Future of Lakeside Mall

[jtf1972]

What lake is it near?

It is right next to Asphalt Lake. Duh.

[jcole]

If you google Lakeside Mall you will see that there is a large lake to the SE of the mall. I doubt that it was there before the mall was built, but it is a lake, nonetheless

[poobert]

What is interesting is that everyone here, in varying degrees and for varying reasons, seems to detest Hall Road. I think this is very telling. The M-59 corridor has to be just about the worst planning ever - exurban, big boxes, all lined down miles and miles of a high speed freeway. No sidewalks, no walkability from the residential, which are all likewise big box subdivisions.
I mean, who here thinks that is a good idea? How many people outside of the current generation of people already living there will want to live in such a place when those people move on, retire, or die? Especially since most of those came from the relative auto boom years of the 1990's. The auto companies are doing well but will never employ here at 1999 levels again. When those people retire there will be no jobs outside of Best Buy and the like, the vast majority of which you can't afford to live on.
The vulgar ugliness and impracticality of M-59 are almost as bad as the fact that there were people STUPID ENOUGH who allowed such poor development to happen in the first place, nay, encouraged it. Plenty of reasons to leave Metro Detroit.

[Gistok]

What is interesting is that everyone here, in varying degrees and for varying reasons, seems to detest Hall Road. I think this is very telling. The M-59 corridor has to be just about the worst planning ever - exurban, big boxes, all lined down miles and miles of a high speed freeway. No sidewalks, no walkability from the residential, which are all likewise big box subdivisions.
I mean, who here thinks that is a good idea? How many people outside of the current generation of people already living there will want to live in such a place when those people move on, retire, or die? Especially since most of those came from the relative auto boom years of the 1990's. The auto companies are doing well but will never employ here at 1999 levels again. When those people retire there will be no jobs outside of Best Buy and the like, the vast majority of which you can't afford to live on.
The vulgar ugliness and impracticality of M-59 are almost as bad as the fact that there were people STUPID ENOUGH who allowed such poor development to happen in the first place, nay, encouraged it. Plenty of reasons to leave Metro Detroit.

The irony here is that M-59 should have had the freeway continued from Mound Rd. on thru to I-94. That way all the folks who are only passing thru would not be comingling with the local retail traffic. But there is such an anti-freeway mindset on this forum, that had that happened, even then people would be complaining. I'm not sure having 3 lanes of service drive to handle local traffic would have been the best solution... but what is there right now is a "bumper car ride" roadway.

And your retiree comment argument can be made for practically any location city suburban, exurban. My brother lives 1/2 mile from that stretch of M-59. His recently married son lives 2 miles from that roadway... so I would venture that we're talking about more than 1 generation of folks that want to live along this roadway already. So the demise of this area is so far into the future, that other areas will have failed long before this one does.

[Bham1982]

Lakeside Mall has already been harmed by Partridge Creek.

A number of the more upscale retailers at Lakeside left when Partridge Creek opened.

But I don't think Lakeside is in danger of becoming a Northland/Eastland dead/dying mall. An Oakland/Fairlane "so-so, and surviving" scenario sounds most likely.

Non-upscale malls are in big trouble, because they tend to be older and poorly located, and their anchor stores, especially Sears and JCPenney, are in bad shape.

[ghettopalmetto]

Non-upscale malls are in big trouble, because they tend to be older and poorly located, and their anchor stores, especially Sears and JCPenney, are in bad shape.

Why did developers build the "non-upscale" malls in poor locations in the first place?

[Bham1982]

Why did developers build the "non-upscale" malls in poor locations in the first place?

Well, for the most part, these malls were very well located when first opened.

Northland & Eastland were dream locations in the 50's. They're bad locations in 2012.

[ghettopalmetto]

Well, for the most part, these malls were very well located when first opened.

Northland & Eastland were dream locations in the 50's. They're bad locations in 2012.

And why do you suppose that is?