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    Quote Originally Posted by bailey View Post
    16 is the age of consent. if pugh was not a mentor at the school, none of this would be investigated as criminal. creepy...but not criminal in any way. just saying.
    I am almost 100% sure you're incorrect.

    http://www.ndaa.org/pdf/Child%20Porn...n%206-2010.pdf

    http://www.legislature.mi.gov/[[S[[hfn...e=mcl-750-520d

    [[e) That other person is at least 16 years of age but less than 18 years of age and a student at a public school or nonpublic school, and either of the following applies:
    [[i) The actor is a teacher, substitute teacher, or administrator of that public school, nonpublic school, school district, or intermediate school district. This subparagraph does not apply if the other person is emancipated or if both persons are lawfully married to each other at the time of the alleged violation.
    [[ii) The actor is an employee or a contractual service provider of the public school, nonpublic school, school district, or intermediate school district in which that other person is enrolled, or is a volunteer who is not a student in any public school or nonpublic school, or is an employee of this state or of a local unit of government of this state or of the United States assigned to provide any service to that public school, nonpublic school, school district, or intermediate school district, and the actor uses his or her employee, contractual, or volunteer status to gain access to, or to establish a relationship with, that other person

    So, I am pretty sure it's illegal.

    It's pretty clear that he's getting a pass for this. I just hope that the FBI finds out that he sent one of these texts from another state and they pursue charges against him.

  2. #27

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    Quote Originally Posted by GP For Life View Post
    I am almost 100% sure you're incorrect.

    http://www.ndaa.org/pdf/Child%20Porn...n%206-2010.pdf

    http://www.legislature.mi.gov/[[S[[hfn...e=mcl-750-520d

    [[e) That other person is at least 16 years of age but less than 18 years of age and a student at a public school or nonpublic school, and either of the following applies:
    [[i) The actor is a teacher, substitute teacher, or administrator of that public school, nonpublic school, school district, or intermediate school district. This subparagraph does not apply if the other person is emancipated or if both persons are lawfully married to each other at the time of the alleged violation.
    [[ii) The actor is an employee or a contractual service provider of the public school, nonpublic school, school district, or intermediate school district in which that other person is enrolled, or is a volunteer who is not a student in any public school or nonpublic school, or is an employee of this state or of a local unit of government of this state or of the United States assigned to provide any service to that public school, nonpublic school, school district, or intermediate school district, and the actor uses his or her employee, contractual, or volunteer status to gain access to, or to establish a relationship with, that other person

    So, I am pretty sure it's illegal.

    It's pretty clear that he's getting a pass for this. I just hope that the FBI finds out that he sent one of these texts from another state and they pursue charges against him.
    First of all your citing CSC III... .
    750.520d Criminal sexual conduct in the third degree; felony.Sec. 520d.


    [[1) A person is guilty of criminal sexual conduct in the third degree if the person engages in sexual penetration with another person and if any of the following circumstances exist:
    At no point has anyone alleged there was a "penetration" so you are looking at the wrong charge.

    So now let's look at the correct statute, which would be CSC IV:
    750.520e Criminal sexual conduct in the fourth degree; misdemeanor.Sec. 520e.


    [[1) A person is guilty of criminal sexual conduct in the fourth degree if he or she engages in sexual contact with another person and if any of the following circumstances exist:
    Which contains the same language for contact between 16-18 yr olds and a school/teacher/mentor/school volunteer

    [[f) That other person is at least 16 years of age but less than 18 years of age and a student at a public school or nonpublic school, and either of the following applies:

    [[i) The actor is a teacher, substitute teacher, or administrator of that public school, nonpublic school, school district, or intermediate school district. This subparagraph does not apply if the other person is emancipated or if both persons are lawfully married to each other at the time of the alleged violation.

    [[ii) The actor is an employee or a contractual service provider of the public school, nonpublic school, school district, or intermediate school district in which that other person is enrolled, or is a volunteer who is not a student in any public school or nonpublic school, or is an employee of this state or of a local unit of government of this state or of the United States assigned to provide any service to that public school, nonpublic school, school district, or intermediate school district, and the actor uses his or her employee, contractual, or volunteer status to gain access to, or to establish a relationship with, that other person.
    I'm almost 100% sure you just posted information that confirms my statement that "if he wasnt a mentor at the school none of this would be investigated as criminal". After the investigation, the BEST they could charge would be a misdemeanor. I think the prosecutor exercised appropriate discretion in not wasting everyone's time with it.

    So I guess I'm confused, do you have a point I'm missing?
    Last edited by bailey; December-20-13 at 08:46 AM.

  3. #28

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    i think its pretty clear that the kid was 18 and therefore it's extremely unlikely that charges will be brought. i also think that everyone thought that from day one with this crazy story.

    this is about ethics, like what Congressman Mark Foley did in Florida. remember that guy?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Fo..._page_incident

    resigned from congress the same day that a reporter obtained his messages between house pages. said the same kind of stuff pugh did.

    charles just resigned a heck of a lot sooner. he knew what was coming out, i guess.

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