Curbed: GPP doesn't want Detroit

**313WX** · February-04-14, 08:38 AM

I guess I'll be boycotting Gross Pointe Park now.

If you don't want my money being spent in your city, I'll take it elsewhere.

**RO_Resident** · February-04-14, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by 313WX

I guess I'll be boycotting Gross Pointe Park now.

If you don't want my money being spent in your city, I'll take it elsewhere.

Adding this to your boycott of Palmer Woods? Or, does the boycott extend to all of Detroit?

**1953** · February-04-14, 09:52 AM

I live in Grosse Pointe and, though I understand the reasons for this closure, I am opposed to it. Its no way to be neighborly, it interferes with traffic flow, and I doubt it will be good for business - rare is the hemmed in market that out sells the accessible one. I hope somebody higher up the chain of command steps in and gets this fixed. I imagine a lawsuit could do it...

**313WX** · February-04-14, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by RO_Resident

Adding this to your boycott of Palmer Woods? Or, does the boycott extend to all of Detroit?

Why would I boycott a city I pay taxes to and reside in?

For that matter, what do Palmer Woods and the city of Detroit have to do with this discussion?

**bailey** · February-04-14, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by 313WX

Why would I boycott a city I pay taxes to and reside in?

For that matter, what do Palmer Woods and the city of Detroit have to do with this discussion?

Palmer woods has several blocked off streets that impede access.

Over the years, efforts to wall off Detroit streets to keep out motorists have drawn howls, with critics charging elitism and racism.

Today, Detroit not only is welcoming the efforts, the cash-strapped city footed the bill.

Northwest Detroit’s upscale Palmer Woods neighborhood, known for its tudor mansions and streets bordered by landscape rocks instead of curbs, has installed traffic barriers to block speeders from cutting through the historic area.

Also, no one seems to mind dropping a chrysler plant across Kercheval in Detroit....but GPP does it to make a pedestrian/entertainment district and its tantamount to apartheid.

**Honky Tonk** · February-04-14, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by bailey

Palmer woods has several blocked off streets that impede access.

Also, no one seems to mind dropping a chrysler plant across Kercheval in Detroit....but GPP does it to make a pedestria/entertainment district and its tantamount to apartheid.

Well that's it! I'm not spending my money in Palmer Woods!

**bailey** · February-04-14, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by Honky Tonk

Well that's it! I'm not spending my money in Palmer Woods!

Hey, 313 was the one getting all righteously indignant about boycotting communities that cut off road access for traffic reasons.... it's curious that the outrage is absent when detroit does the same thing for the same reasons.... controlling traffic and access to certain areas.

**13074Glenfield** · February-04-14, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by RO_Resident

Adding this to your boycott of Palmer Woods? Or, does the boycott extend to all of Detroit?

And Warren...

**Honky Tonk** · February-04-14, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by 13074Glenfield

And Warren...

I"M the one boycotting Warren.

**poobert** · February-04-14, 03:00 PM

The ultimate irony is, especially in the past 2 years or so, that Grosse Pointe's entertainment district is the greater downtown Detroit vicinity. Throw a rock downtown on a Friday and you'll hit a Grosse Pointer.

**1953** · February-04-14, 03:35 PM

This barrier is a reactive, not proactive solution. Got crime? Put up a wall, rather than trying to encourage the growth that will make both cities better off in the long run. Very myopic.

**Detroit Stylin** · February-04-14, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by 1953

This barrier is a reactive, not proactive solution. Got crime? Put up a wall, rather than trying to encourage the growth that will make both cities better off in the long run. Very myopic.

Yep very 1950's Mississippi....

**313WX** · February-04-14, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by poobert

The ultimate irony is, especially in the past 2 years or so, that Grosse Pointe's entertainment district is the greater downtown Detroit vicinity. Throw a rock downtown on a Friday and you'll hit a Grosse Pointer.

But see, downtown is a GOOD part of Detroit. They wouldn't dare venture any direction outside of downtown, unless they're on roadways named I-94 or I-75.

They'll be perfectly content if the rest of the city between GPP and downtown was bulldozed into the river to make room for a mega highway to get them to/from downtown faster.

[[BTW, my post was 99% serious and 1% tongue-in-cheek)

**Scottathew** · February-04-14, 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by 313WX

But see, downtown is a GOOD part of Detroit. They wouldn't dare venture any direction outside of downtown, unless they're on roadways named I-94 or I-75.

They'll be perfectly content if the rest of the city between GPP and downtown was bulldozed into the river to make room for a mega highway to get them to/from downtown faster.

[[BTW, my post was 99% serious and 1% tongue-in-cheek)

That's not how suburbanites feel about Detroit. We want Detroit to recover. We want to see the urban prairies filled with new houses and middle class families. We want good things for Detroit. However, when ever someone from the outside tries to help they're accused of trying to steal Detroit's gems and are treated as unwanted.

Outsiders can only change so much in Detroit. At some point the excuses have to stop and Detroit needs to change Detroit. Folks will help along the way, but the main driving force needs to come from within.

Until Detroit is fixed you'll see communities doing what they need to do to protect their residents and their interests.

It's easy to demonize suburban cities that want to protect themselves from Detroit. It's much harder to actually address the problem and fix Detroit.