Where to Put Gitmo Prisoners...

ccbatson · August-16-09, 02:48 PM

So, you don't want them in Michigan Lorax? Who should you complain to/who is responsible?

Being in the same state as Dearborn, the largest islamic population outside of the middle east, is one strange coincidence....or is it?

**firstandten** · August-20-09, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by lilpup

I'd rather have Gitmo prisoners in Michigan than California's prisoners. Unlike California, the Feds will be able to pay their bill and it's unlikely that relatives of Gitmo detainees will move to the area to be near them, whereas California's felonious families might.

The biggest problem you would have with the Gitmo prisoners would be keeping them from committing suicide. I bet as long as you respected their religion and treated them decent you wouldn't have a lot of problems from them.

The last thing you would want is a bunch of gang-banging riot causing, shank using prisoners from Cali or anywhere else in the states.

ccbatson · August-20-09, 07:50 PM

There we go...send them to Fistandten's house.

Lorax · August-20-09, 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by ccbatson

So, you don't want them in Michigan Lorax? Who should you complain to/who is responsible?

Being in the same state as Dearborn, the largest islamic population outside of the middle east, is one strange coincidence....or is it?

LOL!!!

Yeah, it's a coincidence, only a coincidence.

I really don't care where they are, if it's Michigan, fine, it really doesn't matter, a prisoner is a prisoner, is a prisoner.

Better yet, we can shove them into the dark and diseased Batcave.

**firstandten** · August-21-09, 12:26 AM

Originally Posted by Lorax

Better yet, we can shove them into the dark and diseased Batcave.

If thats the case we would be better off leaving Gitmo open

**Vcalibur** · August-21-09, 01:40 AM

Detroit has enough problems, people homeless, people out of work, children committing crimes, many people without health care, the drop out rate. We do not need anymore help bringing the State of Michigan down.

**Danny** · August-21-09, 09:37 AM

There are some concerns about shipping 9/11 detainees from Gitmo to ordernary county jail-like prison at some some northwestern Michigan town:

1. Will the Al-Qaeda planed a terror attack in that small town?

2. Will there be homeland security agents gaurding the detainees?

3. Will the residents of the small Northwestern Michigan town protect themselves if they were under attack by Al -Qaeda?

4.Will the detainees ever escape from the county jail-like prison?

**firstandten** · August-21-09, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by Danny

There are some concerns about shipping 9/11 detainees from Gitmo to ordernary county jail-like prison at some some northwestern Michigan town:

1. Will the Al-Qaeda planed a terror attack in that small town?

2. Will there be homeland security agents gaurding the detainees?

3. Will the residents of the small Northwestern Michigan town protect themselves if they were under attack by Al -Qaeda?

4.Will the detainees ever escape from the county jail-like prison?

Are these really concerns or is this fear-mongering by the opponents of this plan

Lets go thru this:

If Al-Qaeda was going to attack a town or a prison it would be at the small Colorado town where SuperMax is located and that hasn't happened.

Escape while not impossible is difficult and I believe Michigan's state [[not county like) prisons has a good record in that regard.

We have the local, county, state police that would protect them, plus we have a national guard that could be used as well.

Like I said before I would be more concerned with the highly organized gang bangers from Cali than with the Gitmo prisoners.

There will probably be military guards at the prison, plus they would bring their families to live in the area

**elganned** · August-21-09, 11:38 AM

Shoot 'em all in the head.
Problem solved.

**firstandten** · August-21-09, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by elganned

Shoot 'em all in the head.
Problem solved.

Yes !!! but maybe not legal

AHHHH so what!! the Bush crime family doesn't do legal, so it might work.

ccbatson · August-21-09, 08:49 PM

Legal according to what law and jurisdiction? Sadly, now, with full rights of US citizens.

Lorax · August-21-09, 09:51 PM

Originally Posted by ccbatson

Legal according to what law and jurisdiction? Sadly, now, with full rights of US citizens.

LOL!!!!

What a buttload.

Batts has been flying with his mouth open again.

Full rights as US citizens? LOL!!! Not in the real world.

They will have rights to a fair trial, as is the law, since the Tush Administration decided to suspend Habeus Corpus in an effort to stop any trials, or even charges from being leveled against these people. Only fascist states do this.

They picked up too many cab drivers and breadmakers to make their case. These people aren't even terrorists.

ccbatson · August-22-09, 10:23 PM

"As is the law"? Which law? Applicable to whom? US law, applicable [[now) to terrorist enemy combatants.

**rb336** · August-25-09, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by ccbatson

"As is the law"? Which law? Applicable to whom? US law, applicable [[now) to terrorist enemy combatants.

ok, since you apparantly need to be hand fed basic common knowledge:

US law and international law. are we not a nation of laws? are not those very laws you wish to restrict the ones that actually guarantee our freedoms? the answer, btw, to both of those is YES.

ccbatson · August-25-09, 04:30 PM

No, US law does not apply to non US citizens. Non US citizens should not have the constitutional rights of citizens as they have not fulfilled their half of the contract.

Lorax · August-25-09, 07:51 PM

You really know nothing of our Constitution.

Just give it up, already, even you don't have the ability to make the case for abandoning our treaties in order to render and torture people.

**elganned** · August-26-09, 06:51 AM

Charge 'em or let 'em go.
Certainly enough time has passed to build a case against them; if no case can be made, they should not be held. That was written into the Bill of Rights not because the founders felt it should be a perquisite applying only to US citizens, but because they felt that it was the only just and honorable way to treat anyone.

**rb336** · August-26-09, 07:05 AM

Originally Posted by ccbatson

No, US law does not apply to non US citizens. Non US citizens should not have the constitutional rights of citizens as they have not fulfilled their half of the contract.

they certainly DO bats. show me where it says that they only apply to US citizens. anywhere. in the body of the constitution, court opinions, anything that validates your position

Lorax · August-26-09, 08:17 AM

Batts is incapable of providing any evidence, since it's in his intellectually lazy nature not to do so. Typical Rethuglican- swallow the dogma of the Reich, learn to goosestep and party on.

**elganned** · August-26-09, 08:29 AM

"Here, you can always find a party. In Russia, the Party can always find you."
~ Yakov Smirnoff

Lorax · August-26-09, 08:32 AM

I say dump the prisoners on the SS MuMu, the rough seas of Christofascism should seem like Islam's version of hell- no better punishment.

**Bong-Man** · August-26-09, 02:18 PM

Am I the only one who pulled a gut muscle when the locals were discussing the Dearbornites coming up in mass for an attack on Standish to free their relatives ? That would be the Tunguska of terror attacks. I can invision the Michigan Militia sharpening their bayonets as we speak.

**MCP-001** · August-26-09, 02:31 PM

Since Pres. B.O. feels so strongly about freeing them, then why doesn't he put the Gitmo detainees up at the White House?

Free room & board in government funded housing.

It's a secure location so no one outside of the White House will be hurt, killed or taken hostage.

He can have them sleep in the same room as him and his wife, or with his kids.

Put up or shut up time, Pres. B.O.!

Lorax · August-26-09, 02:33 PM

Put up or shut up time, Pres. B.O.!

Back at ya, MCP! Try taking your own advice.

**MCP-001** · August-26-09, 02:51 PM

Why should I take them in?

Gitmo is working fine so far.

There isn't any need to bring them into America.

Unless you're Pres. B.O. trying to keep a campaign pledge...