Detroit vs. Toronto

[DetroitPole]

The decline from the 60's to the 90's is very analogous to Detroit. The difference is that Quebec is allowed to give extra visas to attract about 45,000 immigrants per year to Quebec, mainly from the Francophone world, through special immigration quotas given to Quebec. About 3/4 of these immigrants settle in Montreal.

http://www.micc.gouv.qc.ca/publicati...syn_an2010.pdf

This program is not ideal [[many immigrants are from tertiary areas of francophony and about 20% leave for other parts of Canada as soon as they can), but it has helped stanch the deep population drop of Detroit and the stagnation of Metro Detroit as a whole.

The immigration reminds me of Hamtramck. It is virtually the only thing that sustains that small city. It used to be 2nd World immigration [[eastern bloc) and now is largely from developing nations.[[Bangladesh and Yemen, two of the world's poorest nations). Yet the city still plods along.

I think the comparisons are as fair and useful as any comparison could be. Detroit used to be a great city, but the Metro leadership did nearly everything wrong they could possibly do for the past 60 years. If you want a recipe for a thriving, vibrant region, city planners, do the opposite of everything that has been done in Metro Detroit.

Hell, people talk about Montreal like it's bad. Compared to Detroit, it is Nirvana. And they had a separtist movement to contend with!!!

But hey, Livonia has Trinity Health now and there is even a bowling alley you can drive to.

[oladub]

The median sales price for homes in Detroit MI for Jul 11 to Sep 11 was $69,500.
http://www.trulia.com/real_estate/De...market-trends/

The average home sale price in the City of Toronto is $535,807.
http://www.mississauga4sale.com/TREBprice.htm

[13074Glenfield]

...toronto also has canada's health care system.. but people don't want that here.. ah well..

The Canadians crossing the border to get medical treatment in the US, like Quebec's premier, Robert Bourassa, did for his cancer treatments, don't seem to want it either. It's one of those systems that works great until you get really sick.

[GOAT]

Uh yeah Glenfield and the vast majority of it is covered by our healthcare. The difference being we need more doctors and specialists.

Lets compare that to the 75% of all bankruptcies in the USA caused by the current healthcare system you have. And most of those had some kind of insurance [[from Mens Health Magazine).

But I don't want to sidetrack tis ridiculous comparison. T.O is also the Capital of Ontario where a lot of gov't workers live and work; it is also the financial district of Canada as well.

[canuck]

The Canadians crossing the border to get medical treatment in the US, like Quebec's premier, Robert Bourassa, did for his cancer treatments, don't seem to want it either. It's one of those systems that works great until you get really sick.

Sorry Glenfield for impalin' your comment;

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/20...canada-travel/

[Magnatomicflux]

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Lets compare that to the 75% of all bankruptcies in the USA caused by the current healthcare system you have. And most of those had some kind of insurance [[from Mens Health Magazine).

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Yup. Hell....even having a baby as I'm sure you all know will break the bank, upwards of 10K in the States with no insurance...maybe more? That's just the birthin', not the stay!!!

Costs us zip, nadda, zero.

What's a broken leg cost? 26K???? Something like that?

I'd much rather pay higher taxes then loose my house over an injury or sickness.

canuck - impalin' LOL