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    Quote Originally Posted by Occurrence View Post
    People who say we are putting emphasis on arbitrary lines and boarders, why are there so many suburbs and municipalities? Exactly how many suburbs are there anyways? Why don't they consolidate so we have less?
    Because those boundaries don't matter. Just ignore that they are there. When we need you, we are all one. When we don't need you, you're on your own.

    - Regionalism, Detroit Style 2012

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    Quote Originally Posted by rbdetsport View Post
    Lowell, I think you are mistaken when you say that the younger demographic does not appreciate Clint Eastwood. I myself and many others that I know love Clint Eastwood and the general concensus is that he is "The Man". I would compare the younger generations love for Clint Eastwood to their love for Ron Paul. It is like the fossil that we can still relate to. Anyone who has seen Gran Torino and even his older movies can do nothing but appreciate who he is and what he has stood for. He stands up for Detroit, which is more than I can say about most well-off people.
    rbdetsport.... I agree... and then there's Betty White...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcole View Post
    F[[irst) [[O)n [[R)ace [[D)ay
    Fix Or Repair Daily

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikeg View Post
    Fix Or Repair Daily
    Found On Road Dead

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    Quote Originally Posted by rbdetsport View Post
    Wasn't saying Ron Paul stood for Detroit at all....I wasn't even even saying I support Ron Paul. Just being real in that the younger voting population would prefer Ron Paul over any of the other Republican candidates.
    That's only because they love his views on drugs, nothing really else.

  6. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by 313WX View Post
    That's only because they love his views on drugs, nothing really else.
    Right right. Nice work, lumping the entire "younger voting population" into one amorphous, dope-happy mass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wheels View Post
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    That's what I was rebutting. Read the first page of the thread.

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    "Detroit" means much more then the physical boundaries of the city. It's a concept, an image - to the rest of the U.S. I live in Iowa and have never lived in Detroit. Henry Ford moved out of Detroit. Chrysler. But the region and the concept has never waivered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravine View Post
    Right right. Nice work, lumping the entire "younger voting population" into one amorphous, dope-happy mass.
    I'm not lumping the entire younger voting population into anything first off.

    Second, if young people want to have any taste of the living standard their baby boomer parents had [[thanks to what many call Socialism now), Ron Paul would be the LAST person they want to support, who wants to take us right back to the pre-New Deal era [[if not colonial era).
    Last edited by 313WX; February-07-12 at 12:10 AM.

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    It was a good commercial. It was nice to see that they once again showed the Flag at Tiger Stadium in the commercial.

    I was actually one of the people responcible for putting that flag up, and this makes 2 years in a row they showed that flag during the superbowl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occurrence View Post
    Oh great, another cliched commercial to get some of the sheeple here to break out in tears.

    If Chrysler is so proud of the city, why don't they move their corporate headquarters back?
    Because relocating 12,000 people from the second largest office building in the world 30 miles would cost billions of dollars. Thats a stupid idea...

    There was already rumors about Chrylser snagging some office space downtown somewhere.

    I'm proud of my city and I don't live in it, do I have to move to prove I care?
    Last edited by BEEAH; February-08-12 at 12:03 AM.

  12. #87

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    "What lies ahead in the second half? Apparently all that matters is that Scott Walker gets recalled, the President wins a second term, taxpayers forget about that $1.3 billion and everyone just keeps on believing that "Detroit’s showing us it can be done".

    Last time I checked, it wasn't GM or Chrysler that was responsible for blowing up the US economy. That's the responsibility of the geniuses on Wall Street who took hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars, used that money to boost their bottom lines and showered themselves with massive bonuses and haven't done anything to clean up their act while acting as if they did nothing wrong. In comparison, the sins of GM and Chrysler pale in comparison. But Wall Street workers aren't represented by a union so the right-wing couldn't care less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BEEAH View Post
    Because relocating 12,000 people from the second largest office building in the world 30 miles would cost billions of dollars. Thats a stupid idea...
    Yet it wasn't a stupid idea when they wanted nothing to do with Detroit or its enclave and they built this expensive office in what was the middle of nowhere back in the 1980s.

    Nice double standard there...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gistok View Post
    Nice ad... a lot of people liked it, the same usual folks didn't...

    Anyone with 50 posts and half a brain would know that Chrysler is Detroit's largest employer, and quit bitching about the location of the HQ.

    Eastwood is a "tough old bird"... and I think he did a good job of showing that Detroit can be the same. And lets not forget that last years announcer didn't exactly have a soft voice either. Here's a comment about the commercial...

    "The 81-year-old Academy Award-winner kept returning to the mantra that it's "halftime in America" while it was, in fact, halftime at the Super Bowl. Eastwood conceded the struggles that the auto industry -- as well as the entire nation -- have faced in recent years but his tone was ultimately defiant and optimistic, looking ahead to the so-called second half. The powerful ad was certainly a departure from the rest of the day's offerings and left many people applauding."

    This appears to have struck another positive chord among Americans.

    If He would be alive I'd vote for Paul Newman as a spokesman in such a commercial. But Clint is a great second choice in the absence of the first.


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    Please... not an acronym battle again. And don't you post the Pontiac one here!

  16. #91

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    Meanwhile....

    The commercial has already been lampooned by The Second City network. What would have happened to Detroit without stimulus. It's a spoof but with a serious undertone. This is what will happen with mister cut-cut-cut-fire as commander in Chief, the callous and heartless Mitt Romney.


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    Default ‘Halftime in America’ and controversy over ad both miss an important Detroit reality

    Rose says, “We have to see what’s invisible in this ad. Not only is it a pro-Chrysler ad, as if Chrysler is itself Detroit, but it does it by showing this world where even when there are racially ambiguous minorities, they’re mostly predominantly white…in a city that is 80 percent African American. It’s very important to see what’s missing in this ad — it pulls on our heartstrings and all of our fears to galvanize our support of a corporate agenda as if it’s the equivalent of a citizenry.”

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    First off, as a fiscal conservative, I see absolutely no Obama endorsement in this commercial. It's simply Chrysler saying, we [[company, city, state, country) were down, but now we're coming back, and it's time to get the rest of the way up.

    As to the auto bailout, I was staunchly against it. I felt they companies needed to fail and that the unions would only step down if the companies were allowed to fail.

    I most certainly was wrong. The auto bailouts did an unbelievable amount of good for Detroit and the country. Also, the unions fell in line and took the concessions they needed to start to take.

    I still think more union reform is needed, but we're headed in the right direction.

  19. #94

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    It is NOT Halftime in Detroit. Clint Eastwood Got it Wrong:

    http://happyfrogdetroit.com/ron-will...-new-ball-game

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    The best part about this commercial is that is brought some good honest debate amongst the natives. There is a separation.

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    I am in no way shape or form a Republican , but have to give credit where its due . Bush thought up the bailout , but didn't implement it .

    http://www.dailytech.com/Bush+Defend...ticle23952.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Novine View Post
    Last time I checked, it wasn't GM or Chrysler that was responsible for blowing up the US economy. That's the responsibility of the geniuses on Wall Street who took hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars, used that money to boost their bottom lines and showered themselves with massive bonuses and haven't done anything to clean up their act while acting as if they did nothing wrong. In comparison, the sins of GM and Chrysler pale in comparison. But Wall Street workers aren't represented by a union so the right-wing couldn't care less.
    All I hear are crickets from the right wing cons.

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    Last one, Here's Saturday Night Live.

    Quite funny!

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    I like the SNL one better. Chrysler should hire them next time.

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