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    Quote Originally Posted by emu steve View Post
    Now that we have a design for the new building, I wonder what design the Ilitches will come up with for the housing across the street?

    Will it blend with the new LC building?
    Even Ilitch's biggest booster on this board is only hoping for another rendition of a proposed design. How about when will the construction start on that housing? Or is that to high of a expectation? One only has to look at the mess of the Fine Arts Building across the park from the David Whitney and Broderick Tower to understand our frustration Steve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jt1 View Post

    Full disclosure: I still think you are on an Ilitch/Olympia payroll
    I have to say this crossed my mind too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSUguy View Post
    I have to say this crossed my mind too.
    Full disclosure:

    I live in the Washington, D.C. area and not a hockey fan [[I haven't been a hockey fan in a few decades - the last team I rooted for was the Washington Capitals).

    I haven't had any salary income in a few years [[I'm retired now. I'm a fmr. federal government employee).

    I'll be glad to get together with Donald Trump. We both can show our tax returns for the last four years...

    And, I know, the 'conspiracy' folks probably think I'm getting paid under [[on?) the table with Little Caesar's pizzas... and maybe a few ball park franks when I'm in Detroit and at a Tigers' game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emu steve View Post
    Full disclosure:

    I live in the Washington, D.C. area and not a hockey fan [[I haven't been a hockey fan in a few decades - the last team I rooted for was the Washington Capitals).

    I haven't had any salary income in a few years [[I'm retired now. I'm a fmr. federal government employee).

    I'll be glad to get together with Donald Trump. We both can show our tax returns for the last four years...

    And, I know, the 'conspiracy' folks probably think I'm getting paid under [[on?) the table with Little Caesar's pizzas... and maybe a few ball park franks when I'm in Detroit and at a Tigers' game.
    In the interest of your "Full Disclosure" approximately how many pieces of Detroit Tiger paraphernalia do you own? [[Not that there is anything wrong with that) Just curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABetterDetroit View Post
    In the interest of your "Full Disclosure" approximately how many pieces of Detroit Tiger paraphernalia do you own? [[Not that there is anything wrong with that) Just curious.
    Not too much but a few.

    Mostly things like a cap, a book, etc.

    Also have a few baseballs. Got Granderson and J.D. Martinez autographed balls but I got them like everyone else does. Went down by the field and asked.

    Nothing at all unusual. Pretty typical fan. As I don't live in the Midwest it isn't like I can get autographed baseballs or go to Tiger Fests or whatever whenever I want...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jt1 View Post
    Full disclosure: I still think you are on an Ilitch/Olympia payroll
    Quote Originally Posted by MSUguy View Post
    I have to say this crossed my mind too.
    I think he's an Ilitch nephew.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archfan View Post
    I think he's an Ilitch nephew.
    Wish I were. I like their deep dish pizza and watching the Tigers.

    "Free pizza, pizza..."

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    Again this piece:

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    Quote Originally Posted by DansTheMan View Post
    Did you see this part in those links??

    "This property owner hasn't provided contact details for this property."

    That and "No availability"... kinda says "Still pending"....
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    The new tower, slated to be completed by December 2016, will be smaller than the Fox Office Center building, which houses both the iconic Fox Theatre and 186,000 square feet of office space for Little Caesars and other Ilitch-affiliated ventures. The two buildings will be the same height, but the new tower will be just eight stories — versus 10 for the Fox — because it will have higher ceilings.
    Progress made on Little Caesars Headquarters: None.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 48307 View Post
    Progress made on Little Caesars Headquarters: None.

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    But they've shared renderings, that's enough for some to wet their pants and praise Ilitch. History of this happening then nothing being built is simply ignored because this time, things will be different.

    Of course the press will stay silent as well about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jt1 View Post
    But they've shared renderings, that's enough for some to wet their pants and praise Ilitch. History of this happening then nothing being built is simply ignored because this time, things will be different.

    Of course the press will stay silent as well about it.
    A building permit for foundation work was issued for foundation work at 2125 Woodward last week. So take that fwiw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSUguy View Post
    A building permit for foundation work was issued for foundation work at 2125 Woodward last week. So take that fwiw.
    Thanks for posting. Hopefully they'll finally prove many of us wrong.
    My first reaction is that they'll pull the permit, put up a fence, delay, winter comes, fence comes down before spring, permit expires, all is forgotten/forgiven but I hope I'm wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jt1 View Post
    History of this happening then nothing being built is simply ignored because this time, things will be different.
    If you're referring to the last time a billionaire announced the construction of a new headquarters for his company in downtown Detroit and then never built it, I think getting financing for new office building construction is a little bit easier to get now than in 2007. But I guess we'll see pretty soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 48307 View Post
    Progress made on Little Caesars Headquarters: None.

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    I believe someone posted that construction fencing is or will be placed on this site I believe this month.

    I believe the context was that the city had approved the permit to begin the preliminary prep work.

    I don't see the problem given that the Ilitch folks and city are moving things along.
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    Quote Originally Posted by emu steve View Post
    I believe someone posted that construction fencing is or will be placed on this site I believe this month.

    I believe the context was that the city had approved the permit to begin the preliminary prep work.

    I don't see the problem given that the Ilitch folks and city are moving things along.
    The picture I posted is from today, no fencing. The parking lot is still very much being used as a famous deluxe Ilitch surface parking lot [[it's paved!).


    Quote Originally Posted by MSUguy View Post
    A building permit for foundation work was issued for foundation work at 2125 Woodward last week. So take that fwiw.
    That's good news! I'd like to see some of Ilitch's non-taxpayer funded promises come true. I want to be a believer, he just need to make me one.

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    Construction Trailers are set up NW corner of Park and Columbia. This job is going to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 313rd View Post
    Construction Trailers are set up NW corner of Park and Columbia. This job is going to happen.
    Thanks.

    Again, I think folks need to remember that this entire "District Detroit" development by the Ilitches is quite large and will maybe take until 2019 or 20 for most of the Ilitch portion to be completed.

    If folks put everything into a reasonable context: Say 5 years from ground breaking for the arena [[by say 1/1/2020) I think we'll find that we'll have most of what we want will be completed including the arena, new LC headquarters, residences around the arena and Comerica, a new hotel, Ilitch school of business building, a few new parking structures, etc. etc. [[I consider this the 'primary development'. Other buildings say behind the Fox or West of Cass to be secondary development).

    On Labor Day 2016, we'll have three large buildings [[arena, business school building and headquarters) going up on Woodward in a city not full of cranes...
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    Scaffolding is up on the Columbia street sidewalk along the fox. I also saw surveyors on site on Tuesday. Construction is imminent.

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    I walked by yesterday and the site looked business as usual, no signs of construction planned.

    EMUSteve, what does Ilitch pay you to market for him?

    1953

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1953 View Post
    I walked by yesterday and the site looked business as usual, no signs of construction planned.

    EMUSteve, what does Ilitch pay you to market for him?

    1953
    "Pizza, Pizza"

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    Quote Originally Posted by emu steve View Post
    "Pizza, Pizza"
    I've been very critical of Ilitch, but some of that bacon-crust pizza could change my mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emu steve View Post
    "Pizza, Pizza"
    I think what 1953 was asking is, "what does Ilitch pay you of some value to market for him?"

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    Work has begun on the new LC HQ. A new kiddie park was installed on the west side of Park last week as well...Name:  20160802_125450.jpg
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