How safe is eastern english village?

[Dan Wesson]

So what's the trend? Pertaining to safety.

I know it's hard for some here but please...Don't sugar coat it.

[tobyunited]

I got 1 more question is which streets I have to care not to go in EEV?

[sumas]

All of EEV is just fine. I like the area bounded by Cadieux, Warren, Mack and Outer drive best. Just saying. It is a great community over all.

Finney was not a shit hole when I was there. At that time it was a Jr and Senior High. It was seriously integrated, but no major worries. Just a nice school and place to be. I am sure the new academy is fine, remember shit does happen anywhere.

I liked and still do EEV. Just great people!

[Mikeg]

All of EEV is just fine. I like the area bounded by Cadieux, Warren, Mack and Outer drive best....

Less than two weeks ago, two people were found shot to death in their apartment, which is located within that area. [source]

[Honky Tonk]

All of EEV is just fine. I like the area bounded by Cadieux, Warren, Mack and Outer drive best. Just saying. It is a great community over all.

Finney was not a shit hole when I was there. At that time it was a Jr and Senior High. It was seriously integrated, but no major worries. Just a nice school and place to be. I am sure the new academy is fine, remember shit does happen anywhere.

I liked and still do EEV. Just great people!

When did you go there sumas? 45 years ago?

[sumas]

When did you go there sumas? 45 years ago?

Yes dear, rub it in that I am aging. Have nieces , nephews that went too. So WHAT!

Last I looked we do not have mass killings in Detroit schools. It is Easter and I pray that that crap never happens here.

[TTime]

One interesting thing I've noticed in EEV is that people who are out for a walk tend to carry sticks or golf clubs when they walk. My guess is that this is to ward off strays but maybe it's to ward off people. Just wondering what's up with this.

[canuck]

One interesting thing I've noticed in EEV is that people who are out for a walk tend to carry sticks or golf clubs when they walk. My guess is that this is to ward off strays but maybe it's to ward off people. Just wondering what's up with this.

Aint it normow fer folks to carry sticks and clubs out fer a walk in an English village? It used to be when I was a lad in the Cotswolds...

[Dan Wesson]

Aint it normow fer folks to carry sticks and clubs out fer a walk in an English village? It used to be when I was a lad in the Cotswolds...

Sticks, canes, clubs, bats are not enough to get so much notice that LEO are called.

But I bet the concealed stuff is back up. It's the concealed stuff that will get you in legal trouble and out of life ending trouble.

Curious that in Michigan, open carry is legal.

Oh, Dogs too...

[Ben]

It seems like a ton of people are confusing Morningside, East English Village and Cornerstone Village. It can be pretty confusing for someone not from that part of Detroit. EEV is bounded by Cadieux, Harper, Mack and Outer. Morningside is bounded by Outer, Harper, Mack and Alter. Cornerstone Village is bounded by Harper, Moross, Mack, and Cadieux. There really are major differences between these communities, even if the housing styles aren't so different. I grew up in Morningside from my birth in 1945 to 1961 when I was a sophomore in high school. We moved to Harper Woods then. My parents moved into my grandparents house when they died in 1979 and then I moved into that house when my parents died in 1991. I lived in Morningside on Devonshire from 1991-1994. That was a rough time for the neighborhood. I remember it getting worse from year to year. I think EEV is great, though. If you are a property speculator, please move on! This neighborhood is one of my favorite things in Detroit, and it would be a great loss if it got ruined.

[313WX]

Based on what happened to Morningside, the trajectory certainly isn't great for EEV.

Part of EEV's saving grace I think, thus far, has been its proximity to Grosse Pointe and how relatively valuable the architecture of the housing is. Despite Detroit's challenges, the residents of EEV are reluctant to give us on their homes they've invested a ton of money in, and the blow of residing in a Detroit zip code is softened by the fact that they're adjacent to what are still extremely wealthy and prestigious suburbs.

That said, unless the city of Detroit can provide enough evidence to the residents of EEV that it will make a strong enough effort to improve public lighting [[for example, I hear the Detroit side of Mack Avenue is pitch black at night), reduce petty crimes such as burglarly or property theft, and ensure that landlords maintain their properties in accordance with blight ordinances, I think EEV will soon go the way of Morningside and Regent Park/Mohican-Regent.

Once the homeowners lose faith in the neighborhood, renters who have no financial nor emotional stake in the neighborhood then move in. That's usually when it reaches the point of no-return, especially in a region that's shrinking and not creating high-paying jobs that would attract homeowners.

[Honky Tonk]

Yes dear, rub it in that I am aging. Have nieces , nephews that went too. So WHAT!

Last I looked we do not have mass killings in Detroit schools. It is Easter and I pray that that crap never happens here.

No Mass Killings = Great School
Got it.....

[313WX]

No Mass Killings = Great School
Got it.....

The thing is, these mass killings typically occur in places where the students are well-off [[such as the wealthy suburb of Colombine, CO). The students are so well taken care of, that they typically have the spare time and energy to meditate on and plan these mass killings you hear about [[and it's typically over stupid shit, such as the kids teased me because of my funny-looking glasses).

In a place like Detroit, the students are so busy simply trying not to get killed by the crazies in the streets or survive the abuse and neglect households they're raised in that committing mass killings of their classmates is the last thing on their minds.

[canuck]

The thing is, these mass killings typically occur in places where the students are well-off [[such as the wealthy suburb of Colombine, CO). The students are so well taken care of, that they typically have the spare time and energy to meditate on and plan these mass killings you hear about [[and it's typically over stupid shit, such as the kids teased me because of my funny-looking glasses).

In a place like Detroit, the students are so busy simply trying not to get killed by the crazies in the streets or survive the abuse and neglect households they're raised in that committing mass killings of their classmates is the last thing on their minds.

In a nutshell.

[sumas]

In a nutshell.

Strange, do you live in Detroit? I know personally all our area children, their parents too. Many of our babies struggle but I have faith in them. We invest in them, My community invests in them. Our churches invest in them. Fun bashing Detroit, no doubt, but we have some of the best and brightest. We all make sure they get to/and come home safe from school. No guarantees to life but our kids are loved by a whole Village.

OOPs forgot, this is Detroit, those evil people!

EEV is a great community, I live in a great community.

[sumas]

No Mass Killings = Great School
Got it.....

First, it is not Finney anymore. I could share many stories of what goes on in my city. Not naive! I don't feed trolls. I focus on what is good. So much is good.

[Honky Tonk]

First, it is not Finney anymore. I could share many stories of what goes on in my city. Not naive! I don't feed trolls. I focus on what is good. So much is good.

"Troll", that's funny. Your kids graduated from Finney as well?

[Dan Wesson]

Originally Posted by sumas
First, it is not Finney anymore. I could share many stories of what goes on in my city. Not naive! I don't feed trolls. I focus on what is good. So much is good.

"Troll", that's funny. Your kids graduated from Finney as well?

This comes under the heading of learning something new every so often.

I can see why there are times when sumas is attacked here.

I find myself wanting to reply to some of the things sumas posts. But it feels like taking the bait. Clarification here; It's what I feel, not necessarily the intention of the writer.

I have made it a point to recognize the lure of the bait and not participate.

To take an analogy from the Wizard of OZ, I can see there are Good Trolls of the North as well as Wicked Trolls of the West.

But as an investor in real estate in detroit it's Caveat Emptor, do your Due Diligence and apply a discount to the view of those wearing rose colored blinders about Detroit.

[Honky Tonk]

Originally Posted by sumas
First, it is not Finney anymore. I could share many stories of what goes on in my city. Not naive! I don't feed trolls. I focus on what is good. So much is good.








This comes under the heading of learning something new every so often.

I can see why there are times when sumas is attacked here.

I find myself wanting to reply to some of the things sumas posts. But it feels like taking the bait. Clarification here; It's what I feel, not necessarily the intention of the writer.

I have made it a point to recognize the lure of the bait and not participate.

To take an analogy from the Wizard of OZ, I can see there are Good Trolls of the North as well as Wicked Trolls of the West.

But as an investor in real estate in detroit it's Caveat Emptor, do your Due Diligence and apply a discount to the view of those wearing rose colored blinders about Detroit.

I wasn't attacking her. I find it annoying that someone can comment on school quality based on the fact they attended it 45 years ago.

[sumas]

"Troll", that's funny. Your kids graduated from Finney as well?

Actually no, try Grosse Pointe South. I have never hid the fact that we left the city for education reasons. Couldn't wait to come home again.

[SDCC]

I readed the news regarding EEV is luanching the foreclosure properties start from few days ago and I m wondering how safe is in there.

You live in Hong Kong and your first name is Toby? Where in Hong Kong?
admin gets an IP as well as our internet service provider - no?

[Hermod]

You live in Hong Kong and your first name is Toby? Where in Hong Kong?
admin gets an IP as well as our internet service provider - no?

Most residents of Hong Kong are encouraged to choose an English name while in school. so that "Chan Ying Chun" becomes "Alfred Ying-Chun Chan" or "Alfred Y. Chan".

[Dumpling]

Detroit PROPER as a whole is one hundred times more dangerous than Pleasanton, California [[based on www.crimemapping.com). A house left unoccupied will have squatters and scrappers dropping in and causing
massive damage within three months. This will be distressing to the outside
investor as well as the owner-occupants next door.
I would recommend to outside investors, if they wish to purchase a single house but leave it unoccupied in the Detroit area, to select a house in a lower crime area such as a suburb. I would suggest Farmington Hills. It will cost more but your chances of recouping your investment are so much better.
Owner-occupants are generally very welcome and needed in Detroit. You will want to check out your immediate neighbors by your prospective house. If you are a newbie pass up any house next door to drug dealers. Most houses
are next door to very nice people. Ask a few prospective neighbors with
nice houses and yards and they will be glad to give you suggestions and
describe any problems you might encounter [[with city services, crime, etc.).

[sumas]

One thing not mentioned is that EEV has a very strong community group with outstanding leadership.

[DetroiterOnTheWestCoast]

One thing not mentioned is that EEV has a very strong community group with outstanding leadership.

I'd make a point of attending neighborhood association meetings to get a feel for the community. It should be easy enough to do for a local person who's considering moving there.