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    Seventy million dollars in investment; not subsidized; nine proposals for the area......how can anyone seriously argue that the city does not have true momentum? And this is so soon after the Brewster announcement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DetroiterOnTheWestCoast View Post
    Seventy million dollars in investment; not subsidized; nine proposals for the area......how can anyone seriously argue that the city does not have true momentum? And this is so soon after the Brewster announcement.
    I'll take the bait. It's quite simple to argue against this momentum. I would offer to take you for a car ride through the city and let what we see do the talking. The positives can be seen in 5 minutes but the jaw dropping negatives might take awhile. Also, the continued deterioration of most neighborhoods coupled with looming overall population loss don't really help your obvious momentum argument. Just being realistic.
    Last edited by TTime; May-06-15 at 06:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTime View Post
    I'll take the bait. It's quite simple to argue against this momentum. I would offer to take you for a car ride through the city and let what we see do the talking. The positives can be seen in 5 minutes but the jaw dropping negatives might take awhile. Also, the continued deterioration of most neighborhoods coupled with looming overall population loss don't really help your obvious momentum argument. Just being realistic.
    "Momentum" does not mean that there are not serious issues and continuing deterioration and population loss in much of the city. But for a long long time many have argued that nothing could be done without substantial subsidies. And every new project seemed to take forever to launch, and have subsidies involved. However, that is no longer the case - so apparently something has changed. I'd certainly say that there is some momentum because each new project seems to add to the demand and in fact make subsequent projects easier, not more difficult.
    Last edited by DetroiterOnTheWestCoast; May-06-15 at 07:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DetroiterOnTheWestCoast View Post
    "Momentum" does not mean that there are not serious issues and continuing deterioration and population loss in much of the city. But for a long long time many have argued that nothing could be done without substantial subsidies. And every new project seemed to take forever to launch, and have subsidies involved. However, that is no longer the case - so apparently something has changed. I'd certainly say that there is some momentum because each new project seems to add to the demand and in fact make subsequent projects easier, not more difficult.
    I can't speak to the breakdown of subsidized vs nonsubsidized projects and whether or not projects will be completed quicker than the past but you make some fair points. There are definitely some nice projects in the works and time will tell whether or not they all pan out.
    Last edited by TTime; May-06-15 at 07:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTime View Post
    I'll take the bait. It's quite simple to argue against this momentum. I would offer to take you for a car ride through the city and let what we see do the talking. The positives can be seen in 5 minutes but the jaw dropping negatives might take awhile. Also, the continued deterioration of most neighborhoods coupled with looming overall population loss don't really help your obvious momentum argument. Just being realistic.
    Some parts of the city have momentum in one direction, some parts in another. But it is pretty clear that greater Downtown is currently on an upswing.

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