Trayvon Martin: Amazed no one has posted this....

**Meddle** · June-26-12, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by Goose

if he failed the polygragh test miserably than I'm sure you would be 100% behind it....

No, not at all. I don't believe in polygraphs, period. They're not allowed in evidence because they are untrustworthy.

**oladub** · June-26-12, 08:04 PM

Any takers on what's going to happen if this case is dragged out and Zimmerman is declared not guilty just before [[another if) Obama loses? It is in the interests of the powers that be to see to it that Zimmerman is found guilty to maintain order. Or maybe I have that wrong and just having the Trayvon/Zimmerman case being a news lead prior to the election will alter the election turnout one way or another.

**Goose** · June-26-12, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by oladub

Any takers on what's going to happen if this case is dragged out and Zimmerman is declared not guilty just before [[another if) Obama loses? It is in the interests of the powers that be to see to it that Zimmerman is found guilty to maintain order. Or maybe I have that wrong and just having the Trayvon/Zimmerman case being a news lead prior to the election will alter the election turnout one way or another.

i think so....

it wouldn't have to be this way if the lead news stories of the day weren't "white vigilate guns down black child" before any "facts" came in.....

**gazhekwe** · June-26-12, 08:26 PM

One fact is clear, Trayvon was shot in a place nowhere near Zimmerman's car. In fact, he was inside a common area, completely surrounded by homes near where he left the sidewalk to run home. His home was at the other end of the common area. What was Zimmerman doing back there so far away from his car?

**Goose** · June-26-12, 11:54 PM

Originally Posted by gazhekwe

His home was at the other end of the common area. What was Zimmerman doing back there so far away from his car?

yeah, what WAS he doing there, in a neighborhood where he lived, the nerve of this guy wandering around the commons area where he lived.... if you argue the point that Trayvon was in a public location and had every right to be wandering around there then you HAVE to concede that Zimmerman had the "right" to be anywhere on those same premises....

and Zimmerman is Hispanic, sorry media... the race baiting blew up in your face.....

**rb336** · June-27-12, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by Goose

and Zimmerman is Hispanic, sorry media... the race baiting blew up in your face.....

if you take that as a fact that just proves that the people who think Zimmerman needs to be held accountable are race baiting. The argument isn't about race, it's about holding wanna-be vigilantes responsible for their actions

**noise** · June-27-12, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by Goose

yeah, what WAS he doing there, in a neighborhood where he lived, the nerve of this guy wandering around the commons area where he lived.... if you argue the point that Trayvon was in a public location and had every right to be wandering around there then you HAVE to concede that Zimmerman had the "right" to be anywhere on those same premises....

and Zimmerman is Hispanic, sorry media... the race baiting blew up in your face.....

He was engaging in a confrontation with an innocent kid. That's what he was doing. He was worried the innocent kid would "get away", as he'd already erroneously made up his mind that the kid was guilty of something.

**Crumbled_pavement** · June-26-12, 09:23 PM

P.S.: Murder doesn't have to be premeditated. But everyone posting here knows that already.

**Meddle** · June-27-12, 10:46 AM

^^ Tell that to Al and Jesse.

**Meddle** · June-27-12, 04:03 PM

Goose, they're not interested in evidence or facts. They just want Guilty and life in prison, no matter what really happened.

**noise** · June-28-12, 07:45 AM

Originally Posted by Meddle

Goose, they're not interested in evidence or facts. They just want Guilty and life in prison, no matter what really happened.

You're just as oblivious as Goose here. The facts are pretty clear. Based on Zimmerman's own words, he found an innocent man guilty in his own court and attempted to do something about it.

Outside of that, we're all speculating.

**Crumbled_pavement** · June-28-12, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by noise

we're all speculating.

True, to some extent. However, if you speculate that Zimmerman was just some poor slob trying desperately to patrol his neighborhood when Trayvon came out of nowhere and assaulted him, then you're unbiased and see the facts clearly [[no matter how many facts contradict that assanine ascertion). If instead you see Trayvon as the victim in this circumstance, well you're obviously a Jesse Jackson/Al Sharpton fan who has bought into the liberal media's conspiracy to reelect Obama. No way is it possible that a man could go overboard and cross the line from simply patroling his neighborhood to becoming a vigilante and assuming someone is guilty of something they didn't do. This doesn't happen in America.

**Goose** · June-27-12, 05:43 PM

so where did the cuts on his head come from, and the bloody nose? and did he plant the THC that was in Trayvons blood that night according to the autopsy???

**Goose** · June-28-12, 06:38 PM

no one's explained the cuts on Zimmermans head, is it your assertion that these were faked or self inflicted???

and of course, why would Trayvon act irrationionally having THC in his bloodstream according to the autopsy.....

**rb336** · June-28-12, 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by Goose

no one's explained the cuts on Zimmermans head, is it your assertion that these were faked or self inflicted???

and of course, why would Trayvon act irrationionally having THC in his bloodstream according to the autopsy.....

first off, THC is not, repeat not associated with violent behavior, second, it stays in the blood stream long after the effects wear off, third, if anyone was right to attack someone, its the kid being stalked by a creepy older man

**Goose** · June-28-12, 08:07 PM

Originally Posted by rb336

first off, THC is not, repeat not associated with violent behavior, second, it stays in the blood stream long after the effects wear off, third, if anyone was right to attack someone, its the kid being stalked by a creepy older man

so you ARE saying trayvon first attacked Zimmerman? as he had the right to as Zimmerman was stalking him??? if so, was Zimmerman to just sit there and take a beating???

**Meddle** · June-28-12, 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by rb336

first off, THC is not, repeat not associated with violent behavior,

second, it stays in the blood stream long after the effects wear off,

From what I heard, there were only trace amounts that would have no effect.

Interestingly though, the Miami bridge zombie was clean EXCEPT for weed. No signs of salts or other hallucinogens. Not that that really has anything to do with this case, but there may be some bad stuff out there hitting the streets that could do weird things to some people.

**Goose** · June-28-12, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by Meddle

From what I heard, there were only trace amounts that would have no effect.

Interestingly though, the Miami bridge zombie was clean EXCEPT for weed. No signs of salts or other hallucinogens. Not that that really has anything to do with this case, but there may be some bad stuff out there hitting the streets that could do weird things to some people.

you heard "trace" amounts because thats what the parents said, there has been no official levels released.... of course the parents will say trace amounts, they aren't going to say he was whacked out of his mind....

**Crumbled_pavement** · June-28-12, 08:44 PM

Originally Posted by Goose

you heard "trace" amounts because thats what the parents said, there has been no official levels released.... of course the parents will say trace amounts, they aren't going to say he was whacked out of his mind....

And Goose, that's why we're glad you're here to give us your expert knowledge that in fact the thug Trayvon was whacked out of his mind. Thanks for that certifiable information you provided us with. I'm quite sure [[thanks to your excellent enlightenment) that Trayvon wasn't just a weed smoker, he probably smoke weed blunts laced with cocaine [[51/50). Thank God that Zimmerman stopped the thug Trayvon when he did. We could be looking at a mass murder scene if the good samaritan Zimmerman didn't stop Trayvon in time.

**rb336** · June-28-12, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by Goose

you heard "trace" amounts because thats what the parents said, there has been no official levels released.... of course the parents will say trace amounts, they aren't going to say he was whacked out of his mind....

actually, it was the autopsy that said trace amounts. 1.5 nanograms of THC [[that is 1.5 billionth of a gram) to be exact. basically 1/2 of a percent of the concentration after smoking. That indicates it had been at least days after he smoked up. the kid was hardly a pot fiend. there were also 7.5 nanograms of the metabolites of THC, also consistent with the kid not having gotten high in a while.

Why is it that you are so hell-bent to paint this kid the way you do? fact remains, had Z minded his own business instead of acting as a self-appointed watchman, or simply followed the directions of the dispatcher, or announced himself as neighborhood watch, the kid would be alive. If I had seen Z stalking the kid, I would have confronted him. who knows, then I might have been shot instead

**rb336** · June-28-12, 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by Meddle

From what I heard, there were only trace amounts that would have no effect.

Interestingly though, the Miami bridge zombie was clean EXCEPT for weed. No signs of salts or other hallucinogens. Not that that really has anything to do with this case, but there may be some bad stuff out there hitting the streets that could do weird things to some people.

or the face eater was simply a psycho like Dahmer

**Meddle** · June-29-12, 05:49 AM

I see a lot of it in the after-the-fact activists trying to stir things up.

I don't see it that night between the two involved.

**Papasito** · July-11-12, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by Meddle

I see a lot of it in the after-the-fact activists trying to stir things up.

Jessie and Reverend Al stirring the pot....

**Detroit Stylin** · July-12-12, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by Papasito

Jessie and Reverend Al stirring the pot....

Splain how so exactly?

**noise** · July-13-12, 07:40 AM

Originally Posted by Detroit Stylin

Splain how so exactly?

Because race issues can apparently only involve 100% Caucasian folks & 100% African-American folks. There are no other possibilities. George Zimmerman isn't 100% Caucasian, so there's NO WAY he can be racist!

Just like President Obama isn't 100% African-American so there's no way there's a racial bias against the man in any form whatsoever.