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[aj3647]

Being born here isn't enough to make you "Natural Born". It just makes you a citizen.

Kamala doesn't appear to be Natural Born.

According to who? You? What's your legal basis for saying that? Because the courts have ruled otherwise...

In 2009 in Ankeny v. Governor,^[62] the Indiana Court of Appeals reaffirmed that persons born within the borders of the United States are "natural born Citizens", regardless of the citizenship of their parents. The court referred to the case of Wong Kim Ark, and provides a compilation of the arguments pertaining to this topic.A clarification to this interpretation was made in 2010, where a three-judge panel of the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit held that natural born citizens can lose their citizenship if their territory of birth later ceases to be U.S. territory. The case involved a Philippine-born litigant who could not claim U.S. citizenship on the basis of his parents, who lived all their lives in the Philippines, because they were born while the Philippines was U.S. territory prior to being given its independence. The Courts for the Second, Third, and Ninth Circuits have also held that birth in the Philippines at a time when the country was a territory of the United States does not constitute birth "in the United States" under the Citizenship Clause, and thus did not give rise to United States citizenship.^[63]
In a 2012 New York case, Strunk v. N.Y. State Board of Elections,^[4] the pro se plaintiff challenged Barack Obama's presence on the presidential ballot, based on his own interpretation that "natural born citizen" required the president "to have been born on United States soil and have two United States born parents" [[emphasis added). To this the Court responded, "Article II, section 1, clause 5 does not state this. No legal authority has ever stated that the Natural Born Citizen clause means what plaintiff Strunk claims it says. ... Moreover, President Obama is the sixth U.S. President to have had one or both of his parents not born on U.S. soil". The opinion then listed Andrew Jackson, James Buchanan, Chester A. Arthur, Woodrow Wilson, and Herbert Hoover.^[4]

She was born on American soil. She is natural-born. I'll throw around whatever terms I like because they are 100% accurate. Cry about it if it bothers you, I don't care.

[Bigdd]

According to who? You? What's your legal basis for saying that? Because the courts have ruled otherwise...

Not sure you read those. They don't say what you just claimed they do. The Philippine one was talking about citizenship, not the nat born variety.

[rb336]

Not sure you read those. They don't say what you just claimed they do. The Philippine one was talking about citizenship, not the nat born variety.

It is exceptionally clear that he has read them. Your comment makes it abundantly clear that you either a) did not read them or b) lack the intellect to comprehend what you read.

[aj3647]

It is exceptionally clear that he has read them. Your comment makes it abundantly clear that you either a) did not read them or b) lack the intellect to comprehend what you read.

He got his law degree from Trump University. Same place he got his Epidemiology degree.

[Bigdd]

It is exceptionally clear that he has read them. Your comment makes it abundantly clear that you either a) did not read them or b) lack the intellect to comprehend what you read.

The conclusions in the article aren't supported by the links they themselves reference.


As an example,.. they state in the article that,..

" United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 US. 649, anyone born on U.S. soil and subject to its jurisdiction is a natural born citizen, regardless of parental citizenship. "

But if you bother to open the link,.. the case doesn't say that at all. Instead it says this,... [[The conclusion at the very end)
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/169/649/

The court ordered Wong Kim Ark to be discharged, upon the ground that he was a citizen of the United States. 1 Fed.Rep. 382. The United States appealed to this court, and the appellee was admitted to bail pending the appeal.

Notice it says the court concluded that Wong Kim Ark was a CITIZEN,.. and never declares him a Natural Born Citizen.

You can't just read the headlines.


And the Harvard Law Review is just a newspaper written by students,.. it's not a court of law. And that last link is just silly. A phony Fact Check by an anonymous writer at the Socialist rag USA today. Hardly a source of news, let alone a court of law.

This is a matter for the courts to decide.

That said,.. it's not an issue at the moment. Sen Harris is a dream opponent for anyone.

But this sort of thing DOES need to be decided at some point. It's come up a lot lately.