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    For awhile I had to take SMART from 10 & Gratiot to about 12 1/2 & Southfield. You'd think I was commuting to Ohio. It took almost 2 hours each way, over 4 times as long it took by car.

    And guess what? I did it for a few months. And no, I didn't feel like a shining example of the American work ethic. It just felt like I was living somewhere that was designed poorly.

    What kills me about all this is people think mass transit is a waste of money, but good transit actually saves people a lot of money: http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/livability/f...andhousing.cfm

    "While living in a city is often perceived as expensive, living close to transit and being able to walk or take a bike makes up for much of the premium in housing costs. Comparing North Center Chicago with North Aurora, a Chicago exurb, shows that living further from the central city can actually be more expensive. While the average monthly transportation cost in North Center is $632, that cost jumps to $905 in Aurora. Although housing does cost more in the downtown area, the combined cost of housing and transportation for the average household income in Aurora is $2,954 more than the cost for the average household in downtown Chicago."

    Americans, on average, spend more on transportation than food: http://www.bls.gov/news.release/cesan.nr0.htm .

    Regions with better mass transit tend to have lower transportation costs: http://www.cnt.org/repository/2012-F...t-Rankings.pdf . I know from experience that Honolulu is very aggressive about public transportation, and so it comes as little surprise that it destroys all other medium metros for transportation costs.
    Last edited by nain rouge; February-02-15 at 11:48 AM.

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