Sen. Bernie Sanders Enters Presidential Race

[Pam]

Whatever did happen at the Nevada convention though?

Check out the link I posted above. There's lots of other stuff on You Tube. Here's one:


https://youtu.be/435x0dQ5Lzg

[Pam]

I've watched a bunch of videos from Nevada and there was one where a dude did pick up a chair, but he was immediately stopped from throwing it by the people next to him. So it never happened. Shame on the media outlets that repeated this lie and couldn't be bothered to interview people that were actually there. I guess journalism and democracy are both dead.

[Pam]

Official statement from Sanders campaign about Nevada:

https://berniesanders.com/press-rele...tement-nevada/

[Pam]

Bernie wins Oregon, ties it in KY.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/n...-election-2016

[Zacha341]

Too bad Sanders plans and promises are unsustainable unless everyone is taxed beyond death [[inheritance taxes too)! Including the 'accessible' rich [[read mid and upper middle-class)! The true upper power elite never had to endure the consequences of their rulings, mandates, laws and the like.

[Pam]

Good article about Nevada:

http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/05/...-averse-media/

[old guy]

Zacha, a large number of Bernies ideas are sustainable, somewhat more possible than the current policies. It is a tough sell, but realistic if you're willing to actually listen to the entire message he's attempting to explain. It makes sense, if you realize where our money is going, and where it could or should go to help a greater number of people rather than a small number of people.

Personaly, I think a number of people living a good or even a decent life would be a good thing. I believe that Bernie is intelligent enough and has the integrity to take money that is ill spent and utilize it to help the general populace, which would help me, and I'd like that.

Obviously congress would have to be on board, and or the people would need to insist on change.

It's time, the money is available if we stop giving it to the people that already control it. The way we're currently living isn't sustainable for most of the population.

[Pam]

Add Kentucky to the list of states with possible election fraud:

http://jackpineradicals.org/showthre...ry-Bernie-wins!

[Jimaz]

Attachment 30482
Ralph Nader - Bernie Sanders Should Stay in Democratic Race

• The Need for Progressive Voices
• BreakingThroughPower.org
• DemocracyNOW.org

[Zacha341]

I'd be more optimistic were we not already in debt to the trillions. Eventually we're going over the cliff! And politicians right and left promise wild spending for programs, and favors for votes all the time. Further, his redistribution policies give me pause. And no, I'm not happy where our money's been going back thru Bush, etc.

So perhaps Hillary can name Sanders her VP? Otherwise she may loose to Trump, as her proposed policies, un-likability, re-tread aspect, and baggage will NOT gain her votes. Especially considering the Sanders and Trump factors.

More incredible to some, is that a percentage of voters refusing to vote for Hillary Clinton will move over to Trump. Stranger things have happened.

Zacha, a large number of Bernies ideas are sustainable, somewhat more possible than the current policies. It is a tough sell, but realistic if you're willing to actually listen to the entire message he's attempting to explain. It makes sense, if you realize where our money is going, and where it could or should go to help a greater number of people rather than a small number of people.

Personaly, I think a number of people living a good or even a decent life would be a good thing. I believe that Bernie is intelligent enough and has the integrity to take money that is ill spent and utilize it to help the general populace, which would help me, and I'd like that.

Obviously congress would have to be on board, and or the people would need to insist on change.

It's time, the money is available if we stop giving it to the people that already control it. The way we're currently living isn't sustainable for most of the population.

[Pam]

On a lighter note, the guys who were doing the fake Trump and Bernie debates have some new material out. There is a longer version where they also impersonate Chris Matthews and Rachel Maddow. Here are a couple of clips.

Bernie looks into retirement planning and the Donald gets some ice cream:

https://youtu.be/gLAFCoWXSos

https://youtu.be/rfnX859RGEc

[Jimaz]

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Cenk Uygur Introducing Bernie Sanders At Irvine, California Rally

Footage of Cenk Uygur, host of The Young Turks, introducing Bernie Sanders at a rally in Irvine, California. Cenk discusses why he supports Bernie Sanders for President in 2016.

• Bernie Sanders | The Young Turks Interview [[FULL) - 33 minutes
• BernieSanders.com

[Pam]

I guess The Donald chickened out on debating Bernie, but the fake Trump and Bernie are still on tour:

https://twitter.com/JAdomian

[coracle]

I guess The Donald chickened out on debating Bernie, but the fake Trump and Bernie are still on

It's called "knowing when to walk away from a bad deal". Balmy Bernie's going nowhere even if Hillary is indicted; which she won't be unless Trump gets in, then all bets are off. Bernie can retire to Venezuela where his talents are desperately needed.

[Pam]

It's called "knowing when to walk away from a bad deal". Balmy Bernie's going nowhere even if Hillary is indicted; which she won't be unless Trump gets in, then all bets are off. Bernie can retire to Venezuela where his talents are desperately needed.

Hillary could be indicted before then. Bernie beats Trump in national polls.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...ders-5565.html#!

[coracle]

Hillary could be indicted before then. Bernie beats Trump in national polls.

Unfortunately for Bernie supporters, people don't get elected based on poll results manipulated by a Media that produces the "news" to satisfy their agenda.

Get used to living with an un-indicted Crooked Clinton and a welcoming slightly belligerent President Trump; rattling all our "friends", building walls, expelling invaders, and finding jobs for Bernie's supporters that don't want to work [[and of course walking away from bad deals like debates when there's nothing to be gained)

Or would you rather have your man in and pay to educate the invader's kids and kids that are conceived only to produce the Child Allowance, and all the other freebees - you know the Socialist paradise where the majority gets everything for doing nothing and the few who do everything get the shaft because they earn too much?

Right now Bernie's talents are really really [[two reallys) needed in Venezuela. I guess their money's run out. Get ready for a flotilla!

[Jimaz]

Attachment 30557
Chomsky on Supporting Sanders & Why He Would Vote for Clinton Against Trump in a Swing State

Who is the world-renowned political dissident Noam Chomsky voting for? "In the primaries, I would prefer Bernie Sanders," Chomsky says. "If Clinton is nominated and it comes to a choice between Clinton and Trump, in a swing state, a state where it’s going to matter which way you vote, I would vote against Trump, and by elementary arithmetic, that means you hold your nose and you vote Democrat. I don’t think there’s any other rational choice."

Who Rules the World?

• Democracy NOW!

[Pam]

Unfortunately for Bernie supporters, people don't get elected based on poll results manipulated by a Media that produces the "news" to satisfy their agenda.

Get used to living with an un-indicted Crooked Clinton and a welcoming slightly belligerent President Trump; rattling all our "friends", building walls, expelling invaders, and finding jobs for Bernie's supporters that don't want to work [[and of course walking away from bad deals like debates when there's nothing to be gained)

Or would you rather have your man in and pay to educate the invader's kids and kids that are conceived only to produce the Child Allowance, and all the other freebees - you know the Socialist paradise where the majority gets everything for doing nothing and the few who do everything get the shaft because they earn too much?

Right now Bernie's talents are really really [[two reallys) needed in Venezuela. I guess their money's run out. Get ready for a flotilla!

Coracle are you a billionaire? I didn't know right wing trolling paid that much.
Have you ever heard of the working poor and the shrinking middle class? These are the people that Bernie wants to help. And if it means the billionaires have to pay a little more, I won't shed any tears. Trickle down economics has been tried, it doesn't work.

Here are a couple of videos for you:

https://youtu.be/DoznQVAmJJY

https://youtu.be/9LoXn9pkiKI

[coracle]

Coracle are you a billionaire? I didn't know right wing trolling paid that much.
Have you ever heard of the working poor and the shrinking middle class? These are the people that Bernie wants to help. And if it means the billionaires have to pay a little more, I won't shed any tears. Trickle down economics has been tried, it doesn't work.

No, I'm not a billionaire yet; just a VERY right wing troll. I've heard of the working poor [[I've been one). You say trickle down economics doesn't work; well neither does socialism; it produces a shrinking middle class because the more free stuff you offer the larger the numbers wanting it grows and there isn't enough money from the "1%" to pay for it all so you have to tax the middle class to do the subsidizing. So it becomes a redistribution of wealth from the middle class to the working poor and of course those that don't work at all, and this last class grows like the plague.

Another aspect Socialists don't take into account is when you stick it to the very rich they put the prices of their goods and services up to cover the extra which has to be paid by the middle class, the working poor and those that don't work at all.

I saw an interesting caricature of your candidates today; they were represented as Mr. FreeShit and Mrs. BullShit.

[Jimaz]

I love the shaggy-looking silhouettes on the right.

It's obviously representing a single mother and her daughter, but what is the shagginess intended to represent? I'm guessing it means something like "We're beyond your comprehension so don't bother trying to influence us [[otherwise)."

Heh. It's a zombie family decal.

[Pam]

Bernie appearing on the cover of Time again:


http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280205539

He's been campaigning hard in California. Hope it helps. They vote on June 7th.

[Pam]

This is cool. Historic diner in LA becomes Bernie HQ.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh1siBt2QVs

[Pam]

Honking for Bernie in California:

https://youtu.be/__tqi3x4EJ8

[Jimaz]

Bernie Sanders Reacts To Donald Trump Backing Out Of Debate

Mr. Trump, let's do it.

[Pam]

If the mainstream media announces Hillary has "won" the nomination tomorrow, they are wrong.
Cenk from the Young Turks channel tries to explain to some tool on CNN:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07XpqAPj7lM