Occupy Detroit

[bailey]

They have a permit, a cordial relationship with the city government never hurt anybody
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Please return to sniping at things you don't understand

Um... maybe i missed it, but isnt the whole OWS protest about how cordial relationships between the government and favored groups is EXACTLY what hurt EVERYONE?

A little hypocritical to cheer when local government allows favored causes preferential treatment isn't it? Not exactly in keeping with the message... but I guess all is fair in propaganda politics. I mean, I'm sure you'd be just as supportive if the Teabaggers invaded GCP without a permit for a few weeks..right?

From yesterday...

There's no permit required to simply show up and protest in Grand Circus Park, but you do need a permit to camp out. Occupy Detroit says they know they need that permit and are reapplying for one. That could take up to two weeks before it even goes to City Council to approve.So, why are they being allowed to continue to camp out? We posed that question to the city and its police department. The latter said they are simply monitoring the group every day.
Meanwhile, in all fairness to the city, the person in charge of approving those type of permits was not in the office on Monday. A spokesperson for the mayor's office says they have reached out to the protesters asking them to make it a shorter camping period. So far, they have not heard back from the demonstrators.

I really don't care one way or another, I'm really just curious....do they have a permit or not?

[RaumVogel]

I think Planner just stopped by to tell us he's above the rest. I haven't even seen any posts by him before.

[Gistok]

I think Planner just stopped by to tell us he's above the rest. I haven't even seen any posts by him before.

Must not be a real happy camper... cuz.generally they're snarky....

[oldredfordette]

1) They have a permit.

2) I don't have time to explain the Occupy movement, plus you are just being a jerk. Suffice it to say the target is not the people who work for the city of Detroit who have to deal with this stuff. They are also the 99% [[but you knew that).

[bailey]

1) They have a permit.

2) I don't have time to explain the Occupy movement, plus you are just being a jerk. Suffice it to say the target is not the people who work for the city of Detroit who have to deal with this stuff. They are also the 99% [[but you knew that).

1. if they have a permit they got it through special means not available to anyone else.

2. I'm just pointing out the hypocritical nature of using special "ins" with a sympathetic government and then protesting the very same thing done by others.

Occupy Detroit COULD have gone through the proper channels to get the permit. Actually they did that and it was refused because the permit available did not contemplate the use occupy detroit wanted. So, if they are staying there for 60 days, they apparently have received a special permit that, prior to this event, never allowed for the length of time.

four legs good, two legs bad.

[epiphany]

1. if they have a permit they got it through special means not available to anyone else.

2. I'm just pointing out the hypocritical nature of using special "ins" with a sympathetic government and then protesting the very same thing done by others.

Occupy Detroit COULD have gone through the proper channels to get the permit. They didn't . Further they apparently have received a special permit that, prior to this event, never allowed for the length of time they wish to stay camped out.

four legs good, two legs bad.

Who cares? I don't personally care about whether they have a permit or not. The notion of needing a permit to occupy public space is ridiculous in the first place. Furthermore, they are providing a great service to the homeless community by providing clothing, food, and even medical care to those in need. Personally, these are the types of people that I would want as neighbors. It's not like they are having wild parties in the night or being disruptive and they aren't stopping you from using the park, either. So, respect what they are doing and get over it. I am really getting tired of this outpouring of negativity from people that probably never even use the park and just want to complain to complain.

[bailey]

Who cares? I don't personally care about whether they have a permit or not. The notion of needing a permit to occupy public space is ridiculous in the first place. Furthermore, they are providing a great service to the homeless community by providing clothing, food, and even medical care to those in need. Personally, these are the types of people that I would want as neighbors. It's not like they are having wild parties in the night or being disruptive and they aren't stopping you from using the park, either. So, respect what they are doing and get over it. I am really getting tired of this outpouring of negativity from people that probably never even use the park and just want to complain to complain.

So, just to be clear... you don't care when people choose not to follow the rules or they use connections in government to subvert rules, so long as it is to accomplish something you agree with.

[oldredfordette]

I'm with you, Epiphany, enough with dismissive pricks who think they're scoring points.

[Melocoton]

I really don't care one way or another, I'm really just curious....do they have a permit or not?

I don't care either.

[j to the jeremy]

So, just to be clear... you don't care when people choose not to follow the rules or they use connections in government to subvert rules, so long as it is to accomplish something you agree with.

So, just to be clear... are you trying to argue that you are in total agreement with the banks screwing us? Because it sounds like you're trying to compare a local permit process with a $700 Billion dollar bailout, and it makes you look like Archie Bunker mixed with Grandpa Simpson.

[epiphany]

So, just to be clear... are you trying to argue that you are in total agreement with the banks screwing us? Because it sounds like you're trying to compare a local permit process with a $700 Billion dollar bailout, and it makes you look like Archie Bunker mixed with Grandpa Simpson.

Who cares if the banks screw us. These people feeding and clothing homeless people in the park have got to GO!

Get your priorities straight!

[j to the jeremy]

Who cares if the banks screw us. These people feeding and clothing homeless people in the park have got to GO!

Get your priorities straight!

You're right, looking at homeless people makes me question my faith in the almighty dollar and deregulated laissez-faire capitalism! Let's get rid of them to prove how well our system works!

Anyone else remember when they dumped all the homeless on Belle Isle for a weekend so the tourists could enjoy the $uper Bowl in "peace"?

[epiphany]

So, just to be clear... you don't care when people choose not to follow the rules or they use connections in government to subvert rules, so long as it is to accomplish something you agree with.

I don't care if people sleep in a public park. Let's not get things twisted. Even if it was a group of religious zealots camping out in the park and holding up anti abortion dead baby fetus signs I wouldn't care. I'd simply ignore them. I really don't know the specific laws regarding public parks, but I do know that people have been sleeping in parks and setting up camps in parks long before OWS.

[Danny]

PROLETARIAT NEWS!


The 99 Percenters have march into Bank of America to protest against their greed against the hard working American People. Some gave up their savings and other bank accounts other march outside. My Conrads! The war is not over. We must show those corporations their greed is a crime. Make more protest against Comerica, Chase, PNC, and National City. Take your accounts to socialist credit union. The people's bank will take of you. Let those banks FAIL so that new proletarian competition and real capitalism is restored in new socialist nation on the United States in the near future.

WORD FROM THE STREET PROPHET

From the Spirit of Guy Fawkes, We are the 99%. Neda, I miss you so.

[j to the jeremy]

PROLETARIAT NEWS!


The 99 Percenters have march into Bank of America to protest against their greed against the hard working American People. Some gave up their savings and other bank accounts other march outside. My Conrads! The war is not over. We must show those corporations their greed is a crime. Make more protest against Comerica, Chase, PNC, and National City. Take your accounts to socialist credit union. The people's bank will take of you. Let those banks FAIL so that new proletarian competition and real capitalism is restored in new socialist nation on the United States in the near future.

WORD FROM THE STREET PROPHET

From the Spirit of Guy Fawkes, We are the 99%. Neda, I miss you so.

I love this site

[bailey]

Who cares if the banks screw us. These people feeding and clothing homeless people in the park have got to GO!

Get your priorities straight!

So, again, it's a more relativist logic we're using here? these are just "little" laws and the juice used with the local constabulary is for the "right" issues? Look, all I am confused about is why the rules don't apply to occupy detroit? What other rules won't apply to this protest? I understand it's a minor point. But it would appear that "following the rules" and keeping special interests from influencing government are some pretty big issues in these demostrations. Openly flouting the law and then using pull with the government to get special favors seems to be a weird place to start.

It's great they're handing out food, but, are you telling me it would be impossible to accomplish the same thing from a warehouse on Bagely? or over near the Packard Plant. or anywhere else in the city? Why must they take over a park? What gives them the right to make it off limits to any other use for the next two months...or however long they plan on staying?

and orf, why don't you pull that giant stick out of your ass. The occupy folks could use the fire wood.

[j to the jeremy]

They're not occupying the whole park. Only one side has tents on it, and they have a 60 day permit to do so. This has been done countless times in America. But hey, you're obviously peeved by it, which I know would make them all happy. Public space is a human right, and I bet you'll be hard pressed to find anyone walking through Grand Circus who both LIVES in the city, and Opposes the "occupation".

[Danny]

They're not occupying the whole park. Only one side has tents on it, and they have a 60 day permit to do so. This has been done countless times in America. But hey, you're obviously peeved by it, which I know would make them all happy. Public space is a human right, and I bet you'll be hard pressed to find anyone walking through Grand Circus who both LIVES in the city, and Opposes the "occupation".

After those 60 days the 99% will either renew their permit to stay at Grand Circus Park or occupy somewhere esle, but near Downtown Detroit so we can attack those greedy corporations with peace. The 99 Percenters will not be moved from any city where evil corporations make their stronghold. Having occupy Detroit called off means that corporations will win. Spring, Summer, Autumn and Winter the 99 Percenters will occupy every city in the world until the corporations and government relationship is over. The proletariat middle class and poor will be fed and treated, and a new global socialist government is revised. Stay and occupy my conrads. Free the world from corporate slavery!


WORD FROM THE STREET PROPHET

For the 99 Perceneters and the Spirit of Guy Fawkes. Neda, I miss you so.

[Scottathew]

I am in the 1% of richest people in the world according to this website:

http://www.globalrichlist.com/



It's very interesting!

The site claims that if you make more than $47,500 a year, you're in the top 1%.

Better yet, anyone making over $25,400 a year is claimed to be in the top 10%.

[Danny]

I am in the 1% of richest people in the world according to this website:

http://www.globalrichlist.com/

The site's goal it to point out that "American Poverty" isn't really poverty at all.

It's very interesting!

The site claims that if you make more than $47,500 a year, you're in the top 1%.

Better yet, anyone making over $25,400 a year is claimed to be in the top 10%.

The 1% will contribute to feeding the poor, support the middle class and end relationship in all world government. Leave the governments alone. You can't all the money in the world. We the 99% have made you rich the we can make you poor one day.

[j to the jeremy]

However, that site also points out that "The world's 225 richest people now have a combined wealth of $1 trillion. That's equal to the combined annual income of the world's 2.5 billion poorest people"

Even more reason to protest.

[jackie5275]

This site takes into account WORLD population with a base median income of $5,000 per year. It's goal is to show you where you are in terms of worldwide population. There's too many factors involved to use this compare yourself against US population. It's not a reliable measuring stick.

[Scottathew]

However, that site also points out that "The world's 225 richest people now have a combined wealth of $1 trillion. That's equal to the combined annual income of the world's 2.5 billion poorest people"

Even more reason to protest.

Yes, I'm so mad that Bill Gates and other people created stuff and got rich off of it. We shouldn't allow people to get rich and instead should take Bill Gates 40 Billion dollars and evenly spread it out between all Americans so we can be $133 richer and destroy all incentive to make and do things in this country.

[bailey]

I bet you'll be hard pressed to find anyone walking through Grand Circus who both LIVES in the city, and Opposes the "occupation".

Agreed, however I bet those who both live in the city and support the movement are the minority of those protesting. Which is an irony all in itself. "Occupy Detroit" indeed. Maybe the Occupy Detroitists should actually think about moving in after they get done with this stunt.

[Gistok]

exactly. also, did I miss the day Matty Maroun got a bail out? Is this now just protesting "greed" in general? will we be doing all the 7 deadly sins now? Who exactly is this protest supposed to be seen by? the people grabbing a bit at Slows before heading to the tigers game?

I mean if you want to occupy somewhere to protest greed....why not downtown Birmingham? Or, how about you take over the Apple store at Somerset. Or, how about chaining yourselves across any access road to the Ambassador bridge?

Nah...those would actually get you arrested. Camping out in a park in detroit wont

Bailey... remember this post of yours early on?? Yeah you were complaining about them protesting at Roosevelt Park... now they're protesting from GCP... no longer in the middle of nowhere...

So what is your beef now? Or are you just being yourself, and like to bitch?