I loathe modern country music and don't really mingle with that crowd, either, but I respect the long standing the hoedown has in our city and at Hart Plaza, and it is certainly good to have a bunch of people come downtown and have fun.

If you've ever been to an event in that god-awful parking lot, it isn't fun. Especially in the summer - no shade and no place to sit. It's a fucking parking lot!

Only in Metro Detroit do you move a festival from a public plaza to a parking lot. You know when you visit other cities, especially in the summer time, there are usually public festivals, often street festivals, to go to for free.

The suburbs AND the city have really become soulless, unattractive places. You have two lifetyle choices here: ghetto or completely corporatized [[I also refer you back to the Hall Road thread). Which fresh hell would you like?