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Thanks. When I cite this, should I just put "mysterious data table from an internet forum"?

The city is still, bizarrely, in the middle of everything.

One point I'd like to make too, is that in the next 20 years cars are going to be driving themselves. All this debate is probably moot.

Do you have a source for that? I am inclined to believe you, but I ask because I was looking for that particular information.



What's bizarre is the fact that you don't understand that the...

http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/graph/?id=MIPOP

Just go ahead and assume the population of SE Michigan, or the Detroit Metro area, had similar changes.

Anymore stupid questions?

First, OC isn't a city. Nor is it the hub of the area. Also, are you sure you want to use it as a negative example? I mean, it's not exactly hurting for anything, other than good taste.

It's from all the haters on deez nutz!

It's not a fancy formula. It's a simple linear formula.

I point it out because people are talking big economic game here and so far, I haven't seen one person who knows what they're spouting.

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As people fled the crumbling city, they moved further and further away. Same thing with businesses. As a result, people needed massive [[or at least large) freeways in the middle of nowhere to get to...

Just stop. Induced demand isn't the same thing as demographic shifts.

Show me the demand function for induced demand. Graph the supply/demand function for a free good, please.

You are just consistently wrong and ill-informed.

I thought I had educated you already?

You do realize that if we built a light rail line, it would be underutilized the majority of the time too, right? You forget that 94 is an international trade...

http://www.deadlinedetroit.com/articles/7513/after_millions_in_repairs_i-94_is_dark_again_because_of_copper_thieves#.UqeQWvRDu8M

Would you like a cookie with your nice warm glass of STFU?

This is why people hate hippsters.

The streetlights have been looted, like the rest of this city.

By the way, if the trends of reurbanisation hold, we'll have more time before we have to add a real light rail system.

I agree, long term we need a light rail system, however, right now we don't....

No. Remove the concept of induced demand from your head when you're thinking about free goods, because that induction is included in the "equilibrium". I use quotes around the equilibrium, because...

Not really. By definition, a free good is a good whereby the entire quantity demanded is available at a price of zero.

Essentially, it implies an implicit, but not explicit, opportunity cost...

It's a "free" good till demand exceeds the inherit capacity.

You guys are acting like this is a negative for Detroit. Real mass transit will never happen until MI and Detroit exhibit a positive...