Quote Originally Posted by warsaw7 View Post
Your attempt to try persuade me failed once you hit this paragraph. There are no restaurants or bars outside of the Palace like many other venues.
Who cares? The Palace is often the highest grossing venue in the U.S. Would you be happier if they opened an Applebees in the parking lot?

Don't apply your weird prejudices [[You apparently only like arenas if there is a restaurant or bar next to the front entrance) to draw conclusions about consumer preferences. The highest grossing arenas, generally speaking, are in stand-alone sites, no different than the Palace.

Quote Originally Posted by warsaw7 View Post
So if I wanted to grab a drink or a bite to eat before the game, where do I go? Somewhere in Auburn Hills? Oh and then I have to drive to the Palace and get caught in traffic?! No thanks.
Yeah, obviously you can go wherever the hell you want. Everyone drives downtown to the stadia, and gets caught in traffic, just as to the Palace. There's no difference, except some people like you who don't understand cities like the contrived theme park aspect of downtown arenas.

Visit a functioning city and you'll understand that arenas are kryptonite to 24/7 neighborhood vitality, which is why Ford Field and Comerica are surrounded by parking lots, and why the neighborhood is completely dead except when there's an event [[so 95% of the time).