"RT @haimerlad: Sitting next to a woman who says she works for Target and she is at #dethomecoming vetting Detroit for a City Target."
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"RT @haimerlad: Sitting next to a woman who says she works for Target and she is at #dethomecoming vetting Detroit for a City Target."
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Is this Target vetting Detroit for one or just some insignificant blogger vetting Detroit for a City Target. If the latter is true than this is just useless news that could be been left out for I and others had been suggesting the same thing for a couple of years. I still think that either New Center One in midtown or the former Kresge building downtown would be good locations for a City Target. One of the strip malls that is on Jefferson had spaces but the owners prefer to have dollar stores, ghetto furniture stores that sell hub caps and rims, beauty supply stores, and the likeQuote:
Originally Posted by SpartanDawg
Why should forumers rejoice? It's not like Target announced they are building a store in the city. I'm sure lots of retailers have "vetted" the city of Detroit before. I'd prefer to see a unique mix of locally owned smaller retail that is actually PATRONIZED enough to turn a profit.
@mindfield. It's a joke. People have been saying a city target is coming to the greater downtown area for years, now that it is an actual possibility [[because yes,, the company is actually looking at Detroit as an option) it's pretty funny we can seriously discuss it.
I would love to see the same thing to as long as they cater to all needsQuote:
Originally Posted by Mind field
On a related note, this "Detroit Homecoming" going on the next couple days looks terrific. I believe Crain's is the official host...they are bringing in tons of local folks who moved away and are movers and shakers at various companies around the country. For a few days they are basically experiencing tons of cool Detroit stuff - seeing the "rebirth" - with folks like Gov. Snyder, Warren Buffett, Michael Bloomberg...and all that speaking. Hopefully this brings some new investment to the city.
Gilberttown Detroit is not getting a City Target. It's just rumors and innuendos coming from some lady who works for Target. It's a dream but not a reality. Gilberttown Detroit have to be packed with people attracted to retail hubs first. The a City Target can come. Gilberttown Detroit is no booming business district like Downtown Chicago or New York City. Gilberttown Detroit is filled with restaurants, bars and pop-art retail. We have a long way to go from its 9 to 5 regional recovery phase to up all night business hub.
CITY TARGET is a relatively new concept for Target Corp., the first store opening in the old Carson, Pirie, Scott and Co. Chicago landmark in July, 2012. There has been speculation over the last two years about a downtown Detroit store, fueled by the Whole Foods store. This is not the first contact---Target has been lookng at downtown over the last 4 years. Adapting one of the old retail spaces is possible, as would be new construction. The old Monroe/Bates/Randolph/Farmer would be ideal but Bedrock supposedly dispelled that. The old S. S. Kresge buildings at Woodward and State would be a great location...multi floor isn't out of the ordinary for Target...many of their regular stores are multi floor as is the Chicago Loop store. City Target does not carry a full line of products, but is custom tailored to the local market and the concept is not limited to "downtown" but classified as urban store locations and includes groceries. These stores are not open 24 hours. In two years the number of downtown workers/residents will have increased as will the new housing units on the books for downtown/rivertown/midtown, tech town and the New Center. Planning for stores like this don't happen overnight---Whole Foods viewed Detroit as a probable 3 years before the deal was finally cut. If Gilbert/Bedrock want Target, it will happen. Remember, Bedrock has long term control over downtown. The opening of the M1 rail project and the retail openings are meant to coincide. We have to finally start thinking that there are reasons for developments like this to go forward, not dredge up reasons why development won't happen. it's a new era.
I want a Target store to finally be in the city. They should also come with a Starbuck's.
Hey Hyperstyles. downtown already has a Starbucks, its at Camptius Martius in the Earnest Young Building. next tio Potbelly's
There are multiple Starbuck's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hypestyles
The last time I checked [[things could have changed), there are 3 Starbucks total within Detroit's city limits:Quote:
Originally Posted by ResurgetCineribus
-One in MGM Grand Casino
-One on Mack and Woodward
-One in the Millender Center
So while there are technically "multiple Starbucks" throughout the city, that's certainly not very many for town with supposedly 713,000 residents and a downtown/midtown worker population between 50,000 and 150,000. These store locations are also relatively inconvenient for most folks as far as their access and proximity.
There's also one at Campus Martius inside One Kennedy. So four, actually.
There's another in the WSU bookstore. And I think another on the other side of campus.
pooh pooh starbucks. support urban bean, roasting plant, great lakes, etc. etc.
The one in Millender Center has been a Tim Hortons for at least 5 years.
There is also one at the Marriot RenCen.
I hate their Coffee BTW nasty stuff, bitter burned tasting.
There's one on 8 mile @ woodward :-)
I understand your point of view but you need to take a few things into consideration. The downtown appeals to a large base of people. Local residents, young and older working professionals, suburban tourists, and out of state tourists. The key word is "mixed", things that appeal to several demographics. The city needs reinhabited more than anything else. Give people some of the creature comforts from home in hopes of luring them to live in the taxbase.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mind field
Buying local is awesome but can be very time consuming, especially in fragmented Detroit. Not everyone has the time for that when shopping. Detroit is light years away from having congruent "retail" districts to satisfy all the needs that a Target could. Like it or not, it's a reality. If the future of Detroit is the ultimate in "Organic" urban re-development, this Target would be weeded out anyways...
Target would not be weeded out for Target has more basic needs to satisfy many
I agree, just speaking hypothetically.Quote:
Originally Posted by stasu1213
Did Meijer buy out Target, or vice-versa, while we weren't paying attention?Quote:
Originally Posted by Detroitdave
I don't see how there is enough foot traffic to support a Target yet.
Yes, there has been a gigantic influx of people into the downtown, but you can still walk down Woodward or Michigan Ave at times and be the only soul on the street.
I think a regular, multi-level Target would be able to attract folks from other parts of the city who find it inconvenient to trek out to Harper Woods/Southfield/Dearborn/Allen Park.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeg19
There would just need to be plenty of free parking available.
multi-level? in detroit? why?Quote:
Originally Posted by 313WX
Why not?Quote:
Originally Posted by hybridy
Would you rather a big box Target with a huge surface parking lot be plopped in the middle of downtown.
I would shop the hell out of a Target downtown.
I would too.Quote:
Originally Posted by jolla
This was in response to your incorrect statement concerning the number of starbucks, and their locations, in Detroit. There's one at 8 mile & Woodward.Quote:
Originally Posted by 313WX
I see, my mistake. You didn't quote my post, so I didn't know you were responding to that particular post.Quote:
Originally Posted by eliboyer
I know at the peak of the recession, Starbucks closed all of their Detroit location but 2 or 3. I didn't know they started expanding again within the city...
I'm sure if they could get better tenants they would welcome them.Quote:
Originally Posted by stasu1213
I don't shop at target because of the size of the store. [[way to big for me) But I hope that if it comes they make it bigger than that moose jaw. Every time I go in there hell bent to buy something just to help support them I find something I really like but never in a tall, so I leave with just another t-shirt.
And jolla'sQuote:
Originally Posted by 313WX
I would shop the hell out of a target downtown.
THIS:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...080401005.html
What the Columbia Heights Target did was build a multi-level Target, yellow brick complex with other stores, in a sketchy [[yet up and coming, it is NW DC after all) neighborhood which literally took 14th Street down to one lane of traffic in either direction, with brick red streetscape. Think Hamtramck with cab stands and bus stops. A Metro stop doesn't hurt.
Read the article and you are smack dab in Midtown [[Ilitchville II, how about Third St, or Second, or Clifford) or Corktown, [[which happens to have a giant swath of sentimental land). I'd prefer Hamtramck, of course. Scoff at it all you want, but those people are here, and they do not want to drive to suburbia to get matching shit for the bathroom, and if other stuff happens to be available in a complex............
Tim Hortons is the worst coffee from the bean-just hopeless. SB coffee too esoteric for me ala expensive fancy cup of burning water crap [[foam or without), but I do drink their tea.
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Originally Posted by DetroitPlanner
I would on occasion so long as there is accessible parking.
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Originally Posted by jolla
[[sarcasm) Don't you know you are supposed to leave your car at home and ride the magic choo choo to the downtown Target?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zacha341
Hah! Nope. Not gonna happen... I still retain a guiltless desire to drive my modest car and put my purchases into my trunk from the shopping cart. Further, I can take a neighbor or friend who does not have a car or ability to drive.
The thing too about a downtown Target is that it must provide a unique shopping experience that you wouldn't find at any other Target, if part of its goal is to attract folks from other parts of the city/region to support it, similar to what the Hudson flagship store was like. The benefits of making that trip downtown would have to outweigh any possible inconveniences...
The other option of course, is a mini-Target similar to the mini-Whole Foods in Midtown...
The CITY TARGET stores are not considered "mini" Target's...they are branded as "City" and although many items are available at both brands the City stores carry a different mix of mercandise.Quote:
Originally Posted by 313WX
Until we stand as a majority and tax ourselves to pay for this, it just won't happen. They will just simply locate somewhere else in a community such as Livonia where it's residents are willing to pay more for job growth and wages.
Like nearly all communities and most of those in Detroit want, we pay at city hall for the welfare of the poor by raising the cost of housing and other regressive taxes such as sales and hotel taxes. This is our freedom of choice and what most of want by casting our votes.
Two points:
1. Retail people are constantly in Detroit vetting sites for things. It's not publicized, and you don't hear about every one of them; primarily, you hear about the ones that do decide to site here. A few times you hear about the ones that didn't happen [[like Method Soap).
2. I would predict that a Target would be overrun with shoppers, people here who complain that they would not shop there for whatever reason they are claiming. This is exactly what happened with Whole Foods, which is a store at a much higher price point.
If I could site it, it would be on the east side of Brush Park, using the Mack exit. That Brewster-Douglass site is big enough, and it's right across from Eastern Market [[you'd also have WSU, the DMC, and Lafayette Park/Elmwood traffic). Corktown wouldn't be bad, though with stores like that wanting freeway visibility, you'd probably have to use the sacrosanct Tiger Stadium site or mow down some stuff in North Corktown. NC could put you adjacent to the casino development, which might not be bad in terms of a contiguous area of new development.
HB
The shopping expérience it would provide is shopping for general goods within the downtown midtown area without having to drive the surburbsQuote:
Originally Posted by 313WX
I think that the downtown midtown area would be best for a City Target with the pedestrian traffic. I would go as far to say that it could fit on the ground level of the Z garage eventhough that would be my last choice
Have you been by there lately? It is filling up fast. No room there for one.Quote:
Originally Posted by stasu1213
First National Building [[where Papa Joe's was supposed to be)? Might not be a big enough space, but that spot is about as prime as it gets.
There are Target stores all over the country that are located in places with far less foot traffic, and far less overall traffic and nearby activity. It's not like Target is going to build a Detroit store with no parking at all, and be totally dependent on pedestrians to support it. Target would most likely do something similar to the Whole Foods store on Mack, where they are located in a place that is accessible to shoppers arriving on foot, bike, or mass transit, but also provide some dedicated parking as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeg19
Don't forget the Bloomfield Hills Target at Square Lake and Telegraph! That one has a parking area below the actual store, with escalators and elevators to take you up to the floor where the store is located. A smaller version of that concept could prove perfect for a Target in the city.Quote:
Originally Posted by erikd