Another building off the vacant lists, the old Red Cross garages on Woodward near Mack on the Brush Park side have gotten new signs and is apparently going to be a Tuffy.
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Another building off the vacant lists, the old Red Cross garages on Woodward near Mack on the Brush Park side have gotten new signs and is apparently going to be a Tuffy.
Don't we have enough auto repair shops in this town? I welcome any new business, but what about a grocery store, a bakery, a sensibly cheap restaurant, a coffee shop?? Is that so hard?
Great to hear, DetroitDad. Not to threadjack, but do you happen to know the progress of the rehabilitation and new construction along Woodward between Selden and Alexandrine, at the old Garden Theatre and adjacent buildings?
Gsgeorge, I'm thinking people waiting on an auto repair are potential customers for other businesses.
The Garden Theater is actually a multi phase project along Woodward, with the first through third actually being built or renovated now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocko
Installation of windows at th Garden Theater is finishing up, and the three hundred and twenty space parking garage is coming along. The theater will be used as a theater [[three story meeting and entertainment space) with ground floor retail. Those phases are expected to be finished next year. The former Blue Moon restaurant will re-open, and Zakoors will be demolished for a planed six story residential building with two floors of retail and commercial space, to be finished in 2011. At least two more phases are planned.
It seems that this project is one of a few that was implemented correctly, as the owners have been planning it for a about a decade, and supposedly got their financing and plans together when the economy was good, then made their moves when things got bad.
The owners of those buildings seem to know what a good urban project is. The buildings communicate with the street, complement their surroundings, aren't too tall, etc.. We can only hope these become a model of redevelopment and new construction in the city.
It seems like Detroit is still rising after all. ;)
:confused: Communicate with the street? WTF?Quote:
Originally Posted by DetroitDad
And what on earth does "aren't too tall" mean? A single three floor building would be too tall, and would permanently bathe Detroit in Mordor-like darkness?
BTW, there is no apartment building U/C on that site. It's just more parking. They want more parking because the visitors are getting their windows smashed in, and it's killing their business.
The Tuffy[s building was built as a set for the movie Red Dawn and well as the triangle buildng north of Capital Park. Both will be returned to its previous state after filming. I agree with Detroit Dad regarding the Garden Theater project that is nice refreshing to see developers maintain interesting facades and enhance the Woodward streetscape. Is Zakoors still in business , if so will they relocate nearby?
I'm not sure on the fate of Zakoors.
More naysaying from Crawford! Finally something cool happens, some actual REAL development in the city, and he finds some way to prod it and poke it and decry it. Bravo sir!Quote:
Originally Posted by crawford
Pot... meet kettle.
This isn't the best picture, but this is the massive housing development at Joy and Southfield Freeway.
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Progress at the former Studebaker Site.
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In Midtown, there are two grocery stores, University on Warren, and another one also on Warren by the Little Caesers. Food Pride maybe?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gsgeorge
A bakery is on Willis, between Second and Cass. There are tons of cheap restaurants, thats what I live off of.
As far as coffee shops, theres of course the million starbucks. But there is the new Biggby [[sp?) coffee in the Studio 1 apartments, and the other one next to the Thai place on Woodward.
-Tahleel
Apparently the subtleties of metaphors are lost on you....Quote:
Originally Posted by crawford
He was referring to the maintaining of the streetwall. :rolleyes:
just makes me think of all the Development that would happen in a booming economy!
The coffee shop next to the Thai place closed awhile back. Passport pizza is taking it's place. I think another coffee shop [[not Bigby) opended recently butI'm not sure. There is also the Java ExchangeQuote:
Originally Posted by tahleel
Once again Crawford attempts to thread jack by posting his hatred for anything positive in Detroit.
when does fatburgers and starters grille are set to open?
Not sure when Kanye West's Fatburger will open. I think Starters is supposed to open in mid-December.
It took me a very long time to learn that when many "outsiders" say such things, what they really mean is that there are not enough chain grocery stores [[Krogers, Walmart, etc.), restaurants [[TGI Fridays, Denny's, etc.), and so forth. Well, that and the fact that Detroit businesses seem to not advertise very much. You really have to ask other locals until you learn the city well.Quote:
Originally Posted by tahleel
The housing on the Studebaker site is shaping up quite nicely
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Originally Posted by DetroitDad
Detroit has an organic retail market - grassroots, smalltime, privately owned by community members. Outsiders aren't used to it and see it as a bad thing. Truth is, it's a wonderful asset which Detroit has. Sure, it would be nice to have a meijer or Kroger, but I'd never want these privately owned businesses to go away. I make a point to shop there as much as possible.
Outsiders are used to the Big chain, corporation stores which give out huge discounts- that's what "real" shopping is to them.
That actually kind of surprises me. Back when I was working on planning projects for the city we did neighborhood surveys and many residents said they would make the trip out to big box stores on the fringe for most of their basic needs. Not to say they didn't shop local, I'm sure they did when they could. But your statement is pretty strong against our findings.Quote:
Originally Posted by dcmorrison12
Wolverine -
It really depends where in Detroit - it's a big place! Some areas are well represented with any type of retail - but others are. I happen to live in Midtown where it's well represented.
Of course, there's always room for improvement
In the case of Midtown/downtown, that makes sense then.
This is a continuation of another thread, where I mentioned [[before the newspaper reported) that a new grocery store is coming to Midtown.
Here is a link taking you to the article in today's paper about it.
http://detnews.com/article/20091006/...roit-s-Midtown
Geoff, don't dig Avalon for your bakery needs?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gsgeorge
Midtown has two large grocery stores, both on the edge of the neighborhood, both on Warren Ave. One at St. Antoine, and the other at John C Lodge.
There is also Goodwell's Market on W Willis at Cass, but it is really small.
Zaccaro's was open for awhile on Woodward at Watson in Brush Park.
Now Sunflower Market is opening on W Forest Ave between Woodward and Cass.
Hopefully the Zaccaro's location can reopen as a similar grocery store to Sunflower.
That would boost the number of groceries to 4, with several smaller sized markets.
I think then, there will be a need for a larger supermaket. Like a super target or something, or meijer.
This is the sign and renderings on the South side of Capitol Park.
Link to past discussion; http://www.detroityes.com/mb/showthread.php?p=50181
Yeah, no kidding. I spent 3 years living in downtown, and had to lurk around on DY in order to find out about Honey Bee Market. That's not to imply that my building suffered from a shortage of menus from mediocre Pizza places, however. It's not easy to find out about these things if you're an "outsider." I made dozens of trips out to the burbs for essentials because I just felt like nothing else was on offer..Quote:
Originally Posted by DetroitDad
A coming soon sign has appeared on the second floor of the Millender Center, for The Birmingham Deli;
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And of course, in case you didn't hear, The Courtyard Cafe and Bar assures us they are open with a new and exciting menu, and serving their famous soul food. I have been told this is the best place to get soul food in the Central Business District.
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That display is in the windows facing Randolph Street.
I heard on the street[[literally from two people taking about this) that the owner was going to close for a year and then occupy one of the new retail spots on the same corner.Quote:
Originally Posted by DetroitDad