 seat fans, portable battery packs, and 3d printed parts and 100k face shields per week in partnership with UAW, GE, and 3M
• Frank Murphy 36th district court gets deep cleaning after exposure
• Amid mask shortage, Detroit apparel makers step in to produce protective gear

REST OF THE WORLD

• 407k Worldwide confirmed cases, 18.2k deaths, 104k recovered, 284k pending cases; as of 5PM est. Numbers subject to nations transparency and testing bandwidth.
• Italian coronavirus cases seen “10 times higher” than official talk as per the head of the agency collaring the data
• Coronavirus stayed on surfaces for up to 17 days on Diamond Princess Cruise CDC says
• WHO anticipated US to become new epicenter for virus
• US has crossed into pandemic threshold
• US president says he wants country opened by Easter
• Some US democrats want Pence to take wheel following president's incoherence
• NY Cuomo to FEMA “You pick the 26k that are going to die”
• 1 in 4 people across the world are under coronavirus restrictions
• Football stadiums around the world are converting to temporary hospitals
• Mexico suspends public and private gatherings
• Judge in Lebanon tries defendants via WhatsApp
• New Zeland enters lockdown
• Romania enters full quarantine, orders army into the streets
• Singapore reintroduces lockdown after second wave of infections
• UK lockdown will last up to six months
• Pakistan deploys army to enforce lockdown
• Indian government to announce total nationwide lockdown until April 14
• Indian police clear out anti government protests citing coronavirus
• Samsung, Xiaomi, other phone brands pause manufacturing in India
• Moscow mayor communicates that ‘serious situation’ is unfolding in Russia
• Putin dons hazmat suit as Moscow says coronavirus outbreak is worse than it looks
• Russian PM Mikhail Mishustin on Monday gave the authorities 5 days to develop a system to track people who have come into contact with coronavirus by using mobile phone geo data
• Taiwan launches ‘electric fence’ program to track people in coronavirus quarantine through their phone GPS data... police will respond within 15 minutes if a person is caught away from home... officials also call twice a day at random to make sure phones are kept on person
• Poland made an app for quarantined patients which forces them to send a selfie or face police.
• Italy approves use of drones to monitor social distancing
• Spain extends lockdown
• Ireland: state takes control of all private hospitals
• Irish patient infected with two strains of covid19 at once
• UK asks for 250k volunteers to help its health service cope
• Netherlands adopts herd immunity approach
• China to lift curbs in Wuhan
• Chinas new cases double due to imported infections
• 2020 Tokyo olympics officially postponed until 2021
• Instagram to remove coronavirus related content from recommendations

[Zacha341]

Press conference on new develoments re. NYC from this evening, see Birx, Pence and Fauci, etc.:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTdcHQr0_Ag

In reference to post above:

I wonder what? They've been rather mum on disclosing numbers?

• Moscow mayor communicates that ‘serious situation’ is unfolding in Russia

I think more than a few indies and repubs may be feeling are agreeing with this. Increasingly. Pence just spoke a few moments ago in a press conference about the growing problem in NY/ NYC etc. It was almost a relief to not be distracted wondering if he was going to say something off, contorted or rash.

• Some US democrats want Pence to take wheel following president's incoherence...

Um, no this is not going to happen. Not with our hot zones growing! But maybe more focus upon the hot zones?

• US president says he wants country opened by Easter

[Dan Wesson]

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...d-live-updates

as of 3/24/20

[Lowell]

Federal legislation that is working its way through Congress will likely be allowing forbearance on mortgage and rent payments [meaning payments may be delayed by tenants without penalty]. This has a cascading effect, particularly on a company like Quicken.

The Wall Street Journal identified Quicken Loans as one of the major firms that are bracing for a wave of missed mortgage payments that would require them to quickly come up with billions of dollars that they hadn't planned on.

This liability would pertain to mortgages that Quicken Loans services. Those are mortgages for which Quicken collects the borrower payments, then passes the payments on to investors who own the mortgages.

Mortgage servicers typically must advance the planned mortgage payments to the investors - regardless of whether borrowers make the actual payments that are due. The servicers are also responsible for payments when borrowers are granted a forbearance, or temporary suspension of their mortgage payments.

Even though mortgage servicers are eventually reimbursed for those advanced payments by entities such as Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac that guarantee mortgages, there is a timing mismatch, which can result in a cash crunch.

https://freep.mi.newsmemory.com/?pub...a9e93a_13435a9

[401don]

Federal legislation that is working its way through Congress will likely be allowing forbearance on mortgage and rent payments [meaning payments may be delayed by tenants without penalty]. This has a cascading effect, particularly on a company like Quicken.

https://freep.mi.newsmemory.com/?pub...a9e93a_13435a9

Apparently refinancing is soaring since everybody is home and it's done over the phone. This should help Quicken some. I bet those guys are really working the phones.

[Kathleen]

A great loss to the citizens of Detroit! Marlowe Stoudamire has passed!
RIH!!

https://www.crainsdetroit.com/obitua...d-19-diagnosis

[Maof]

A great loss to the citizens of Detroit! Marlowe Stoudamire has passed!
RIH!!

https://www.crainsdetroit.com/obitua...d-19-diagnosis

Wow. Only 43, no underlying conditions and no recent travel.

[Lowell]

Local, National And World Covid Stories - March 25, 2020
DETROIT & WINDSOR METRO + MICHIGAN

• Second DPD Officer dead from virus
• Detroit area hospital system 'nearing capacity'
• Quicken Loans may need temporary emergency funding amid pandemic
• Wayne county jail releases pregnant, 'vulnerable' inmates
• Beaumont, Michigan's largest healthcare system, nears capacity.
• Henry Ford Health reaches limit on COVID19 patients at two hospitals
• Domestic Violence Calls Spike 25% under lockdown
• Michigan citizens get "A" grade for social distancing

REST OF THE WORLD

• 441k official cases worldwide, 19.7k deaths, 111.9k recoveries as of 6PM est numbers subject to nations transparency and testing bandwidth.
• Spain's official coronavirus death toll overtakes China'a
• China's transparency regarding past and current numbers called into question by many western countries. One study, pending peer review, said that 60% of Wuhan's cases were asymptomatic or mild enough to not be reported.
• China's premier warns local officials not to hide new infections
• People swarm trains, buses to leave Chinese cities in Hubei as travel restrictions lifted
• Italy sees a decline in daily fatalities after a spike yesterday.
• Italian engineer's idea turns scuba masks into ventilators, saving lives
• 'All hell breaks loose' at New York Hospital [[CNN via anonymous doctor)... triage seems likely
• WHO says not too late for US to reverse course
• NY's Cuomo says social distancing efforts are working to slow spread
• Experts warns that New Orleans is next US epicenter
• Experts warn US death peak may still be three weeks out
• Egg sales have soared 44%, prices 'skyrocketing'
• Idaho to receive lockdown announcement
• White house, congress reach deal on $2 Trillion relief package; increases unemployment cap to $600 a week, extend unemployment to self employed, gig, and freelance workers, hints at $1,200 stimulus checks. As of 5PM Wednesday, republicans find the unemployment benefits too generous.
• SpacceX making and donating hand sanitizer, face shields
• Coronavirus dents NASA's 2024 return to moon
• Nevada governor limits use of antimalaria drugs for cornoavirus, hoping to prevent hoarding and protect people who needed it prior to the pandemic.
• India bans export of hydroxychloroquine, malaria drug that shows promise against cronoavirus... UK sees a shortage emerge as a result.
• UK's youngest fatality is a 21 year old female with no prior conditions
• UK Subway system fills just one day after lockdown order was given
• UK cornonavirus mass home testing to be made available 'within days'
• Britan's Prince Charles tests positive; met with fellow royals including the Queen prior to test
• UK doctors threaten to quit NHS over shoragage of protective equipment
• More than 170k Britons heed call for 250k to sign up for NHS volunteer army
• Canada/Trudeau's wife test positive
• Canada passes $82 Billion relief package
• Canadians told to expect $2k CA per month within 10 days for the next 4 months
• Toronto is gathering cellphone location data from telecoms to find out where people are still congregating
• Brazil's Bolsonaro maintains that cronoavirus is a media hoax
• Hospital that tested Bolsonaro will not reveal identities of two positive cases, Bolsonaro will not show his results.
• Quarantined Brazilians protest against Bolsonaro from windows
• Brazil: Drug traffickers in one of Rio de Janeiro’s best known favelas have imposed a coronavirus curfew, amid growing fears over the impact the virus could have on some of Brazil’s poorest citizens.
• New Zealand enters full lockdown
• Chechnya calls for execution of quarantine breakers
• India threatens to shoot on sight if lockdown orders disobeyed
• Czechs make masks mandatory
• One Third of humanity now under virus lockdown
• More people on lockdown today than were alive in WW2
• Snowden warns: 'the surveillance states and use of high tech [measure to combat the outbreak] will outlast the virus
• Putin postpones vote to extend his rule
• Sudden loss of smell or taste emerging as early warning symptom
• Icelandic scientists claim to have found forty mutations of the coronavirus
• Scientists say the cornonavirusis not mutating quickly and might respond to a single vaccine

[Richard]

Look on the back of a Lysol can,it has had disinfects Coronavirus for at least 5 years,this is a new strain or variation.

[Honky Tonk]

Look on the back of a Lysol can,it has had disinfects Coronavirus for at least 5 years,this is a new strain or variation.

Where can I find a Lysol can?

[Richard]

Where can I find a Lysol can?

Here put your bid in over $25 per can,they cannot charge for price gouging when it is bidding,insanity.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lysol-Neutr....c100935.m2460

[Zacha341]

Does that mean it does not work [[Lysol spray) on this variant of Coro?

The price gougers on eBay are going nuts!! I saw three cans going for $39 with bids still going. I have a couple of coveted cans I've had a while...

I best go hide them.

Look on the back of a Lysol can,it has had disinfects Coronavirus for at least 5 years,this is a new strain or variation.

[Lowell]

Finally a glimmer of good news

[Zacha341]

Baby/ body wipes are now a fortune! Not to mention $18+ just to ship a 3-pack!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/HUGGIES-Ref...60e5419e4a83cc

[Zacha341]

Coronavirus spreading faster in here than nearly anywhere in the US...

https://www.bridgemi.com/michigan-health-watch/coronavirus-spreading-faster-detroit-nearly-anywhere-united-states

Someone on another blog compared our numbers to be heading to those like New York. Thoughts?

[Dan Wesson]

Coronavirus spreading faster in here than nearly anywhere in the US...

https://www.bridgemi.com/michigan-health-watch/coronavirus-spreading-faster-detroit-nearly-anywhere-united-states

Someone on another blog compared our numbers to be heading to those like New York. Thoughts?

Lots of sources. Lots of doom and gloom. click,click.click

[Bigdd]

Coronavirus spreading faster in here than nearly anywhere in the US...

https://www.bridgemi.com/michigan-health-watch/coronavirus-spreading-faster-detroit-nearly-anywhere-united-states

Someone on another blog compared our numbers to be heading to those like New York. Thoughts?

Well, we are ramping up testing, like New York did. And just because we are finally "confirming" a lot more cases doesn't mean they are "spreading" at that rate.

[Atticus]

Well, we are ramping up testing, like New York did. And just because we are finally "confirming" a lot more cases doesn't mean they are "spreading" at that rate.

Let’s not sugarcoat it. Detroit has more than its fair share of the population that is living in low income situations, which being low income often leads to life situations causing obesity and other underlying health problems. This virus is going to hit here harder than most places because of that. While the virus can kill and hospitalize anyone, the people in poorer health tend to fare worse. That is both what is, and what will be happening here.

Detroit is going to fare worse from this virus than the national average because of the immense poverty in the city. Just about every crisis hits the poor harder, this is no different.

[Lowell]

DETROIT-WINDSOR METRO + MICHIGAN

• Detroit COVID19 cases rising faster than initially in NYC
• Whitmer says she sent request to president for major disaster declaration
• MI system for filing unemployment claims is overwhelmed, but ‘keep trying’ state says.
• death trajectory is steepest in the world, Michigan’s is steepest in the USA [[ny times). Could be an artifact of testing numbers; suspicion surrounding transparency of red states.
• Novi nurse confesses of situation at her hospital, called in on her off shift, intubated 2 patients within 30 minutes; her patient took the last available ventilator at 7AM. Supplies are gone, out of tylenol, fentanyl, life and death triage is in effect. N95 masks are assigned to nurses for the entire year. https://www.instagram.com/tv/B-GX-D1DKJ_/
• Southeast Michigan hospitals overwhelmed with COVID19 patients will begin shifting them to other hospitals around the state
• Ford to restart US truck plants in April to beat pandemic linked cash squeeze
• Canada tells US not to put troops at border during pandemic citing that the strategy would damage relations between the allies

REST OF THE WORLD

• 521k confirmed cases, 12.5k deaths, 122k recoveries, ~386k open cases. Numbers subject to nations’ transparency and testing bandwidth.
• Many countries touting a ‘3 week’ timeline for the virus crisis some consider the apex to be 3 weeks out, others expect to be through the pandemic by then.
• Concerns of second waves resulting from early lockdown continue to circulate
• NYC state to allow two patients to share a single ventilator
• NYC hospitals officially deemed ‘overwhelmed’
• Fauci warns nation ‘prepare for outbreaks like New York’s in other states’
• US Doctors warn, complain that COVID19 death numbers are not consistent
• US stocks rise after historically high jobless claims; bad news offset by coronavirus relief bil clearing the Senate 960. The House aims to pass the bill with a vocal vote tomorrow, 3/27, at 9am EST. President has indicated that he will sign immediately. .
• James Dyson designs new ventilator in 10 days, is making 15k for patients
• Immigration Detainees are on a hunger strike, demanding release in lieu of crisis
• Protestors block lanes on the Mexico side of southern border requesting Mexico institute more coronavirus screenings for southbound travelers.
• Brazilian gangsters continue to impose curfews as President Bolsonaro calls coronavirus a ‘little flu’
• UK to offer self-employed 80% of earnings
• Neil Ferguson, UK expert who inspired lockdown says Britain's health system will now cope, Neil Ferguson admits his initial projections for US and UK fatalities were wrong, revises model.
• More than 500k sign up to be NHS volunteers, surging past the 250k request.
• Britain now the largest contributor to international effort to find vaccine
• UK police use drones and roadblocks to enforce lockdown
• UK police granted authority to use force to enforce lockdown
• Liquor stores added to essential retailer list as booze files off UK shelves
• France: Early release of 5k 6k Inmates to prevent spread in prison
• French death dally much higher than official data according to health official
• Italy suffers setback to hopes its epidemic may be in retreat; numbers trickle higher on Thursday
• Italy has banned funerals
• Italian workers protest against open factories, press government to revise list of industries allowed to remain open
• Soccer game attended by 40k Italians likely made city an epicenter
• South Africa will be tracking cellphones to fight the Covid19 virus
• India passes $22 Billion stimulus package for its poor
• India price locks grain and rice amid lockdown
• Indians in quarantine struggle with hygiene supply shortages,
• Police in India beat people in to submission as lockdown bites
• Warring sides in Yemen back calls for coronavirus ceasefire
• Moscow to close all nonfood shops as Tokyo warns against expulsion of cases
• China to temporarily bar entry of foreigners
• Watchdogs claim China’s media censorship costs thousands of lives
• China in Coronavirus propaganda push as US ties worsen
• G20 Leaders convene remotely, US and China set aside differences
• WHO Director-General calls on G20 to ‘Fight, Unite, and Ignite’ against COVID19
• G20 Leaders pledge $5 Trillion to overcome crisis
• Fresh Produce will become increasingly scarce in Europe, suppliers warn, as the pandemic hampers the global movement of produce and the people needed to harvest
• Coronavirus has been detected in wastewater in the Netherlands according to RIVM research.

[drjeff]

Yeah,.. there's been lots of Covid's. SARS, MERS, and even EBOLA are all covids.

The actual name of this virus is SARS-COV-2. Covid-19 is the name of the condition or disease it ends up causing.

It is a bat virus,... and like SARS and MERS,.. it is a genetically engineered bio-weapon. But unlike SARS,. this has a couple things added to it. An aids envelope that allows it to spread across most all species,.. and a "Gain of Function" component,.. meant to increase it's contagiousness. [[Instead of 1.3,.. it's 2-2.5,... or nearly double as infectious as Flu)

Ebola is absolutely not a Coronavirus. It is a Filovirus. SARS-CoV2 is also not a bioweapon for fuck's sake. The RNA sequence is clearly the same as that naturally found in bats. Also, the other gibberish is wrong as well. There are hundreds if not thousands of these viruses in the wild. They crossed into humans because of human contact, which would not usually occur with the species of bat they are native to.

[Lowell]

Ebola is absolutely not a Coronavirus. It is a Filovirus. SARS-CoV2 is also not a bioweapon for fuck's sake. The RNA sequence is clearly the same as that naturally found in bats. Also, the other gibberish is wrong as well. There are hundreds if not thousands of these viruses in the wild. They crossed into humans because of human contact, which would not usually occur with the species of bat they are native to.

Thank you.