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    Pick any random suburb north of I-696, or west of...

    Pick any random suburb north of I-696, or west of I-275. There are plenty of places that an upper middle class white guy can live in Metro Detroit and not constantly have it thrown in his face that...
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    There are dozens of communities in Metro Detroit...

    There are dozens of communities in Metro Detroit that are mostly white where you will hear very little mention of racial issues.
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    Again, if you want to live in a city where racial...

    Again, if you want to live in a city where racial inequality is out of mind, Detroit is not that place. Just like if you want to live in a city that has a subway system, Detroit is not that place. ...
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    You're interpreting these as hate words. They...

    You're interpreting these as hate words. They are not, and it is really weird that you feel that way. It is objective fact that there were no black people in the ad. It is objective fact that...
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    In this same thread you complained about homeless...

    In this same thread you complained about homeless people questioning why you, a white guy, are there in Detroit. Then you defend an ad that erases black people from Detroit. You sound pretty...
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    Whether or not you're being malicious, you are...

    Whether or not you're being malicious, you are being obtuse. If it had shown all East Asian people you would have absolutely raised an eyebrow and recognized that something was weird about the...
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    This is nonsense. Even if you want to be...

    This is nonsense. Even if you want to be deliberately obtuse and use Metro Detroit's stats, the Metro area is still almost 1/4th black. So you should be able to see a lot more than 0 black people...
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    It's not a misnomer. It only flows one way, so...

    It's not a misnomer. It only flows one way, so it's a river. Straits don't necessarily have to flow one way.

    Also, the French called it a river as well:
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    The Detroit River is a river. Rivers can be...

    The Detroit River is a river. Rivers can be straits. But it most closely fits the modern definition of a river.
  10. Pretty sure the auto dealers are the ones behind...

    Pretty sure the auto dealers are the ones behind this, not the automakers. It is unfair that the traditional automakers have to abide by state dealer distribution laws, while Tesla can sell...
  11. Another point that this reminded me of is that...

    Another point that this reminded me of is that this isn't only a residential property issue. The creep of abandonment is already showing up in commercial real estate of inner ring suburbs. Almost...
  12. I don't agree with this analogy. A stock doesn't...

    I don't agree with this analogy. A stock doesn't have fixed maintenance costs. Holding a piece of stock will never cost you more than the stock is worth. Owning a house in Detroit that needs...
  13. But the cost to maintain a house in Detroit isn't...

    But the cost to maintain a house in Detroit isn't much different from what it costs in Portland. Imagine spending $15,000 to upgrade a kitchen on a house worth $36,000. Now imagine spending $15,000...
  14. Okay, then the land bank alone is not a...

    Okay, then the land bank alone is not a sufficient policy solution to address the abandonment problem.
  15. Sounds like landbanks aren't the solution to...

    Sounds like landbanks aren't the solution to revitalizing the city then?

    I would suggest that the city [[and region) address the actual problem, which has been obvious for decades: sprawl.
  16. The city of Detroit really shouldn't be in the...

    The city of Detroit really shouldn't be in the demolition business. Is there any other city on Earth doing something like this?

    Duggan should be putting that energy into coordinating a regional...
  17. Was it really that frequent? There are plenty of...

    Was it really that frequent? There are plenty of suburbs and satellites in the U.S. that are "East" or "West" of their primary city [[and even a state), and they don't seem to warrant changing the...
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    Most of them died within the span of two months.

    Most of them died within the span of two months.
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    Exactly. And if the pandemic does push companies...

    Exactly. And if the pandemic does push companies to get rid of office space, they will trade space for location. The biggest loser will be suburban office parks that get abandoned for smaller...
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    "Nobody goes there anymore, it's too crowded."...

    "Nobody goes there anymore, it's too crowded."
    -Yogi Berra

    This obviously isn't a complaint about crowds, since I've never seen a thread like this about suburbanites coming to a game at the...
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    There is a risk but it won't be because a few...

    There is a risk but it won't be because a few kids are downtown acting stupid.
  22. Are there many/any federal agencies in the...

    Are there many/any federal agencies in the Detroit area that are not already located in one of the "opportunity zones"?
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    If you're sensitive to noise then living on...

    If you're sensitive to noise then living on Jefferson will be louder than Midtown during the summer, especially on weekends, due to Belle Isle and concert traffic. But I've never been in the...
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    I think all Pizza Huts are carryout only now. ...

    I think all Pizza Huts are carryout only now. It's been years since I've seen a full service one.
  25. What rioting?

    What rioting?
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