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Some of nature's more beautiful moments in Detroit are created by the spring and autumn fogs that rise over the city. The autumn fog season arrived in Detroit today, rolling in around 7 AM and with burn-off, shown here, starting around 10 AM. Ship horns are calling out to each other all over the Straits of the Detroit.

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    Default Weren't painted lines on the road invented by Edward Hines?

    Under Sunday March 29th, his guy claims it was thought up by a female dr. from Palm Springs;
    http://www.ieweekly.com/cms/story/de..._rundown/2201/

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_N._Hines

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    yes. the first lines were used in Warren Michigan. at least the FOG LINE was. im not 100% about the center line...

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    I suppose that it was possible for the Doc to have thought of the lines there in California. People didn't communicate as easily as we are accustomed to now, or even 50 years ago. Back in the day, ideas such as that weren't broadcast nationally.

    A good case in point was the thread on the old forum regarding the found AAA sign. Highway markers and road standards were varied throughout the nation. Same for roads, regional differences in grading, paving, etc.

    Within the link below is a biography of Dr.McCarroll, with a mention of Mr. Hines, as well as the same conjecture found above:
    Tom Patterson also reported that the centerline idea had been proposed by Wayne County, Michigan, Highway Commissioner Edward Hines and utilized as early as 1911.- Mr. Patterson also mentioned another earlier road divider was a stripe of white stones on a Mexico City highway built by the Spanish conquistadors during the 1500s. Ideas and information moved much more slowly in those pre-internet days, allowing the reasonable conclusion that Doctor June invented the centerline idea independently in Indio without any knowledge of Commissioner Hines, Wayne County, Michigan, Highway Commission practices, or 16th-century Mexican history. From that one mile of 4-inch wide stripe on Indio Boulevard sprang the myriad of colors of stripes and other markings on our streets and highways to enhance our motoring safety.
    http://www.billyholcomb.com/fall_doins_6008_handout.htm
    Last edited by Stosh; April-05-09 at 04:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ltdave View Post
    yes. the first lines were used in Warren Michigan. at least the FOG LINE was. im not 100% about the center line...
    LMAO.... yes Ltdave.... one can always be sure about Warren, but not so sure about Center Line....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stosh View Post
    I suppose that it was possible for the Doc to have thought of the lines there in California. People didn't communicate as easily as we are accustomed to now, or even 50 years ago. Back in the day, ideas such as that weren't broadcast nationally.
    Island of Maui ... 13th Century CE ... High Chief Pi`ilani decreed white stones to be placed along the coastal side of Pi`ilani Highway to keep night travellers from walking off the sea cliffs into the ocean. Nowadays they have a few signs & guardrails:



    Detroit's white lines came later, no doubt...

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    From the MDOT website:

    Widely recognized as one of the great innovators in highway development, [Edward] Hines... conceived the centerline for highways, an invention which has been called the most important single traffic safety device in the history of auto transportation.


    http://www.michigan.gov/mdot/0,1607,...6420--,00.html

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    Island of Maui ... 13th Century CE ... High Chief Pi`ilani decreed white stones to be placed along the coastal side of Pi`ilani Highway to keep night travellers from walking off the sea cliffs into the ocean. Nowadays they have a few signs & guardrails:
    Well, I guess that trumps everything else.
    Last edited by Bigb23; July-17-11 at 06:31 AM.

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    All this time I thought Hines invented the floodplain parkway...


    ...they say the most frequent calls about traffic questions from Windsorites to Detroit radio stations are inquiries about where this Hines Drive is and why it is ALWAYS closed down, LOL!

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