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    http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2017/...9321497551182/

    I'm surprised this action didn't receive more discussion from the media, as I see it as a direct shot at the President. A 98-2 vote is rare these days, and I think Tillerson's explanation is exactly why it did pass 98-2. Even Republicans speaking publicly for him are secretly jumping ship. It also brings up the effects the Russian investigation and other lunacies of this administration may have long-term when it comes to eroding the powers of the Executive branch.

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    The two votes against increased sanctions were those of Rand Paul and Bernie Sanders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oladub View Post
    The two votes against increased sanctions were those of Rand Paul and Bernie Sanders.
    Sounds about right.

    Something tells me that deep down, Bernie isn't buying the Russia BS either [[seeing it for what it really is, a distraction by Hillbots) and is only towing the line to appease the Democrats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bong-Man View Post
    http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2017/...9321497551182/
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    This exemplifies the deep state as again they try to weaken the presidency and it's powers if it goes against their desires, not the countries interests.

    If Mueller is expanding his investigation into D.T.'s business holdings, I hope he is willing to look at other prominent Russian dealings.

    Starting with H.R.C. okaying the deal for U.S. uranium mining interests to be sold to a Russian company and the Clinton foundations enrichment with a donation from the purchaser.
    How about Biden son's contracts with a Ukranian Oil company? Or Harry Reid's son's involvement with a Chinese Solar Company. Don't forget Tillerson's Exxon involvement and his involvement over Russia sanction violations. What about Podesta's involvment in a Russian company with ties to the Kremlin that pumped $35million into a small "green energy" startup with the ok of H.R.C.

    There's plenty of fish to fry. But they keep fishing the same fishing hole hoping for a catch.
    By keeping the president in check and preventing his policies from going into effect, lawmakers protect their vital interest of making $$$.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMan View Post

    Starting with H.R.C. okaying the deal for U.S. uranium mining interests to be sold to a Russian company and the Clinton foundations enrichment with a donation from the purchaser.
    Snopes debunked this conspiracy theory:
    http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinto...m-russia-deal/

    1) The Uranium One deal was not Clinton’s to veto or approve
    2) Despite transfer of ownership, the uranium remained in the U.S.
    3) The timing of most of the donations to the Clinton Foundation does not match

    Why should Robert Mueller waste his time investigating Right Wing conspiracy theories? Let me guess, next he should investigate Pizzagate? You know, just because you read something on InfoWars doesn't make it true.


    As for your "Deep State" Right Wing conspiracy theory talking point: Robert Mueller was appointed by Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein. Who appointed Rod Rosenstein to be Deputy AG? Was it Obama? Clinton? Oh wait it was Donald J Trump. Dude was literally hand-picked by Trump Himself. ZOMG Donald Trump is part of the Deep State!
    Last edited by aj3647; July-21-17 at 09:16 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aj3647 View Post
    Snopes debunked this conspiracy theory:
    http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinto...m-russia-deal/

    1) The Uranium One deal was not Clinton’s to veto or approve
    2) Despite transfer of ownership, the uranium remained in the U.S.
    3) The timing of most of the donations to the Clinton Foundation does not match

    Why should Robert Mueller waste his time investigating Right Wing conspiracy theories? Let me guess, next he should investigate Pizzagate? You know, just because you read something on InfoWars doesn't make it true.


    As for your "Deep State" Right Wing conspiracy theory talking point: Robert Mueller was appointed by Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein. Who appointed Rod Rosenstein to be Deputy AG? Was it Obama? Clinton? Oh wait it was Donald J Trump. Dude was literally hand-picked by Trump Himself. ZOMG Donald Trump is part of the Deep State!
    So Snopes is the new standard eh? Hillary's state dept approved the deal. There is a lot of debate about the Snopes site.

    As far as a right wing deep state, who said it was just the right wing? I hope this investigation brings congress and the lobbyists workings to light. There are a lot of Rich "public servants"

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMan View Post
    So Snopes is the new standard eh? Hillary's state dept approved the deal. There is a lot of debate about the Snopes site.
    They provided a detailed, point-by-point rebuttal of the conspiracy theory and provided sources. Do you care to dispute those points, or are you simply going to attack the source without justification?

    Ah yes, "there is a lot of debate" about Snopes. Is that equivalent of Trump's "some people are saying?"

    Fine. Forget Snopes then. Here's another debunking from the Pulitzer Prize-winning Politifact.com.

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...inton-got-pai/

    Facts matter. Evidence matters. If you want to make claims, back them up with sources.

    It doesn't matter. No amount of facts or evidence is going to dissuade you from believing what you choose to believe, even if what you believe is objectively wrong. We live in Trump World now, where facts don't matter anymore. Reality is whatever Donald Trump and Fox News and Alex Jones says it is.

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    Meanwhile, today in Trump World, Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort [[dubbed the "Florida White House" because Trump spends so much time there) has applied for 70 H-2B foreign worker visas. During "Made in America" week, no less.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/mar-a-la...-america-week/

    Trump's private resort asked for the visas so they could hire 15 housekeepers, 20 cooks and 35 waiters from foreign countries to work at the premiere Trump-owned property.

    I guess he couldn't find Americans to do those jobs? Didn't want to raise wages to attract qualified American workers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aj3647 View Post
    Meanwhile, today in Trump World, Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort [[dubbed the "Florida White House" because Trump spends so much time there) has applied for 70 H-2B foreign worker visas. During "Made in America" week, no less.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/mar-a-la...-america-week/

    Trump's private resort asked for the visas so they could hire 15 housekeepers, 20 cooks and 35 waiters from foreign countries to work at the premiere Trump-owned property.

    I guess he couldn't find Americans to do those jobs? Didn't want to raise wages to attract qualified American workers?
    Let's hope the press finds time from the Russia story to ask.

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    Oh Great! Another Wall Street er in the White House;

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/21/u...secretary.html

    T's advisors are as!#$%es!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMan View Post
    Let's hope the press finds time from the Russia story to ask.
    Trump hires 70 foreigners to staff his private resort. #MAGA #AmericaFirst

    Maybe he'll import them from the same countries where he and Ivanka have their signature clothing brands produced.

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