Think DPS is Bad?

[firstandten]

I think competition has bred success.

There's still a lot of improvement needed by both DPS and Charters, but I shudder when I think of how poor off our children would be if there weren't Charters. There's no doubt in my mind that many of the reforms in DPS are a direct result of competition. The proof is how much the teachers are whining.

What reforms are you referring too. Are we talking curriculum based reforms. I think the word competition simply gave political cover for politicans to dismantle a system that wasn't working.

With the same pool of dysfunctional families and their underperforming children what makes one think that charters would do any better than DPS.

What magic fairy dust could they throw on the kids to make them better students ? Most of the studies I've seen have not shown me that charters have statically better results than traditional school districts.

Are the charters safer ? probably and thats important


Charters are just another education option, competition is not a word I would use.

[Detroit Stylin]

What reforms are you referring too. Are we talking curriculum based reforms. I think the word competition simply gave political cover for politicans to dismantle a system that wasn't working.

With the same pool of dysfunctional families and their underperforming children what makes one think that charters would do any better than DPS.

What magic fairy dust could they throw on the kids to make them better students ? Most of the studies I've seen have not shown me that charters have statically better results than traditional school districts.

Are the charters safer ? probably and thats important


Charters are just another education option, competition is not a word I would use.

You know its funny....aside from my mentioning DPS I could have SWORN the article I posted was about the Philly school system and not a pissing match about charters vs DPS or the families of the DPS students who clearly are ALL dysfunctional and have no redeeming qualities....

[firstandten]

You know its funny....aside from my mentioning DPS I could have SWORN the article I posted was about the Philly school system and not a pissing match about charters vs DPS or the families of the DPS students who clearly are ALL dysfunctional and have no redeeming qualities....

But you see, the beauty of the article you posted is that the DPS is right behind Philly in seeing its public school system dismantled. Whats happening in Philly today will be DPS tomorrow.

Services will be privatized, schools will be closed or put in the new EAA district. Like I said, competition with charters is the red herring to dismantle the system as we know it.

Because this thread just got moved from the Detroit section the conversation revolved around charters vs traditional public because thats where we are right now in Detroit. However like the article you posted we will be where Philly is shortly.

My question to you is what can be done about it ?

[Detroit Stylin]

But you see, the beauty of the article you posted is that the DPS is right behind Philly in seeing its public school system dismantled. Whats happening in Philly today will be DPS tomorrow.

Services will be privatized, schools will be closed or put in the new EAA district. Like I said, competition with charters is the red herring to dismantle the system as we know it.

Because this thread just got moved from the Detroit section the conversation revolved around charters vs traditional public because thats where we are right now in Detroit. However like the article you posted we will be where Philly is shortly.

My question to you is what can be done about it ?

Ok so I can agree with you on that. But the situation concerning how the schools are run is not an indictment on the students and parents who care. It is on school administrators and politicians who live outside of the school district who send their kids to private schools who should be under the gun...

[firstandten]

Ok so I can agree with you on that. But the situation concerning how the schools are run is not an indictment on the students and parents who care. It is on school administrators and politicians who live outside of the school district who send their kids to private schools who should be under the gun...

agreed ! the students and parents are just pawns