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[bust]

90% of MSM Trump coverage is consistently negative.

I wonder what that says about bias, considering at least 90% of all things Trump are negative.

Facts have a well-known liberal bias.

Must be why Trump assails facts.

[TKshreve]

Lot's of stuff happening in the last 24 hours or so...

David Pecker, CEO of the National Enquirer and personal friend of Donald Trump, has been given immunity by federal prosecutors in the Michael Cohen investigation:

https://www.npr.org/2018/08/24/64149...-in-cohen-case

Pecker will spill the beans to federal prosecutors about "catch and kill" payments to Karen McDougal and possibly other women on behalf of Donald Trump. Pecker is said to have a safe full of damaging information about Donald Trump obtained via Catch & Kill.


Manhattan District Attorney is investigating the Trump Organization and two of its senior executives for their possibly illegal role in the Stormy Daniels payoff. Criminal charges being considered.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/23/polit...ion/index.html


Longtime Trump Organization Chief Financial Officer Allen Weisselberg is granted immunity by federal prosecutors to testify in the Michael Cohen campaign finance criminal investigation.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/24/long...g-sources.html


Omarosa says she's "Ready to testify" in Trump impeachment proceedings:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/omarosa-m...090004882.html

NY Attorney General's Office to open state-level criminal investigation into Michael Cohen:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ap-new-...michael-cohen/


Meanwhile, now that Michael Cohen has plead guilty, the Stormy Daniels civil suit will likely resume in the next few weeks [[the judge had previous put the case on hold pending the outcome of Michael Cohen's criminal investigation). Michael Avenatti has already signaled his intent to subpoena Donald Trump to answer questions under oath in a deposition. As you recall, the Supreme Court unanimously decided back in the Clinton days that sitting Presidents are NOT immune from being deposed in civil suits. And, as you might also recall, Republicans impeached Bill Clinton for the offense of perjuring himself under oath in a civil suit.

The next few months are going to be FUN!

I think you made the original mention of the Stormy Daniels story as one of noteworty substance that would come back to rear its ugly head. Good call.

As Mueller wades closer and closer to the deepest part of Trump's swamp, it's reassuring to know that a second front has been waged on Trump. We now have the Mueller investigation plucking apart Trump's campaign crimes, and we also have Mr. Avenatti pulling at the threads of his personal business empire as well. God only knows how much wrongdoing they'll find buried in that hot mess. Time to see if Rudy can earn his paycheck. #Popcorn

[Bham1982]

I wonder what that says about bias, considering at least 90% of all things Trump are negative.

Facts have a well-known liberal bias.

Must be why Trump assails facts.

If that were true, wouldn't it mean that the MSM has a pro-Trump bias?

Certainly no rational person can say that there is something even 10% positive about having a lying, racist, traitorous, criminal, gaslighting Russian puppet squatting in the WH while facing an avalanche of felonies.

Fair, reasonable coverage should pretty much show Trump as-is, which is without any redeeming value [[unless you're Kremlin or value the destruction of the U.S.).

[Honky Tonk]

Bizarre and off topic, but sorta true. Mueller would be the "big brother" cleaning up the mess. Trump and his enablers will certainly get theirs.

But Trump cultists will never accept reality, long after Trump is dead or wasting away in federal prison.

No, my post was what you sound like. A small child threatening the kid that pushed you, consistantly, for the past 2 years. You're an expert on not acceping reality, and accusing others of doing the very same thing you do.

[Richard]

If that were true, wouldn't it mean that the MSM has a pro-Trump bias?

Certainly no rational person can say that there is something even 10% positive about having a lying, racist, traitorous, criminal, gaslighting Russian puppet squatting in the WH while facing an avalanche of felonies.

Fair, reasonable coverage should pretty much show Trump as-is, which is without any redeeming value [[unless you're Kremlin or value the destruction of the U.S.).

And of course you are willing to provide the links to the facts of your claim of your president facing an avalanche of felonies.

Or is not possible to create a workable link to the voices in your head?

As long as we are making people guilty of crimes before they are actually proven to be involved in a crime to begin with,are you leaving after your deportation hearing?

[oladub]

I wonder what that says about bias, considering at least 90% of all things Trump are negative.

Facts have a well-known liberal bias.

Must be why Trump assails facts.

In your opinion, "at least 90% of all things Trump are negative". You and 90% of corporate and billionaire owned press coverage is out of step with about half the Country that voted for Trump. That's your right but my post [[#1672) was about the corporatist press, its Democratic allies, and rapidly growing corporate censorship. A sub-point was that a few progressives are noticing it is happening to them too. Here's a quote from the Truthdig article you might have missed or disagree with.

Facebook recently announced it had partnered with the Atlantic Council in an effort to combat “fake news” on its platform [[FAIR.org, 5/21/18). An offshoot of NATO, the Council’s board of directors is a who’s who of neo-conservative hawks, including Condoleezza Rice, Colin Powell, Henry Kissinger and James Baker; CIA directors like Robert Gates, Leon Panetta and Michael Hayden; retired generals like Wesley Clark and David Petraeus; as well as senior tech executives. Forty-five percentof Americans get their news from Facebook. When an organization like the Atlantic Council decides what news we see and do not see, that is tantamount to state censorship.

These are your bedfellows. That's my point. My opinion, since you voiced yours, is that the heat under the pot is increasing. It will be too late to escape when most liberals figure that out.

President Trump, since you wondered, "expressed his own concerns about platforms’ attempts to police content. On Monday, he told Reuters that it is “dangerous” for Facebook and Twitter to limit who can and cannot speak on their platforms." -ACLU

[Richard]

^ notice how this all mimics the Hoover days?

[Honky Tonk]

^ notice how this all mimics the Hoover days?

I'm glad those days are over. I never did like that vacuum cleaner.

[Bham1982]

No, my post was what you sound like. A small child threatening the kid that pushed you, consistantly, for the past 2 years. You're an expert on not acceping reality, and accusing others of doing the very same thing you do.

Sorry, but naked projection never sounds convincing, even among the most desperate Cultists.

Join us back in reality, or resign yourself to some very difficult months ahead, as Dotard's criminal gang crumbles one-by-one. I would suggest a bunker, lots of booze, and no internet access.

[Bham1982]

And of course you are willing to provide the links to the facts of your claim of your president facing an avalanche of felonies.

Check out any major news source on the planet, and get back to us.

Or just tune into your Dear Leader. Even Dotard is talking impeachment, and claiming "everyone will be poor" when he is impeached.

[Richard]

Check out any major news source on the planet, and get back to us.

Or just tune into your Dear Leader. Even Dotard is talking impeachment, and claiming "everyone will be poor" when he is impeached.

If you crawled out of your bunker and laid off of the booze you would understand more.

Even if by sone remote chance he is impeached,you get Pences smileing face,then you will be on here looking and praying for reasons to bring trump back.

How come you did not answer my question about if you were leaving after the deportation hearing?

[Bham1982]

Even if by sone remote chance he is impeached,you get Pences smileing face,then you will be on here looking and praying for reasons to bring trump back.

Wrong, I'll happily take my chances with Pence. Pence isn't a Russian puppet, won't start a nuclear war, and isn't facing an avalanche of felonies.

I'm not against Trump because he's [[ostensibly) a "Republican", I'm against him because he's an imminent threat to my family and country. Pence is a run-of-the-mill right winger. He won't threaten my kid's future.

And who is being deported, and what is the relevance to Dotard's fate?

[Maof]

Drumpf calls off North Korea talks over "lack of progress", something he touted as a success.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-n...-idUSKCN1L91XJ

[Honky Tonk]

Wrong, I'll happily take my chances with Pence. Pence isn't a Russian puppet, won't start a nuclear war, and isn't facing an avalanche of felonies.

I'm not against Trump because he's [[ostensibly) a "Republican", I'm against him because he's an imminent threat to my family and country. Pence is a run-of-the-mill right winger. He won't threaten my kid's future.

And who is being deported, and what is the relevance to Dotard's fate?

__________

[TKshreve]

Drumpf calls off North Korea talks over "lack of progress", something he touted as a success.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-n...-idUSKCN1L91XJ

Remember hom many of his followers hinged their undying support to him on this tactical win? He got played like a two-dollar fiddle. SAD!

I suppose Korea is still enjoying the fruits of that deal though. WINNING!

[Richard]

Wrong, I'll happily take my chances with Pence. Pence isn't a Russian puppet, won't start a nuclear war, and isn't facing an avalanche of felonies.

I'm not against Trump because he's [[ostensibly) a "Republican", I'm against him because he's an imminent threat to my family and country. Pence is a run-of-the-mill right winger. He won't threaten my kid's future.

And who is being deported, and what is the relevance to Dotard's fate?

You do realize that after 2 years of desperation at trying to link your current president to the Russians has been nothing but a costly taxpayer burden with zero evidence presented.

But yet here you are still calling him a Russian puppet,I would be more inclined to view you as a Russian puppet based on your constant propaganda postings and the continued postings of things thought up in your mind only.

For the third time,are you leaving the country after your deportation hearing?

Confused on who “you” relates to?

[Richard]

Remember hom many of his followers hinged their undying support to him on this tactical win? He got played like a two-dollar fiddle. SAD!

I suppose Korea is still enjoying the fruits of that deal though. WINNING!

Not all of his “ followers” I made it clear we should have just nuked them from the start,WW3 would not have mattered as you guys feel and have been vocal sense day one about how the current president was going to bring it on anyways.

But then if that happened you guys would be crying about how millions died in the process,but at least you would have had something substantial to cry about,outside of hookers and porn stars.

[Honky Tonk]

Remember hom many of his followers hinged their undying support to him on this tactical win?

True Grits...

[Maof]

Remember hom many of his followers hinged their undying support to him on this tactical win? He got played like a two-dollar fiddle. SAD!

I suppose Korea is still enjoying the fruits of that deal though. WINNING!

I guess he spoke too soon didn't he? And N.Korea is laughing all the way.

[bust]

about half the Country that voted for Trump

Actually, according to the Federal Election Commission's final vote count, 46.09% of eligible voters voted for Trump [[compared to 48.18% for Clinton).

But according to the United States Election Project only 59.3% of eligible voters cast a vote in the 2016 presidential election.

That means 27.3% of eligible voters voted for Trump.

Also from the US Election Project, besides eligible voters, many could not vote. 3,249,802 were barred because their state prohibits voting if you've had a felony conviction. Only 54.7% of the US voting age population participated in the 2016 presidential election.

That means 25.2% of people of voting age voted for Trump.

I wonder how many of them now regret their decision.

And Trump is unpopular among young people. A quick search didn't turn up statistics limited to teenagers too young to have voted, but here are the results from a February 2018 poll of people aged 15 - 34 from AP-NORC [[A partnership between the Associated Press and the University of Chicago):

Poll: Majority of young people believe Trump is racist, dishonest and “mentally unfit” to be president
https://www.denverpost.com/2018/03/3...g-voters-poll/

So half of the country? No, far less.

[Pam]

Pence is a run-of-the-mill right winger

He's a religious extremist.

[Richard]

He's a religious extremist.

At best any debates about abortion,marriage is between man and woman,lgbt etc. would be quickly settled.

[oladub]

Actually, according to the Federal Election Commission's final vote count, 46.09% of eligible voters voted for Trump [[compared to 48.18% for Clinton).

But according to the United States Election Project only 59.3% of eligible voters cast a vote in the 2016 presidential election.

That means 27.3% of eligible voters voted for Trump.

Also from the US Election Project, besides eligible voters, many could not vote. 3,249,802 were barred because their state prohibits voting if you've had a felony conviction. Only 54.7% of the US voting age population participated in the 2016 presidential election.

That means 25.2% of people of voting age voted for Trump.

I wonder how many of them now regret their decision.

And Trump is unpopular among young people. A quick search didn't turn up statistics limited to teenagers too young to have voted, but here are the results from a February 2018 poll of people aged 15 - 34 from AP-NORC [[A partnership between the Associated Press and the University of Chicago):

Poll: Majority of young people believe Trump is racist, dishonest and “mentally unfit” to be president
https://www.denverpost.com/2018/03/3...g-voters-poll/

So half of the country? No, far less.

Bust, you're right. In post #1681, I should have written " In 2016, about half of apparently registered voters, who voted, voted for Trump" instead of "about half the Country that voted for Trump". I'm glad I didn't misspell anything. Trump won.

Regarding how many "regret their decision", according to Rasmussen's daily poll of likely voters, 46% approve of Trump, 53% disapprove. That hasn't changed much since March except Trump occasionally touches 50% approval in that same poll. Considering the 24/7 barrage of corporatist filtered news, it's surprising his approval rating isn't much worse. Maybe Goebbels was wrong. Also, Hillary was still the other candidate and her ratings have gone down more than Trump's. Remember, the choice was super war hawk, snooty [["deplorables"), relatively open borders Hillary or bombastic Trump who hasn't started new wars and has put working Americans back to work.

Yes, young people, on average, always vote more liberal but they eventually get older, and wiser. I wonder if liberals focus more on what they are directed to focus on at the moment, Oprah's guest's opinion, censored corporatist news, Rachel's smarmy but cool remarks, etc., while conservatives look at a bigger picture consistent with having more life experience. For instance, The Hogg boy's understanding of proportionality is abysmal. Students and teachers are, per capita, much less likely to be shot than average Americans and infinitesimally less likely to be shot than the average person in America's twenty largest Democratic cities.
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Update - not related to the above. This just came in and is why American workers like Trump and why some monied interests gaming the system hate Trump-

"President Trump renewed his criticism of U.S. Postal Service policies this week, directing the agency to get rid of international discounts that can make it cheaper to ship goods to a U.S. customer from China than from an American warehouse. The decades-old discounts were established by a United Nations agency to help people in developing countries afford international mail. Now they mean a Chinese company often can ship a bike part or a T-shirt to a customer in Des Moines for a fraction of the cost paid by a shipper in New York."

[Jimaz]

Trump's World of Fiction is Undermining Our Democracy [[3:27) culminates with pragmatic wisdom.

• TimothySnyder.org

[Bham1982]

Yes, young people, on average, always vote more liberal but they eventually get older, and wiser.

Trump isn't Conservative and his opponents aren't Liberal, no matter how much you parrot your Kremlin-sanctioned nonsense.

Trump is an enemy of the U.S., a Russian puppet, two-bit gangster, lifetime scam artist, habitual liar, ignoramus, racist, and idiot. His opposition consists of those who find such characteristics unbecoming.