Macomb Township, the Golden Age of Sprawl.

[Novine]

"Rural property on OR beyond the "edge" of already developed locations offer more home for less. Period."

But many of those people wanting the "rural" lifestyle also want the shopping, fast food restaurants, etc. that they had from where they previously lived. Many also want city style services. Every township that has grown with sprawl development has also seen their tax rates go up significantly. Want low taxes? Move somewhere that is protecting the farms from development. Otherwise, as everyone else moves out to your "rural" area, taxes are going up.

[Danny]

That is why suburban sprawl needs to slow down and stop And rebuild areas that are damage for over 40 years.

[rex]

That is why suburban sprawl needs to slow down and stop And rebuild areas that are damage for over 40 years.

Unrealistic expectation and not how things work. Who should be moving into these 40 year neglected neighborhoods? People with good jobs and a little $$$? People with kids?

[nain rouge]

Unfortunately in this day and age people have so little pride they destroy public parks in their own neighborhoods.

Nonsense. Tons of other metropolitan areas have park systems that are both superior to Metro Detroit's AND free. By a Metro Detroiter's logic, Central Park should be impossible.

Fact of the matter is that we have a lack of pride on all sides in Metro Detroit. That is the real problem. There are tons of Detroiters that give up and stop caring. There are tons of suburbanites that'd rather sell their homes for the shiny new thing with low taxes then put in the hard work of actually caring about a real neighborhood.

And then there are the exceptions, but not enough. In Metro Detroit, you just have a region where the balance has shifted too far in favor of those that could care less. And the core of the problem, IMO, isn't in Detroit, or Ferndale, Birmingham, or Grosse Pointe. Its in shameless "cities" like Warren, Troy, Sterling Heights, Novi, Southfield, and Waterford. Those people have a lot of money, but don't care about anything besides themselves. They're just counting the days until they're in Lyon Township, Macomb Township, or Rochester Hills. And once they're in those cities, they're counting the days until the next level of sprawl hits.

They won't be happy until their properties are townships unto themselves, all the roads are freeways paid for by the federal government, and their kids are bused into school districts they barely pay for.

[Gpwrangler]

Nonsense. Tons of other metropolitan areas have park systems that are both superior to Metro Detroit's AND free. By a Metro Detroiter's logic, Central Park should be impossible.

Fact of the matter is that we have a lack of pride on all sides in Metro Detroit. That is the real problem. There are tons of Detroiters that give up and stop caring. There are tons of suburbanites that'd rather sell their homes for the shiny new thing with low taxes then put in the hard work of actually caring about a real neighborhood.

Central Park WOULD be impossible in Detroit. There is not enough money and not enough cops to keep it safe. Things are changing though, but slowly.

I doubt people in Indian Village or other nice parts of Detroit want to live in sprawlville or they would for what they spend fixing those homes. Ypsilanti and Royal Oak have nice parks that residents care about. Grosse Pointe and Other communities have beautiful parks that are free to residents. And it's not all "rich people". Homes in GPW start in the $60s and rent is $500 in some areas.

Its a matter of pride and priorities. Nonsense? Hardly. I could easily move to Macomb but I'd rather walk to the park than drive in that stupid traffic to some mega park. I chose to be on a street with neighbors close to everything than sit in a pack of cars doing 80 to get to Eastern Market.

You can can always see what you want to see, but it's not all negative down here. The more people flee up to Macomb, the less traffic there is to work in the morning.