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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnnny5 View Post
    These laws did anything but "fly under the radar" when they were passed in Florida and in Michigan. I lived in Florida when this law was passed and had returned to Michigan by the time similar legislation was approved here. In both states the law received overwhelming support from the general public and passed through the legislature with support from both parties.

    One incident does not make these types of laws a failure. They were written to protect law abiding citizens from the acts of criminals, and that's exactly what they do.

    http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/01/st...-records-show/
    Zimmerman was not a law-abiding citizen. He was a menace to society...also known as a thug. Plus, he was mentally unstable and had poor decision-making and socialization skills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peppermint Patty View Post
    Zimmerman was not a law-abiding citizen. He was a menace to society...also known as a thug. Plus, he was mentally unstable and had poor decision-making and socialization skills.

    Peppermint Patty, I'm just curious, but what if Trayvon Martin had been a white 17 year old and Zimmerman a 28 year old black man? Would that change your opinion on who was at fault?


    IMO race actually has very little to do with this tragedy, but everything to do with the vast amount of publicity it has received. From what I have read about George Zimmerman he probably would have been just as quick to consider a unfamiliar white kid as suspicious.

    None of us know exactly what happened, and it is arrogant ignorance to claim that we do. The one thing I do know that it's going to be very difficult for the prosecution to get 12 jurors to convict Zimmerman of 2nd degree murder. He may very well be guilty of it, but there are so many questions surrounding the shooting that it will not take much for some of the jurors to see reasonable doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnnny5 View Post
    The one thing I do know that it's going to be very difficult for the prosecution to get 12 jurors to convict Zimmerman of 2nd degree murder. He may very well be guilty of it, but there are so many questions surrounding the shooting that it will not take much for some of the jurors to see reasonable doubt.
    Have you seen the recent information and pictures?

    I wouldn't be surprised to see a dismissal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meddle View Post
    Have you seen the recent information and pictures?

    I wouldn't be surprised to see a dismissal.
    I would not be surprised either, but I honestly hope at this point that that does not happen. Since he's already been charged I think the best thing is for a full and fair trial. Zimmerman and Trayvon's family both deserve to see all the evidence come forward and either clear Zimmerman of wrongdoing or punish him for his actions. Unfortunately, the public is not going to be happy either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnnny5 View Post
    Peppermint Patty, I'm just curious, but what if Trayvon Martin had been a white 17 year old and Zimmerman a 28 year old black man? Would that change your opinion on who was at fault?


    IMO race actually has very little to do with this tragedy, but everything to do with the vast amount of publicity it has received. From what I have read about George Zimmerman he probably would have been just as quick to consider a unfamiliar white kid as suspicious.

    None of us know exactly what happened, and it is arrogant ignorance to claim that we do. The one thing I do know that it's going to be very difficult for the prosecution to get 12 jurors to convict Zimmerman of 2nd degree murder. He may very well be guilty of it, but there are so many questions surrounding the shooting that it will not take much for some of the jurors to see reasonable doubt.
    Under the same circumstances if a Black 28 year old impulsive rent-a-cop wannabe shot and killed a White 17 year old child innocently walking from the store, I would be outraged and get out and protest for JUSTICE as well. But there would be no need for the protesting, unfortunately, because the Black impulsive rent-a-cop more than likely would have been shot and killed by the police officers upon them realizing that he killed a 17 year old child. IJS!

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    Withstanding the topic at hand and strong feelings regarding it, welcome to DYes Pepperment Patty! I love your handle!
    Quote Originally Posted by Peppermint Patty View Post
    Zimmerman was not a law-abiding citizen. He was a menace to society...also known as a thug. Plus, he was mentally unstable and had poor decision-making and socialization skills.

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    Thanks Zacha341!

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