Penobscot Observation Deck To Reopen?

**davewindsor** · January-30-15, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by animatedmartian

Because the Ren Cen doesn't have an observation deck. You can't go into Couch Insignia unless you're a customer and you can't take pictures.

Like I said, I went up there and bought a drink and went back down. They let me take pictures. There was that big king's chair I had a picture taken on--don't know if it's still there--and I took several pictures of the city.

**animatedmartian** · January-30-15, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by davewindsor

Like I said, I went up there and bought a drink and went back down. They let me take pictures. There was that big king's chair I had a picture taken on--don't know if it's still there--and I took several pictures of the city.

And what if people would rather not buy a drink? What if they're not even open? [[They're literally closed half the day and on Sundays) You still can't go up there without being forced to patronize the restaurant and it's not worth going up there to buy something I don't want just so I can do something else. It needs to be a real observation deck.

**davewindsor** · January-30-15, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by animatedmartian

And what if people would rather not buy a drink? What if they're not even open? [[They're literally closed half the day and on Sundays) You still can't go up there without being forced to patronize the restaurant and it's not worth going up there to buy something I don't want just so I can do something else. It needs to be a real observation deck.

Are you telling me you don't drink fluids? Are you an alien? I forgot, apparently your martian physiology doesn't allow for it. Hell, why don't you just hover your spaceship above the city and take pictures?

I bought a coffee and they let me sit up there and take pictures. A lot cheaper than the twenty bucks i'd have to pay to go up the Penobscot if it ever came to fruition.

PS Why do you think it's closed half the day? This is an observation area without competition and you want to add another observation area to downtown to compete with the Ren Centre? Perhaps, there's just not enough tourist traffic to sustain one of them. So what sense does it make to add another one??

**animatedmartian** · January-30-15, 07:42 PM

Originally Posted by davewindsor

Are you telling me you don't drink fluids? Are you an alien? I forgot, apparently your martian physiology doesn't allow for it. Hell, why don't you just hover your spaceship above the city and take pictures?

I bought a coffee and they let me sit up there and take pictures. A lot cheaper than the twenty bucks i'd have to pay to go up the Penobscot if it ever came to fruition.

PS Why do you think it's closed half the day? This is an observation area without competition and you want to add another observation area to downtown to compete with the Ren Centre? Perhaps, there's just not enough tourist traffic to sustain one of them. So what sense does it make to add another one??

It's closed because it's a restaurant, not an observation deck. Completely two different operations. I don't have to patronize a restaurant if I don't want to.

Tourist traffic has nothing to do with it. If it did, then you wouldn't have to buy a drink when you go up there. Real observation decks might have a cafe off to the side along with souvenirs and other touristy merchandise, but you're never required to buy any of it.

**davewindsor** · January-30-15, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by animatedmartian

It's closed because it's a restaurant, not an observation deck. Completely two different operations. I don't have to patronize a restaurant if I don't want to.

The reason I went up there was to get a view of the city, not patronize a restaurant. Patronizing a restaurant was simply the admission price to accomplish my objective.

Originally Posted by animatedmartian

Tourist traffic has nothing to do with it. If it did, then you wouldn't have to buy a drink when you go up there. Real observation decks might have a cafe off to the side along with souvenirs and other touristy merchandise, but you're never required to buy any of it.

Tourist traffic has everything to do with it. I'm a tourist and that's why I went up there. I know a lot of other "tourists" that did the same thing.

All that matters at the end of the day is how much money came out of my wallet. If it's cheaper to buy a drink to get the highest view of downtown than to pay a cover, why wouldn't any reasonable person do that? I don't get your point.

**animatedmartian** · January-30-15, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by davewindsor

The reason I went up there was to get a view of the city, not patronize a restaurant. Patronizing a restaurant was simply the admission price to accomplish my objective.

You're still forced to patronize the restaurant.

Tourist traffic has everything to do with it. I'm a tourist and that's why I went up there. I know a lot of other "tourists" that did the same thing.

All that matters at the end of the day is how much money came out of my wallet. If it's cheaper to buy a drink to get the highest view of downtown than to pay a cover, why wouldn't any reasonable person do that? I don't get your point.

Because what's the point of buying something that you don't want? Why should I have to spend a single dollar at that restaurant when I can just go to other observatories to get what I want with nothing else?

**davewindsor** · January-31-15, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by animatedmartian

Because what's the point of buying something that you don't want? Why should I have to spend a single dollar at that restaurant when I can just go to other observatories to get what I want with nothing else?

You are buying admission when you buy the drink. If you don't want to pay to get in, go during the free hours or pay for admission elsewhere. It's that simple. It's not gonna be free at the Penobscot either.