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    Quote Originally Posted by Honky Tonk View Post
    Where about in Detroit did you say you lived?
    This, regional/mass/public transit, literally has to do with the metro area in which I do live. I also use DDOT from time to time because I live near Detroit and ONE REGIONAL PASS will make using it even better and easier.

    Where I live matters little to the overarching sentiment that we need better public transit in the region and SMART/DDOT partnerships are a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dtowncitylover View Post
    This, regional/mass/public transit, literally has to do with the metro area in which I do live. I also use DDOT from time to time because I live near Detroit and ONE REGIONAL PASS will make using it even better and easier.

    Where I live matters little to the overarching sentiment that we need better public transit in the region and SMART/DDOT partnerships are a good thing.

    So, you don't live in Detroit, but I, who happen to have lived in Detroit for 57 years, and cover just about every section of the City @ least twice a week, am anacedotal, because you think I "saw a bus last week with 3 people on it"? Yet I'm supposed to buy into your public transportation emotionally charged logic, and cough up more tax money because you don't want to be alone? Try car pooling, call Uber or Lyft, see what they charge. This way I can have my car and don't have to susidize your transportation, and you can have a direct ride to and from wherever it is you're going. Don't be a burden on others. Learn to take care of yourself.


    Quote Originally Posted by dtowncitylover View Post
    No, I don't really care to. I don't really care for my commute and the time I've wasted alone because of my unique commute. I don't really care that my car depreciates in value every time I drive it. I don't really care for our high insurance rates. Or the monthly car payment. Or the yearly tabs payment and inevitable insurance hikes. I don't really care for the $150 yearly I spend on oil changes. Or the probably $3,000-5000 extra I will spend over its life for other maintenance. And I don't care for any future emotional toll that may happen should I get into a nasty accident because that's how life goes sometimes.
    Last edited by Honky Tonk; August-27-18 at 01:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honky Tonk View Post
    So, you don't live in Detroit, but I, who happen to have lived in Detroit for 57 years, and cover just about every section of the City @ least twice a week, am anacedotal because you think I "saw a bus last week with 3 people on it"? Yet I'm supposed to buy into your public transportation emotionally charged logic, and cough up more tax money because you don't want to be alone? Try car pooling, call Uber or Lyft, see what they charge. This way I can have my car and don't have to susidize your transportation, and you can have a direct ride to and from wherever you're going. Don't be a burden on others.
    Or you could go live in the middle of nowhere UP if you don't like living in a society that much.

    You still don't seem to understand that your car-centric lifestyle choices are subsidized many more times over than transit subsidies. But please, tell me more about how much we're hurting your car feelings. Your car tears are extra salty today. Mmmmmmmmmmmmm!

    It's funny, I'm not telling you you have to take transit. Yet here you are telling bus riders to buy a car or else [[they can't get to work? doctor's? library? school? how's that economy going to work? think everyone can simply pay the $7-30 dollars for a Lyft ride?) I'm just saying we need our levels of transit spending on par with road and highway spending and we need our funding mechanisms for transit changed to sales taxes, which is going to be a feat in and of itself.

    You are also a burden on others.
    Last edited by dtowncitylover; August-27-18 at 01:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dtowncitylover View Post
    Or you could go live in the middle of nowhere UP if you don't like living in a society that much.
    Clutching @ straws much, are we? Don't forget, I live here and you don't. I pay City taxes so we have a General Fund. Auto owners pay taxes @ the pump, [[which originally was set up to apply those to road repair, but now go into the "General Fund" abyss) pay for registration, pay for plates, [[both have been raised to fund road repair recently). On top of that, I pay taxes on the purchase of the vehicle. So please, tell me how I'm being susidized? Because they're "Federal Funds"? We already went through that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honky Tonk View Post
    Clutching @ straws much, are we? Don't forget, I live here and you don't. I pay City taxes so we have a General Fund. Auto owners pay taxes @ the pump, [[which originally was set up to apply those to road repair, but now go into the "General Fund" abyss) pay for registration, pay for plates, [[both have been raised to fund road repair recently). On top of that, I pay taxes on the purchase of the vehicle. So please, tell me how I'm being susidized? Because they're "Federal Funds"? We already went through that.
    I don't care where you live. We're talking about regional transit and SMART and DDOT's noble efforts to collaborate on issues like fare collecting and streamlining it to make it easier to ride both systems. Thank God.

    Again, I don't care that you drive. You only seem to care about yourself, though.

    And some of those taxes go toward MDOT's preference for car-centric development and sprawl and continued investments for roads and highways. Therefore, you continue to be burden on us because we have to keep maintaining the roads and highways you drive on.

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