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    Quote Originally Posted by Gistok View Post
    The irony here is that M-59 should have had the freeway continued from Mound Rd. on thru to I-94. That way all the folks who are only passing thru would not be comingling with the local retail traffic. But there is such an anti-freeway mindset on this forum, that had that happened, even then people would be complaining. I'm not sure having 3 lanes of service drive to handle local traffic would have been the best solution... but what is there right now is a "bumper car ride" roadway.

    And your retiree comment argument can be made for practically any location city suburban, exurban. My brother lives 1/2 mile from that stretch of M-59. His recently married son lives 2 miles from that roadway... so I would venture that we're talking about more than 1 generation of folks that want to live along this roadway already. So the demise of this area is so far into the future, that other areas will have failed long before this one does.
    No, that's impossible. No young people want to live anywhere other than downtown, in walkable, transit-oriented development. You are making this up and making lots of urbanists wince and cry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Det_ard View Post
    No, that's impossible. No young people want to live anywhere other than downtown, in walkable, transit-oriented development. You are making this up and making lots of urbanists wince and cry.
    You're right. Southeast Michigan, and Michigan as a whole, is obviously a model for good, well-planned, sustainable development. We saw that in the last census.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poobert View Post
    You're right. Southeast Michigan, and Michigan as a whole, is obviously a model for good, well-planned, sustainable development. We saw that in the last census.
    The last census saw growth in the area being discussed, but of course everyone who thinks that mass transit is kinda down the list of "front burner" issues in this region is an idiot, according to some here. Anyone who thinks that there is actually growing diversity in the suburbs of this regions is an idiot. And, of course, to think that an issue like economic diversity is more front burner than "the problem" of having two malls in a relatively densly [[by almost any standard) populated area 20 miles outside of the City, is, somewhat predictably, considered idiocy. To some here. Repeatedly.
    Last edited by bartock; March-07-12 at 08:00 PM. Reason: typo

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    Quote Originally Posted by bartock View Post
    everyone who thinks that mass transit is kinda down the list of "front burner" issues in this region is an idiot
    Well said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by antongast View Post
    Well said.
    "The last census saw growth in the area being discussed, but of course everyone who thinks that mass transit is kinda down the list of "front burner" issues in this region is an idiot, according to some here. Anyone who thinks that there is actually growing diversity in the suburbs of this regions is an idiot. And, of course, to think that an issue like economic diversity is more front burner than "the problem" of having two malls in a relatively densly [[by almost any standard) populated area 20 miles outside of the City, is, somewhat predictably, considered idiocy. To some here. Repeatedly."

    Thanks! I knew someone as so clearly intelligent as you wouldn't even have the capacity to cherry-pick a couple of words out of context and pretend to post them as truth, just to pretend to be clever!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bartock View Post
    Thanks! I knew someone as so clearly intelligent as you wouldn't even have the capacity to cherry-pick a couple of words out of context and pretend to post them as truth, just to pretend to be clever!
    Just because you didn't mean it doesn't mean it's not the truth.

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