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Farwell'
You Sir... hit the nail succinctly on the head 4 out of 5 [[I could not agree with your description of the African Americans as "new black immigrants" although you did revise your comments...

IMHO, the only way the culture will change is if there is a significant change in demographics within the city limits and what I mean by demographics is an increase in middle income family oriented...

I kinda hate to break it down in such simple terms....but I think it really comes down to the age old mantra..."If you build it they will come" and come and keep coming. Give it 10 years and the...

Old Guy, et al. The oral history that you and your compatriots have provided here in this thread over the years has IMHO been priceless...Many thanks.
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Can you imagine sitting behind all that power!! My Dad had some affiliation to the seaplane base and would to take us down for the trail runs and then on race day our entire extended family would set...

I guess I could meander back through the thread and find out for myself but much easier to just ask here at the supposed end...What years did Stonefront live in the Mansion? I lived just a few blocks...

Its all tongue and cheek Bro...hows the old saying go in Michigan "if you don't like the weather stick around til next week and it'll change, I remember one year it was 62 degrees in the first week...

Whoops I stand corrected I just checked Google Maps and your right SF is not part of the sunbelt and the south no longer has urban areas...Funny how a thread applauding videos of Detroit scape turned...

Mr Actionman
With a blanket statement like that it sounds like you have never visited either place. Along with being a former Eastsider and lifelong Detroiter at heart I have lived in both Cali [[SF...

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second photo to my original post

31688Fisher Mansion Servants quarters and Boat House at the foot of Lennox...what a difference 50 years makes, The early shot is from 1928 and I took the latter photo in 1981
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Last one 1876 more marshland below Jefferson 31126

1904 map 31125

1917 map ES31124

1919 map 31123

1921 map 31122

here's a few from the early Eastside for those who may not have seen them31121

Hotel Tango
That was some funny sheite

Dan
Thanks for that fine visual aid on the "Red Apples" and we all know Mommy Dearest needed a few of those luckys to relax after a hard day shoot

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I stole the "Red Apples" line from Pulp Fiction....where after Bruce Willis' character negotiates taking the dive, he walks up to the bar and orders a pack of red apples where he has ever...

Ah yes...we've taken a fond memory of my innocent childhood and will use it as the kindling of a new movement to save the bygone domesticated deer of south central Belle Isle. Hell I don't know why...

Lowell
My teenage buddies and I used to take "unguided/unauthorized" tours of the old Marine Hospital late at night in the months before the place was razed. As I recall there was a guard assigned...

Dave
I didn't live there but two of my uncles did and had trailers there back in the early to mid 70's. My older Uncle was named "Uncle Bucky" he had one of the prime spots if not the prime spot in...

E-S AL
No I didn't take it, my Aunt sent it too me today. I'm an Expat Detroiter living in southern Maryland, but I'm in Detroit twice a year. I believe my cousin took it, he's a DFD Firefighter,...

This was taken in the vicinity of Eastlawn just off of Jeff, its near the lot where we lived back in the mid-sixties only back then my Dad would drive us to Belle Isle to feed Lucky Strikes to the...