Trayvon Martin: Amazed no one has posted this....

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But that brings up another question I hadn't considered until now. GZ says he was following TM on foot and lost sight of him. Why? Where did TM go? Did he go around a corner or into a doorway and GZ just didn't see him? Possible.

Or did TM duck behind something and hide waiting for GZ to get closer? Could he have been waiting to jump GZ?

There's just too much we don't know, and may never know, even if there is a trial.

Go back and read post #13. Trayvon was trying to escape some nut that was following him. Trayvon was trying to AVOID a confrontation. But GZ was having none of that. In GZ's own words, "These assholes always get away", "he looks like he's on drugs" , "there's something wrong with him". Clearly GZ had it in his mind that Trayvon was "an asshole" that needed to be stopped so that he wouldn't "get away".

GZ sought out Trayvon, followed him, confronted him, and executed him.

The 911 tapes show that it was GZ that started the chain of events. Suddenly at about the 2:20 mark, you hear wind blowing through the phone. That is when he was asked, "are you following him?" Obviously, the dispatcher picked up on the fact that he exited his vehicle when he could hear the wind blowing.

Who among us, would not defend ourselves if some nut that had been following you, got out of his vehicle and confronted you?

Who among us would not feel that our well being was threatened, if that happened?

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Go back and read post #13. Trayvon was trying to escape some nut that was following him. Trayvon was trying to AVOID a confrontation.

There's no proof of that. That's all speculation.

In fact, if you want to play that game, didn't the girlfriend say that TM said on their phone call that he wasn't going to run away?

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There's no proof of that. That's all speculation.

In fact, if you want to play that game, didn't the girlfriend say that TM said on their phone call that he wasn't going to run away?

Yes, she did say that. She also said that he told her he was going to walk fast instead. He only started to run after he thought he lost GZ. But GZ caught up and cornered him. That is what she said. She is telling us what TM told her.

Why do think he wanted to walk fast and then eventually run? Maybe because he was SCARED?

Who wouldn't be scared if you were being followed, then the guy GETS OUT HIS VEHICLE and comes after you?

The last moments of TM's life must have been terrifying.

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But GZ caught up and cornered him.

We don't know that.

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But GZ caught up and cornered him.

We don't know that.

Sure we do. Remember? TM is dead. Clearly, he caught up with him. Trust me on this one.

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Sure we do. Remember? TM is dead. Clearly, he caught up with him. Trust me on this one.

We don't know that GZ caught up with TM. The statement is that TM attacked GZ from behind while GZ was returning to his vehicle.

It's only rhetoric, rumor and gossip-mongering that says GZ 'caught up with' TM.

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There's no proof of that. That's all speculation.

In fact, if you want to play that game, didn't the girlfriend say that TM said on their phone call that he wasn't going to run away?

And in the theme of "playing the game", the 911 tapes corroborates what the girl is saying.

GZ by his own admission, is following TM, that is exactly what she said TM was telling her.