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    Quote Originally Posted by takascar View Post
    1. Hillary is a shill for Wall Street and refuses to promise to break up the big banks 2. The Clinton Foundation has received millions of dollars from major corporations that send our jobs overseas and are pushing the TPP to finish off the Middle Class in America. She was a major designer and supporter of it and only changed her tune [[only her tune - not her beliefs) when she put her finger into the wind and saw that people were enraged about it. 3. Hillary exhibits unAmerican attitudes. Namely, saying "No, we CANT", instead of "Yes WE CAN have single payer". 4. Hillary is an opportunist who has a about as much sincerity and credibility as a con-man and murderer doing life in prison [[where she may end up). Many people can't stand her brand of phoney. I could go on, but thats a start. Bernie in '16 !!!!
    Thank you for your explanation. I'm leery of Hillary as well, but the pickins are slim.
    Last edited by Cincinnati_Kid; March-12-16 at 11:49 AM.

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    Do you folks think your vote counts? All the super delegates so far are in Hillary's pocket. Obviously they don't care that Bernie won Michigan.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Democratic_Party_superdelegates,_2016


    Suckers!
    Last edited by noggin; March-12-16 at 05:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noggin View Post
    Do you folks think your vote counts? All the super delegates so far are in Hillary's pocket. Obviously they don't care that Bernie won Michigan.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Democratic_Party_superdelegates,_2016


    Suckers!
    The idea that everything in a democracy is 'one man, one vote' is wrong. Most modern democracies are parliamentary -- where you elect representatives. They vote. You don't. See Canada and most of western Europe.

    Of course in the US, we see this in the Senate. Its not one-man, one-vote. Its one-state, one-vote. This was done intentionally. Populism [[see Sanders, Trump) is usually impulsive and tends to trounce minority rights. These limits on direct democracy were intentional.

    The parties are not simply vote-counting machines. They are citizens acting together. One-man, one-vote is not the only way to make decisions.

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    It would seem very unlikely free trade is going to be "reversed" and protectionism, through a number of new tariffs, is going to be revived should either Bernie or Trump get elected. I would think there is a better chance of getting tariffs passed by a democratic congress. Regardless I wonder how many of the Trump supporters, or even Sanders for that matter, are even thinking about their Congress and Senate votes. Or are they just figuring their new president will do what they want with, as Trump would say, "his superior negotiating skills."

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