Quote Originally Posted by Bham1982 View Post
Unless you're talking about living right on Woodward on Campus Martius, I can't think of any "great urban qualities" for residential neighborhoods in SE MI. No place in Detroit proper is really "conventionally urban" [[walkable, corner stores and the like, non-poor using transit).



"Attractive" is subjective, "urban" isn't. Yes, many people will find Novi or Huntington Woods more attractive living than the Upper East Side or Park Slope.

But the least urban corner of Brooklyn [[whether gentrified or not) has much better urban bones than the most urban neighborhood in Detroit.

If you go out to, say, Bay Ridge, or Brighton Beach, the level of urbanity, pedestrian and transit share, and street-level retail, is off the charts compared to anywhere in Michigan.

Bay Ridge and Brighton Beach have have higher density and pedestrian traffic than Lakeview in Chicago [[the most urban/dense Chicago neighborhood). How can Detroit have better urbanity than the most urban corners of Chicago?
Why do we constantly fall into this hole of comparing Detroit to New York and Chicago? They are probably the two most urban cities in America, Detroit is so far behind them. This started as a conversation about young people coming from the suburbs, which is true and is a trend that Detroit can capitalize on. There's no need to try to compare Detroit to these cities, we just need to have better urban environments than the surrounding areas.