Occupy Detroit

[rid0617]

Even as a conservative I agree with the majority of their gripes. Best politicians money can buy. Corporations are so greedy now they outsource labor putting Americans out of work in favor of mega profits.

They are bailed out, become profitable again and all they do is pay bigger bonuses while sticking us with higher rates and additional fees. Totally against NAFTA. Could go on and on but you folks get the idea I'm making.

Kudos to the other Vietnam vet. Did time there myself and still paying the price thanks to Agent Orange. We were told we were supposed to go fight for our country even though Vietnam never invaded us. We were told we were fighting to stop the spread of communism because it was the enemy. Now you go to Walmart and other stores to look at clothing that says MADE IN VIETNAM. Guess that communism wasn't so bad when it was profitable. In the meantime the grace of God and 36 pills a day because I went there is what keeps me here posting.

[RaumVogel]

Good post, rid0617. I was a teenage when the Vietnam war ended, so most of my childhood, I wondered if I was going myself. After it was over I WAS SHOCKED by how fast our corporations and government wanted to start doing business with China. All I could think of was "Wow, our soldiers gave everything to "Stop the spread of Communism" and now we turn right around and send jobs over there.

Here's a little joke link on how people are feeling these days:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGIY5Vyj4YM

Ah, the memories..

[Lowell]

So what happened last night? How was the turnout?

[Danny]

We are the 99% Party. The 1% will have to contribute to save this nation from G.R.E.E.D. Corporation. Proletariats will march and thump at the rich. We proles made them rich and we can make them poor. We don't have to shop at their big box stores, or go the malls. We don't have to go to McDonalds or Burger King. We don't have to shop at Krogers or Meijers. We don't have to deposit our money into corporate owned banks from Bank of America to Comerica.

We don't have to vote neither Republican or Democrat. But stay independent or socialist. We can create mom and pop jobs instead of serving the corporations in order to recieve slave wages. We are the 99% Party [[under the phantom of Guy Fawkes). We will not leave Wall Street or other places until Kleptocrats and their Plutomononies break away from the U.S. Government for good. Uprise my conrads! The American Spring is here. Let's free America from the corporations for have invaded the middle and poor.

[Searay215]

We are the 99% Party. The 1% will have to contribute to save this nation from G.R.E.E.D. Corporation. Proletariats will march and thump at the rich. We proles made them rich and we can make them poor. We don't have to shop at their big box stores, or go the malls. We don't have to go to McDonalds or Burger King. We don't have to shop at Krogers or Meijers. We don't have to deposit our money into corporate owned banks from Bank of America to Comerica.

We don't have to vote neither Republican or Democrat. But stay independent or socialist. We can create mom and pop jobs instead of serving the corporations in order to recieve slave wages. We are the 99% Party [[under the phantom of Guy Fawkes). We will not leave Wall Street or other places until Kleptocrats and their Plutomononies break away from the U.S. Government for good. Uprise my conrads! The American Spring is here. Let's free America from the corporations for have invaded the middle and poor.

Damn, I want what ever Danny is smoking....holy crap!!! That is some good stuff!!! As he [[Danny) types on his Corporate made computer, chowing down on his corporate made food.

You don't have to go to those stores or buy any of those products or services.....But I bet you do!!!!!!! Hypocrite!!!!!

[Danny]

Damn, I want what ever Danny is smoking....holy crap!!! That is some good stuff!!! As he [[Danny) types on his Corporate made computer, chowing down on his corporate made food.

You don't have to go to those stores or buy any of those products or services.....But I bet you do!!!!!!! Hypocrite!!!!!

It's my desicision whether to shop or not at those corporate owned stores. I've stop eating McDonald's after their food is mostly made out of gluten and sugar 3 years ago. I stop shopping at Wal-Mart 5 years ago after it mistreat its workers. I stop shopping at department stores from Macy's to Sea'rs due their rediculous prices. I mostly shop and at stores, markets and restaurants that supports socialist cause. Do you part and don't feed the pigs.

[Searay215]

It's my desicision whether to shop or not at those corporate owned stores. I've stop eating McDonald's after their food is mostly made out of gluten and sugar 3 years ago. I stop shopping at Wal-Mart 5 years ago after it mistreat its workers. I stop shopping at department stores from Macy's to Sea'rs due their rediculous prices. I mostly shop and at stores, markets and restaurants that supports socialist cause. Do you part and don't feed the pigs.

Well tell me then where do you shop for clothes, food, cleaning products and eat....? I'll bet you don't tell me..... I will shop, eat and bank where ever I damn well want!!

[socks_mahoney]

Damn, I want what ever Danny is smoking....holy crap!!! That is some good stuff!!! As he [[Danny) types on his Corporate made computer, chowing down on his corporate made food.

You don't have to go to those stores or buy any of those products or services.....But I bet you do!!!!!!! Hypocrite!!!!!

This argument is a total red herring. The computer that Danny [[and all of us) can be manufactured in any type of economy. Computers are not unique to capitalism. We can make computers in all sorts of economic systems. In fact, chances are Danny's computer was made in communist China.

[Goose]

This argument is a total red herring. The computer that Danny [[and all of us) can be manufactured in any type of economy. Computers are not unique to capitalism. We can make computers in all sorts of economic systems. In fact, chances are Danny's computer was made in communist China.

so true

innovators like Steve Jobs are free to invent great products here in the United States, to have manufactured by super cheap slave labor in communist China by people that couldn't afford the internet much less the products they are making...

hurray for communism... maybe you and I can work together in the Nike shoe factory, comrade?

[Searay215]

This argument is a total red herring. The computer that Danny [[and all of us) can be manufactured in any type of economy. Computers are not unique to capitalism. We can make computers in all sorts of economic systems. In fact, chances are Danny's computer was made in communist China.

I think you are missing the point...it is not a red herring. The point is that a Major Corporation which you seem to hate is profiting from the very products you all use. So Communist China is only in name, there are more millionairs there than there are here....again GREED!!

And as I pointed out to Danny and all of you protesters you all use and love all the greedy corporations and buy and use their products....

Also as I pointed out Danny if you want Socialism....well then move to Cuba, where that exists. We the majority of American do not want that. You call yourselves the 99%ers, yet you do not actually represent the majority.

Do the majority of Americans see corporate greed out of control yes....do we like it no. Is it going to change...maybe a little.

I'll think about you guys when its 20 below and I am in my warm home that was paid for by working for those corporations and my stock dividens.

I just saw Kanye West today side by side with the protestersin NY in his $300 shirt and enough gold around his neck to pay for food to feed a small city......saying he feels your pain.....real nice!!

Now I'm going to watch The Tigers [[Little Ceasers - Greedy) on my nice 55" Sony [[Greedy) TV, while I have a few Buds [[Greedy) and relax on my again Leather couch [[Greedy).......Have a nice time on the streets on the 14th...Rainy and 53 degrees.

[kryptonite]

This is a similar time to the mid/late 1970's regarding college graduates and jobs.

I graduated 1978 and like most of my friends spent a few years waiting tables or working at whatever low-paying job you could find. The only college graduates getting jobs immediately after graduating were nursing students. The rest of us were part of a huge wave of graduates with zero job prospects.

It took 5-7 years for people in my social circle to find jobs, and like myself few found them in fields that they had majored in.

The industry of higher education in the US is not telling potential students that part of the story. While I agree that a college degree is excellent, it never guarantees a job sad to say.

I tend to vote Democratic, and my personal feeling is that Republicans in Congress do not want to pass a jobs bill before the next election. If such a bill were to pass and have any impact on the unemployment rate then that could assure President Obama would be re-elected.

Both parties fail Americans. They vote their party line or personal agenda or to pander to special interest, and few seem to vote in ways that benefit their constituents.

[Danny]

This is a similar time to the mid/late 1970's regarding college graduates and jobs.

I graduated 1978 and like most of my friends spent a few years waiting tables or working at whatever low-paying job you could find. The only college graduates getting jobs immediately after graduating were nursing students. The rest of us were part of a huge wave of graduates with zero job prospects.

It took 5-7 years for people in my social circle to find jobs, and like myself few found them in fields that they had majored in.

The industry of higher education in the US is not telling potential students that part of the story. While I agree that a college degree is excellent, it never guarantees a job sad to say.

I tend to vote Democratic, and my personal feeling is that Republicans in Congress do not want to pass a jobs bill before the next election. If such a bill were to pass and have any impact on the unemployment rate then that could assure President Obama would be re-elected.

Both parties fail Americans. They vote their party line or personal agenda or to pander to special interest, and few seem to vote in ways that benefit their constituents.

That's right Kryptonite! 40% of students who graduated from any college will never guarantee a dream job. Most them will end up working at McDonald's or Burger King. When I graduated from Wayne State, I immediate started my own indpendent film business called "Rennaisance Pictures" I have three locations in Detroit, Farmington Hills and Livonia and I gave 3 client companies helping me and film crew out. So far I've produced 2 movies and more proposed film is coming soon next year. I recruited several college students who graduated with no decent film carreer. Now they are helping me making movies so one day they would be getting into better careers. My film company is NOT a corporation, its non-profit and its income is equally shared along the masses.

Getting into any decent job after college is very difficult if you don't get into any interships or sticking with tthe correct major or minor positions. My sister just landed immediately a 125,000 a year salary at Boeing. She is in charge is security [[ Including taking charge of Air Force One when President Obama gets on). My brother in law also works as en engineer at Boeing earning over 100,000 a year salary.

Sometimes these days, its seems that corporations will hire those who have the "right stuff" and skills or knowing someone in the business as in " capture theory!" Even if your get hire on a company or corporations, you're going to have to follow their rules because they want our money from the proletariats wallets in the pockets.

[Lowell]

My little birdies are telling me that there were about 300 people at the planning session and that Grand Circus will be the occupation site. Also that there will be a gathering on Friday at the Spirit of Detroit at 4 and a march to Grand Circus Park at 6 and the occupation will commence.

[Downtown Lady]

Are you referring to this Friday, Lowell [[meaning they're beginning sooner than originally expected)? Or do you mean Friday, October 21? I think that was the start date mentioned earlier.

[epiphany]

Are you referring to this Friday, Lowell [[meaning they're beginning sooner than originally expected)? Or do you mean Friday, October 21? I think that was the start date mentioned earlier.

They have changed the date to THIS Friday because that's what they decided on at the meeting yesterday. They will still be meeting at MCS the Friday after as planned, but the main event has been moved up.

[Traxus]

They have changed the date to THIS Friday because that's what they decided on at the meeting yesterday. They will still be meeting at MCS the Friday after as planned, but the main event has been moved up.

Grand circus park is the location, consensus was reached last night to relocate. MCS, as most of us agree, is too far removed, both physically and logically from the intended message of the occupation.

[johnkuhnphoto]

the meeting went great. thanks for asking. we had around 600-800 people show up. the date time and location have changed. Date is October 14, 2011. Location and time: we are meeting at the spirit of detroit at 4pm and will be marching to grand circus park at 6pm. again all are welcome

[1953]

Interesting review on this movement in the NY Times today:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/11/op...mv&ref=general

[Downtown Lady]

Interesting review on this movement in the NY Times today:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/11/op...mv&ref=general

Do you mean "interesting" as in "dismissive"? Here is another opinion from the New York Times, that of Paul Krugman, winner of the Nobel Prize in Economics:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/07/op...tors.html?_r=1

[Bham1982]

Why aren't they planning to march in front of GM HQ?

Those greedy capitalists need to be shut down! They took a bailout, now where's ours?They're obviously stealing from us in the "99%"!

/sarcasm

[Lowell]

Interesting review on this movement in the NY Times today:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/11/op...mv&ref=general

David Brooks, nice guy but totally predictable from the former editor of the right-wing Weekly Standard and the NYT's token conservative. Hardly man bites dog stuff.

[BagAJellyDonuts]

Capitalism is great.

Too bad we have a bunch of political hacks that don't believe in it.

They seem to be interested in maintaining an elected monarchy.

[Jimaz]

Archie McPhee has the Guy Fawkes masks. Pricey at $8 but it's a cool looking mask.

[Searay215]

Archie McPhee has the Guy Fawkes masks. Pricey at $8 but it's a cool looking mask.

Stand up and be seen!!! No guts no glory......don't hide behind a mask, its not Holloween.

[Jimaz]

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Occupy Detroit, with Activist/Poet Susan Sunshine--Welcome to Your World

There's slackers that are rich but they can be like that because their parents support them or something.

Wait. Develop that thought. How odd is it that the rich slackers are criticized less than the working poor? Is it that the working poor are insufficiently lazy?