Turkia Mullin fired by Wayne County Airport Authority

Just released this statement:

"Turkia Mullin is very talented and resourceful, but unfortunately the situation she finds herself in has become an obvious distraction that will continue into the foreseeable future. I am disheartened that the promise the board saw in her has diminished.

My vision for Aerotropolis has always been to have a strong leader at the helm. I believe under the current situation this has been compromised. When the Board meets next week they should proceed with what is best for the continued success of the airport and this region."

Airport board just announced they will meet Monday for special session.

LOL, why does it sound like they're trying to make people feel bad? Like oh my god, did someone just derail the Aerotropolis plan? That plan has been around for at least a decade now, I don't think a corruption scandal has anything to do with its delay.

Even if she gets fired, she still gets paid. She'd have to resign of her own will. They're just putting on a theatrical show at this point.

Hopefully they can fire her for misrepresentation of her background/accomplishments. She's been too close to criminal activity too often for it to be good on her resume. They should get a lawyer to investigate her and find a reason to claim breach of contract on HER side, and get out of paying her.

Where will she slink off to next? And Ficano is awfully quick to throw people under the bus - he'll be the first one to take a plea bargain when it all comes down next year, lol.

She hasn't even paid back the 200k yet!

Yes she has.

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Yes she has.

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Says who? I heard she was gathering it up, hadn't quite got all of it as of 10-27-11

This kind of municipal corruption is rampant in Wayne County. The difference between McNamara and Ficano is that McNamara could manage it effectively. Mullin will be gone be before Thanksgiving, maybe as early as next week. Ficano will be gone by St. Patrick's Day. In order to run a corrupt empire in the long run, you need a ring of fall guys and plausible deniability surrounding you. Neither Mullin nor Ficano was smart enough to get that.

A question: is there a public official in Wayne County who could clear up the corruption and institute real integrity in staffing & contracts, and bring actual transparency to Wayne County government? I am not proposing anyone. I truly don't know.

The one person in Wayne County government that for sure doesn't have the "stink" of the MacNamara machine, and is pretty much respected by all [[outside of the Kilpatrick friends & family)... would be Kym Worthy, the Wayne County Prosecutor who brought down the Kilpatrick machine. She excused herself from investigating the FIcano debacle, and likely for good reason... she's part of county government.

I would think that she is the one person in Wayne County government that is very much regarded as being "clean".

Now that begs the question of her qualifications outside of the legal/criminal arena, but she has garnered a lot of respect here in Michigan.

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Says who? I heard she was gathering it up, hadn't quite got all of it as of 10-27-11

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Says Ficano:

http://detnews.com/article/20111027/...verance-payout

I don't know too much about Kim Worthy, but someone not politcally connected to all the entrenched people is imperative to clean up the government.

I wouldn't be too concerned about her [[or anyone's) bureaucratic experience. If she's smart and decisive she could handle it. I'll have to read up on her; maybe she can be the one to fix things. It just seems like there is such a web of friends and relatives getting plum gigs, regardless of competence. And that is to say nothing of thinking of being an honest public servant, trying to get maximum services at a minimal cost to taxpayers. Whoever is the next county exec needs to be ready to kick ass and remember that they aren't there to either make friends or make money. Here's to hoping...

Once again, Robert Ficano had no connection to Ed McNamara. They don't have the same people. Those McNamara appointees that didn't leave right away were all forced out. See Lester Robinson for example. Robinson was forced out at the airport and lo and behold, Mullin arrives. Ficano ran for Sheriff without McNamara's support.
I am always so puzzled. What was the "stink" around McNamara? I think of him as a Daley: things worked. The airport got built. He had some people around him who picked some pockets. Maybe that's not avoidable. I do know that he had to take some people, like Bernard Kilpatrick, because the constituancy insisted.

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Once again, Robert Ficano had no connection to Ed McNamara. They don't have the same people. Those McNamara appointees that didn't leave right away were all forced out. See Lester Robinson for example. Robinson was forced out at the airport and lo and behold, Mullin arrives. Ficano ran for Sheriff without McNamara's support.
I am always so puzzled. What was the "stink" around McNamara? I think of him as a Daley: things worked. The airport got built. He had some people around him who picked some pockets. Maybe that's not avoidable. I do know that he had to take some people, like Bernard Kilpatrick, because the constituancy insisted.

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Very insightful post!

http://www.freep.com/article/20111029/NEWS02/110290438/If-airport-CEO-fired-will-cost-700-000-?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE

Good Lord, can we get some Occupy Metro?

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Once again, Robert Ficano had no connection to Ed McNamara. They don't have the same people. Those McNamara appointees that didn't leave right away were all forced out. See Lester Robinson for example. Robinson was forced out at the airport and lo and behold, Mullin arrives. Ficano ran for Sheriff without McNamara's support.
I am always so puzzled. What was the "stink" around McNamara? I think of him as a Daley: things worked. The airport got built. He had some people around him who picked some pockets. Maybe that's not avoidable. I do know that he had to take some people, like Bernard Kilpatrick, because the constituancy insisted.

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I suppose if you're part of the Ficano "friends and family plan"... the perks just can't get any better....:mad:

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He had some people around him who picked some pockets. Maybe that's not avoidable. I do know that he had to take some people, like Bernard Kilpatrick, because the constituancy insisted.

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Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. There was an excellent Detroit News article around the time of that Execrook's retirement that proved the link and inclusion of the Cheeks/Kilpatrick group was a calculated move on McNabman's part. Not any form of insistence on the constituancy...that is a laugh.

As for having some around 'who picked pockets'...it was the CULTURE they were hired into. My old friend Chip, the dark Rasta, was able to fill me in on a bit of that...his father was another of McNasty's right hand men, working alongside Bernard on behalf of the county gang within the city.


Nah, Ficano might have not been a public part of the regime, but smart politicos make sure they control what appears to be the opposition. That way, they always win...and the public is always stuck looking at these issues wondering how in the world THIS guy thought up the same damn scam route.


I don't believe Ficano has a clean spot on his body besides that smug face he keeps polished for public appearances. He needs a 'strong' manager to make his dream work, huh? What do y'all think THAT is code for?!


LOL


Cheers,
John

Echoing Lowell. The protracted investigation of McNamara resulted in one conviction of a high ranking aide who had been persuaded to take a bribe from a sleazy contractor, and one plea to a misdemeanor by a former reporter who worked for McNamara and had illegally used a County computer to prepare a political mailing, thus violating the rule against using government assets on overt electoral politics. Truly a paltry showing for the years of effort and resources put into it be the feds.
McNamara was a skilled politician who won elections and accomplished quite a bit for the County. He also tolerated political favoritism for friends, and some folks were paid far above their value to the public. He hired Bernard Kilpatrick when BK was Chair of the Wayne County Commission, but had no illusions about , shalll we say, BK's weakness in the area of ethical judgment.
Painting McNamara , and anyone he appointed, as corrupt is simply not accurate,just as painting every Kilpatrick appointee as a crook is not accurate . There are good people who worked for Kilpatrick who have been badly damaged by their association with him, and others who , one may presume, are quietly mortified that they will forever be known as a former appointee of Kilpatrick.
Bob Ficano has his own rteam and his own program going. Don't confuse him with McNamara. Accurate analysis requires that one appreciate history, complexity, nuance, and politics and have knowledge of the individuals involved.

Perhaps, but painting him as innocent would be as simple as saying, Coleman Andrew Young was innocent because they couldn't pin anything on HIM either. Same evidence.


Fact that these exit bonuses existed and they defended them is enough for me...the rest of the evidence trail that surfaced including the Catholic church and monies possibly going overseas and land purchased from the county for a $1...surely all peripheral.

But that is all we had on KWHYME before the text messages, too.


So...I say where there is smoke, someone sparked a fire.


Cheers!

The ultimate "corruption" of Wayne County [[and for that matter corrupt people in Detroit or other governments) has less to do with actuall lawbreaking [[although certainly there is a good chunk of that), but rather in a corruption of the assumed responsibility to act in the public interest. I bet scores of people in Wayne County government have their focus on their own pay & pension, the awarding of contracts and business to friends/family/cronies/benefactors, and the creation of public policy to their own benefit. This is corruption, even where not a crime.

Well stated Mikey... sometimes a "crime against the taxpayers"... is not really a technical crime at all.... but more a betrayal of the public trust.

Charlie LeDuff did this nice thorough piece on Mullin and her acolytes;

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news...st-20111026-ms

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Well stated Mikey... sometimes a "crime against the taxpayers"... is not really a technical crime at all.... but more a betrayal of the public trust.

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I second that Gistok, and I think any appearance of conflict of interest has to be avoided by pols and business folks alike.

Like Montreal city comptroller Frank Zampino who spent his holidays with his wife on a major city contractor's yacht in the US Virgin Islands. Tony Accurso, the contractor had gotten a 350 million dollar contract to install electronic water counters for industrial premises in the city. Zampino resigned and guess what; he is now working for the company in question...

Accurso also pead guillty recently to a 4 million dollar tax evasion bit...

I am pretty sure that the " Catholic Church connection" that a few posters are concerned about is nothing more than an interesting coincidence. They base their conspiratorial theories on the fact that the AoD, a corporation sole then in the person of Cardinal Maida, bought a house that Turkia Mullen was selling in Northville. It looks like Mullen sold it for far below market value to "the Church." this taken from the public records. Mullen was pretty much a nobody then , by the way. But more importantly, like Dan Gilbert, the Ilich family and most other people who are perceived to have deep pockets and have a need to assemble parcels of land on occasion, the AoD does not record the true price paid. A token price goes in the County Clerk's record: $1; $100, $1000 or like that. The Northville property was purchased for Cardinal Schoka to use when he returned home from Rome. By thecwau, Detroit has, unusually, two living Cardinals. The speculation is that they will be the last ones as the AoD is not the powerhouse it was in terms of Catholic population.

As a proud, believing, and churchgoing Catholic [[Old St. Mary's), I would not be at all surprised if there were shady real estate dealings, especially in the period of 1980-2000, when the church was divesting itself of lots of real estate. That property was in many cases valuable, and never assessed for taxes while a church. It would be easy to bury actual property value on something that had no paper value for decades beforehand. While the church's books aren't [[and shouldn't be) subject to investigation, it would be curious to learn who bought former church property, what was paid for it, and how that money relates to their assesments. Those property transactions would be in county records.

This is getting way off track from the thread theme, so forgive. When the AoD was selling so many churches in 1980's, they most of them for pennies. Sometimes really $100. the buyers were black churches that hoped to move up. But pretty often the buyer congregations just didn't have enough money and didn't get the bigger congregations they aspired to. The beautiful old churches fell into disrepair and many were just abandoned. Lesson learned . The AoD now asks a reasonable price and often can't sell the property.

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This is getting way off track from the thread theme, so forgive. When the AoD was selling so many churches in 1980's, they most of them for pennies. Sometimes really $100. the buyers were black churches that hoped to move up. But pretty often the buyer congregations just didn't have enough money and didn't get the bigger congregations they aspired to. The beautiful old churches fell into disrepair and many were just abandoned. Lesson learned . The AoD now asks a reasonable price and often can't sell the property.

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I hope the true architectural gems can be salvaged as something. I always wanted to turn a church into a restaurant. Of the ones I've toured in Detroit, though, the ones in the location where I'd want to put a restaurant are still active churches.

Under the bus she must go perhaps... Wait?! Are there any buses running for the deed? It might take an hour or two! ----;)----

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I don't know too much about Kim Worthy

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Rumor had it last election that she was considering a run at County Executive. Maybe she'll give it try next time around.

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Rumor had it last election that she was considering a run at County Executive. Maybe she'll give it try next time around.

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Kym Worthy has garnered a lot of respect not only in Wayne County, but all of Michigan [[not that it matters). She stood up to the Kilpatrick machine, and never wavered.

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Kym Worthy has garnered a lot of respect not only in Wayne County, but all of Michigan [[not that it matters). She stood up to the Kilpatrick machine, and never wavered.

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Gman I mostly agree with you. While respect from the rest of Michigan won't matter much for her election, it will do wonders when it comes to initiatives like regional transit and support for Detroit-based cultural institutions. When people in Oakland and Macomb Counties- to say nothing of further out in Michigan- look at Kwame and Ficano they have to ask themselves, "why the F*** would we join up with that?" If Kim Worthy is an honest and efficient public servant, and she were elected CE, it will be more enticing to Wayne County's neighbors, let alone better for it's citizens.

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Under the bus she must go perhaps... Wait?! Are there any buses running for the deed? It might take an hour or two! ----;)----

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Ol' Snidely Ficano'd just tie her up like Nell Fenwick. Heck, in the Do-Right saga, Whiplash had to wait for the next train!

ROTFL! First check to see if Amtrak is still in service, they may have gone under as we speak!

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Ol' Snidely Ficano'd just tie her up like Nell Fenwick. Heck, in the Do-Right saga, Whiplash had to wait for the next train!

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Is she gonna get out in time to qualify for her golden parachute before any real charges are brought that would prevent her from getting it? If they found her guilty after she is let go could they go after her to get it back? Or would she already be moved to Lebanon?

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A former Wayne County employee, who was fired by embattled former economic development director Turkia Awada Mullin, has filed suit against her in Wayne County Circuit Court, saying she asked him to divert money from a federal program designed to help low-income communities into a nonprofit agency Mullin headed.

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http://www.freep.com/article/2011103...text|FRONTPAGE

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[Mullin] asked him to divert money from a federal program designed to help low-income communities into a nonprofit agency Mullin headed.

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100% believable based off of everything that's coming to light.

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Kym Worthy has garnered a lot of respect not only in Wayne County, but all of Michigan [[not that it matters). She stood up to the Kilpatrick machine, and never wavered.

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Meh. I like Kym Worthy some. She thought her whole term was going to be a simple one, releasing a stream of press releases about gun violence and running buy-backs. Then the Kilpatrick thing fell into her lap. She works for the county, and has to deal with disengaged city voters and highly engaged voters from Livonia, Dearborn, Downriver, Romulus, Canton, etc. No, I don't think I'm going to pat her on the back too much for how she handled KK. She knew what she had to do to distance herself from them and score points with the voters.

For instance, what did she do about Karen Plants and Mary Waterstone for all the years we knew about that fiasco? Nothing. And she should be ashamed of that. No statements about wrongs, just constantly putting off comment until those cases are resolved. Not too cool, Kym.

Let's not forget that Worthy made her name in the trial of Walter Budzyn and Larry Nevers, two cops convicted of beating Malice Green. While she did go after Kilpatrick, a lot of folks are not going to be keen on a cop prosecutor. Just sayin'

I hope that the Airport Board hires someone more on the up and up. Also, all contracts- with both staff and businesses- should be posted online before the start of the contract. That way, the taxpayers would have a chance to review them [[and the media, and competing businesses, etc).

I don't take pleasure in seeing this woman's career destroyed. I hope she can have a reputable career as a lawyer, although there have been reports of ethical shortcomings on that front [[see Charlie LeDuff's report on Channel 2). But you reap what you sow... I wish her luck if she can keep her nose clean.

On another note: there should be no public contracts with enormous severance packages, and no severance should EVER be paid if you leave on your own accord, leave to take a higher paying gov't job, or have any ethical charges against you. On this last point, if you are exonerated, you should keep your job and it's pay. If you're not, you should lose it all. Some reporter should go through every public contract in Wayne County and see if any are like her County or Airport contracts.

http://www.freep.com/article/2011103...text|FRONTPAGE

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The Wayne County Airport Authority just voted to fire controversial CEO Turkia Mullin.

The firing passed by a 5-2 vote. Voting for the firing were Renee Axt, Suzanne Hall, Bernard Parker, Mary Zuckerman, Charlie Williams. Samuel Nouhan and Mike Jackson voted to keep her.
Nouhan argued Mullin did not violate her contract with the airport.

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There should be no golden parachutes regardless of whether it is private or public sector.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnVXIUyshng

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There should be no golden parachutes regardless of whether it is private or public sector.

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Don't totally agree on the private sector. If it is a privately held firm, they can do whatever they want with their money. If it is owned by stockholders, there should be no severance package that isn't fully approved by shareholders. If I were a shareholder, I wouldn't sign on to one. But if X company's shareholders do, well, that's their own foolishness. I don't believe in preventing people from making bad decisions with their own money; I believe in preventing people from making bad decisions with my money.

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I don't take pleasure in seeing this woman's career destroyed. I hope she can have a reputable career as a lawyer, although there have been reports of ethical shortcomings on that front [[see Charlie LeDuff's report on Channel 2). But you reap what you sow... I wish her luck if she can keep her nose clean.

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I don't agree. From what I've seen and read this woman is dirty dirty dirty. She's a Kilpatrick-esqe scammer. She and her friends go around screwing the public and also private individuals where ever they can to accumulate money.

I have a feeling this is all going the same way as Kwame.

http://www.freep.com/article/2011103...text|FRONTPAGE

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I don't agree. From what I've seen and read this woman is dirty dirty dirty. She's a Kilpatrick-esqe scammer. She and her friends go around screwing the public and also private individuals where ever they can to accumulate money.

I have a feeling this is all going the same way as Kwame.

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Yep. She's up to no good, and the sad thing is she is not going to pay for it, she'll get the golden parachute because too many important folks are involved. The old familiar stuff.

[QUOTE=48091;281413]I don't agree. From what I've seen and read this woman is dirty dirty dirty. She's a Kilpatrick-esqe scammer. She and her friends go around screwing the public and also private individuals where ever they can to accumulate money.

I have a feeling this is all going the same way as Kwame.[/QUOTE

Don't get me wrong, I want her punished fully for all criminal wrongdoing, and if she has ethic lapses in her role as an attorney, she should be brought before the bar for sanctions. But I don't take pleasure in her having to go through it, on a human level. Her actions should have their legal consequences, whatever they are. And she did bring such humiliation on herself. But when my uncle John went to jail for writing bad checks, it was still wrenching for our family, including him. I favored his punishment [[actually, it would have benefitted him, in retrospect, to spend more time in jail), but I felt bad that he had to go through it.

Cha Ching. Cha Ching.
Reminds one of the ghost of Mr. McNamara, which is not easily exorcised, is it?

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Cha Ching. Cha Ching.
Reminds one of the ghost of Mr. McNamara, which is not easily exorcised, is it?

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Not even 10 years after he left office, and Big Ed's machine has the wheels coming off it.

`My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings:
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!'

Admin thread for merging threads. Ignore.

The Freep headline is dead on stating that the board that hired her should be next to go.

Hmmn, I wondered when someone was gonna bring that up.....

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Let's not forget that Worthy made her name in the trial of Walter Budzyn and Larry Nevers, two cops convicted of beating Malice Green. While she did go after Kilpatrick, a lot of folks are not going to be keen on a cop prosecutor. Just sayin'

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The Detroit News is going after her "personal" life now.. As stated weeks ago.. Turkia went through an ugly divorce that she created. The News did print about the drug allegations of her ex at the time. This is just the start. Edmund Szoka is also involved with this mess as Crains Detroit reported last week.

http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/in...mullins_r.html

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The exposure of Mullin risks someone shining a light on everyone else’s own, private mushroom farms of questionable arrangements with county government.

One might think this is akin to rats fleeing a sinking ship, but rats don’t build ships. This situation is as though the engineers and boosters who declared the Titanic unsinkable commandeered the lifeboats moments after that ship hit the iceberg. And then pointed a finger of blame at the ship's captain before fleeing from the disaster they created.

Turkia Mullin’s dismissal [[if that is what happens today) should be prologue to a larger inquiry into EdMcNamarastan—that is, Wayne County’s political class and the contractors with whom they do business.

After all, no one seriously believes John Rakolta, Cindy Pasky, the other EDGE Opportunities/Wayne County Business Development Corporation Directors, or EDGE's contributing businesses gave Mullin an annual bribe bonus simply out of some misguided notion of philanthropy. Right?

We get the oligarchy we deserve if we let this end today.

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After attempting to deal with the above I agree with the above 100% , this is the beginning not the end.

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Let's not forget that Worthy made her name in the trial of Walter Budzyn and Larry Nevers, two cops convicted of beating Malice Green. While she did go after Kilpatrick, a lot of folks are not going to be keen on a cop prosecutor. Just sayin'

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It doesn't matter that she prosecuted those cops. They beat the crap out of Malice Green. Budzyn and Nevers were scumbags who got what they deserved.

The sad reality is that this kind of garbage happens all over the place. Who do you think finances most political campaigns at all levels of government? Contractors, vendors, and other business interests looking to get a cut of the public purse. When they aren't funding candidates directly, they are funneling money through the political parties, PACs and quasi-governmental organizations like Wayne County EDGE. Most people think that this happens behind closed doors. But much of it doesn't. A lot of this information was out in the open waiting for someone expose it. But no one wants to take the time to connect the dots. If they had, we would have been aware of the various webs of corruption a lot sooner.

Lawsuit and B-I-G payout time! This is going to get expensive. The airport board just made a decision....

Metro Airport CEO Turkia Mullin Fired

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news...in-20111031-ms

Morons from the board didn't even read her contract before firing her!

Now they owe her $750,000. Minimum .

Some goof responded " If I had a copy of the contract I would have read it"

Yeah how this is being "handled" she's got basic employee rights law on her side withstanding her shannigans. What a mess. Should have just let her keep the 200K, now the sky's the limit nearly!

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Morons from the board didn't even read her contract before firing her!

Now they owe her $750,000. Minimum .

Some goof responded " If I had a copy of the contract I would have read it"

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I think what will end up happening is that the FBI, is going to dig up some real serious stuff on her and a deal will be made with her to give up the severance from her job at the airport or go to trial over the stuff uncovered.

At this point I think she is pretty much out of a job and can kiss the severance package goodbye.

In all honestly, her attitude is what took her down. She probably had an enemy at Wayne county, and when she left that person decided to make a few calls to channel 7 to open up the investigation.

All she had to do when she went on TV with Heather Cataldo at Channel 7 is to agree with everything that was said, and write a check on the spot to wayne county to repay the severance. Her justification would have been its the right thing to do, considering she is getting a bigger severance package from the airport and she voluntarly left her job.

But instead, she had to act like a little bitch and say that she was worth it several dozen times, and all it did was piss people off, which lead to a larger investigation

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I think what will end up happening is that the FBI, is going to dig up some real serious stuff on her and a deal will be made with her to give up the severance from her job at the airport or go to trial over the stuff uncovered.

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And THEN she moves to Dallas?!


I'm trying to keep up here, what station has the play-by-play?!


Cheers!

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Morons from the board didn't even read her contract before firing her!

Now they owe her $750,000. Minimum .

Some goof responded " If I had a copy of the contract I would have read it"

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Yeah, the REST of us knew before the meeting...it was all over the press. I'm sure Ficano is all verklempt now, searching for his NEXT "strong leader" for the airport. Darned if he's going to have to be more careful requesting the kickbacks now.

What are the odds of the governmental agencies paid of the taxes taken from that 'returned' $200k will actually return it to the county? I'm waiting for THAT cage fight...

I agree, Claude. I don't think Turkia will sue, first of all, because she KNOWS what she did and what they will find if they keep digging. Just like Kwame, she will whoop and holler about how wronged she was and how she's a victim, but inside she knows she needs to have a seat because her reign has ended and she's likely going to prison at some point.

The airport consulted with their lawyers, and that's probably why they went behind closed doors on her, so they could talk about all of the dirt they have on her - notice the timing of that lawsuit filed yesterday? There's probably more to come and they know about it. I think they are very confident, after being legally advised, that they have a strong case against her and they can basically void her contract and not pay her another dime. These aren't City of Detroit lawyers, they know what they're doing.

Turkia would be a fool to go after them, with her suspicious background? Please, they will bury her and she'll never be able to show her face again. She'd better have a seat and STHU.

Interesting on the radio this morning, a lawyer pointed out the ethics probe surrounding her severance payout and the mysterious letter that was produced to support it - its possible she was involved in attempting to defraud the public with that letter, and that in itself is also an arrow in the Airport board's bow.

Contract says disputes handled through arbitration. Can not get punitive damages in arbitration. Can not get a dime more than is outlined in arbitration. If Turkia sues in court for discrimination based on a protected status she then must testify under oath. With the FBI running around, she would be a fool to trade her freedom for a possible $million dollar settlement.

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Hey! Careful with that broad brush. The only city attorney I've met is a brilliant and caring woman...who happened to catch a shitstorm for telling the truth about the 36th District Court!


Cheers!

The right decision was made. The girl had too much stink on her and it would have derailed the airport keeping her on as CEO. It is not like they could have put her in the back room and keep her out of sight. That said, it is time for find out how many more former Wayne County employees got this "severance package" for example Warren Evans when he left as Sheriff to become CoP for Detroit. We have known for years that he was collecting a pension from WC while he was Sheriff. Did they add more to the cookie jar?

I thought Turkia was her first name.

According to someone's research, when she was growing up, it was Turkie.


I'm sure she'll blame the 'mean boys' for how she ended up...always teasing her about her name.


Cheers!

The Metro-Airport Authority did their right thing to prevent their reputation to fire Mrs. Mullin. She has no right to take any severance pay while change jobs. She will not getting more severance pay from Metro-Airport, too. She can hire the highest lawyers in the world, but she will have to pay what she had done. And its going to cost our Wayne County taxpayers over $700,000 just to shut her mouth. Please repent your sins Mrs. Mullin and move on with your life. God will use you to better things rather than serving money!

WORD FROM THE STREET PROPHET

For the 99 Percenters and the Spirit of Guy Fawkes, Neda, I miss you so.

I'm sorry, it's hard to follow exactly what's going on here.

What ethical rule did she violate again? I remember she got some huge severance package - was it illegal for her to receive it or something?

I'm not defending her or any of her bosses or anything, but I see a lot of allegations and stuff, I don't see anyone saying "She violated Michigan law xxx part yyy" while doing her job.

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I'm sorry, it's hard to follow exactly what's going on here.

What ethical rule did she violate again? I remember she got some huge severance package - was it illegal for her to receive it or something?

I'm not defending her or any of her bosses or anything, but I see a lot of allegations and stuff, I don't see anyone saying "She violated Michigan law xxx part yyy" while doing her job.

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I'm with you on that. What exactly did this woman do? She took a severance that was offered.

HER behavior in getting the severance is not the issue. The issues should be the behind the scenes stuff about why she got the job[[s) she wasn't qualified for and why the County gave her a severance [[either by contract or by a wink and a nod) from a job she voluntarily left.

As someone said above, if this whole things ends with her getting fired....then we should [[those of us in Wayne county anyway) just quit bitching about how fucked up and corrupt the county government is.

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Originally Posted by JBMcB

I'm sorry, it's hard to follow exactly what's going on here.

What ethical rule did she violate again? I remember she got some huge severance package - was it illegal for her to receive it or something?

I'm not defending her or any of her bosses or anything, but I see a lot of allegations and stuff, I don't see anyone saying "She violated Michigan law xxx part yyy" while doing her job.

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It's very simple. Two months ago. Mrs Tukia Mullin used to work for the big boss Robert "The wife cheater" Ficano. Mrs, Mullin accepted a as CEO of Metro-Airport. Somehow from some source from Wayne County Gov't [[ possibly from Ficano) offered Mrs. Mullin a severance check. But a serverance check on only meant for people who got fired. Mrs Mullin took the check and did whatever she want with it. [[ Servence checks from most county governments are collected from taxpayers like you.). Someone whistblowed the situation and alerted the FBI. They went to Wayne County Seat and issue warrants and supoenas. So far Ficano is the main suspect, but haven't been charged, yet. Most county gov't employees haven't been charged yet, but questioned. Later the Metro-Aiport Board of Directors fired Mrs. Mullen for unjustifiable use of government funds and violation of their code of ethics. The rest is history!

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Originally Posted by Danny

Somehow from some source from Wayne County Gov't [[ possibly from Ficano) offered Mrs. Mullin a severance check. But a serverance check on only meant for people who got fired.

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Severance is a payout when an employee leaves an organization, not only when they are fired or laid off. It can be for any reason - it's up to the employer. If her employer gave her a check, and she didn't extort or blackmail anyone into giving it to her [[she may have, but I haven't heard any evidence of that) what did she do wrong?

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Later the Metro-Aiport Board of Directors fired Mrs. Mullen for unjustifiable use of government funds and violation of their code of ethics. The rest is history!

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I heard that in the news today. What was the unjustifiable use of government funds bit again? The severance package she got? That's not up to her, that was up to her old boss. If she didn't get it under some kickback scheme or something [[again, she may have, but I haven't heard any evidence yet) why was she fired? What ethical code did she violate? Accepting a severance package? Is it up to employees to determine if their compensation is ethical or not?

Sorry, I still don't get it. Her employer gave her too much money - how is that her fault? Something more may be going on, but given the current evidence I don't see how it's more complicated than that.

I agree with JB's questions. In the instant situation, Ms. Mullin was transferred/promoted and accepted a severance package for leaving her old job. This severance pay was offered and accepted. If something was wrong with it, it was in the offering and shoddy methods of justification for it. So far nothing has come out to pin that part on her.

She did inflate her resume quite substantially, particularly pertaining to said prior job. Could that be the reason for firing her? Misrepresentations on applications are often grounds for immediate dismissal.

The hints and allegations regarding her past have come up because of the investigation into the severance, and cast doubts on her integrity which somehow was not in question before. So, maybe they fired her because they no longer trust her, and therefore feel she is not able to do the job for which they hired her. That flies in the face of the judicial system, since she has not been charged with anything, but it does go to the usual hiring method of checking references for reputation. If a reference raises a question, the hiring entity will usually pass on that applicant absent any overwhelmingly positive factors.

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Originally Posted by gazhekwe

She did inflate her resume quite substantially, particularly pertaining to said prior job. Could that be the reason for firing her? Misrepresentations on applications are often grounds for immediate dismissal.

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I hadn't heard that before, that makes sense.

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The hints and allegations regarding her past have come up because of the investigation into the severance, and cast doubts on her integrity which somehow was not in question before. So, maybe they fired her because they no longer trust her, and therefore feel she is not able to do the job for which they hired her.

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I heard their reasoning, however, as far as external factors go into her suitability for continued employment, that stuff has to be in a contract if it doesn't directly involve her job. I haven't heard exactly what clause of her contract she violated. In fact, I don't think the board said exactly why they fired her, beyond vague ethical issues. It could be her resume, but then why aren't they saying that?

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Originally Posted by JBMcB

Severance is a payout when an employee leaves an organization, not only when they are fired or laid off. It can be for any reason - it's up to the employer. If her employer gave her a check, and she didn't extort or blackmail anyone into giving it to her [[she may have, but I haven't heard any evidence of that) what did she do wrong?



I heard that in the news today. What was the unjustifiable use of government funds bit again? The severance package she got? That's not up to her, that was up to her old boss. If she didn't get it under some kickback scheme or something [[again, she may have, but I haven't heard any evidence yet) why was she fired? What ethical code did she violate? Accepting a severance package? Is it up to employees to determine if their compensation is ethical or not?

Sorry, I still don't get it. Her employer gave her too much money - how is that her fault? Something more may be going on, but given the current evidence I don't see how it's more complicated than that.

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In the U.S. the government's word serverance is a form of payment which a person get fired, not for other things. Let's put it into a clear understanding:

Sometimes, they may be offered for people who resign, regardless of the circumstances; or are fired Policies for severance packages are often found in a company's employee handbook, and in many countries are subject to strict government regulation. Severance contracts often stipulate that the employee will not sue the employer for wrongful dismissal or attempt to collect on unemployment benefits, and that if the employee does so, then they must return the severance money. Severance agreements are more than just a "thank you" payment from an employer. They could prevent an employee from working for a competitor and waive any right to possibly pursue a legal claim against the former employer. Also, an employee may be giving up the right to seek unemployment compensation. It is important to review a severance agreement carefully and contact an employment attorney to assist with the review. That is the U.S. Government term of the word severance pay not a corporate severance or other serverances.


Her employer offered Mrs. Mullen the check. She took it and didn't give it back. That's her decision. Mrs. Mullen was working for CEO of Detroit Metro-Airport that is competitor to other local airports in State of Michigan. That's a violation is U.S. Government severance payment policy! Now's she is paying the price and her reputation is ruined by moral decisions from the Board of Directors of Metro-Airport. What the FBI is looking for the link between some person in county gov't and the severance pay towards Mrs Mullin. How is the payment [[ from Wayne County taxpayers) was abused and what serious federal criminal charges when the perp is found. Mrs. Mullin would also be arrested for class one felony of larceny and extortion of U.S. government funds.

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Originally Posted by Danny

In the U.S. the government's word serverance is a form of payment which a person get fired, not for other things. Let's put it into a clear understanding:

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She wasn't working for the US government, she was working for Wayne County in some fashion. Was she working directly for the county, or was she working for one of those quasi-governmental government-funded companies? If the former, then severance *can* be dictated by whatever the laws of the county are, unless Michigan law overrides, if there even is a law. If the latter, then severance means whatever the company decides it means.

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Originally Posted by JBMcB

She wasn't working for the US government, she was working for Wayne County in some fashion. Was she working directly for the county, or was she working for one of those quasi-governmental government-funded companies? If the former, then severance *can* be dictated by whatever the laws of the county are, unless Michigan law overrides, if there even is a law. If the latter, then severance means whatever the company decides it means.

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Government is government whether your working in the state, local, county and federal or quasi form. Mrs. Mullin was working for Wayne County Commisioner Robert Ficano. Wayne County part of is a U.S. government entity, but in a county form. They discuss laws whether to pass or abolished it. Mrs Mullen was a government worker and she was part that U.S. government body. When I was working for Social Security as a clerical. I was working for U.S. government. I can take severance pay as along as I don't take part of another government [[foreign) entity or seek unemployment benefits after left any government [[foreign) entity. All state, local, federal and quasi forms must follow the U.S.government rule of severance plocies. So does Mrs. Mullin and so does me!

Let's not forget that Worthy made her name in the trial of Walter Budzyn and Larry Nevers, two cops convicted of beating Malice Green. While she did go after Kilpatrick, a lot of folks are not going to be keen on a cop prosecutor. Just sayin'

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It doesn't matter that she prosecuted those cops. They beat the crap out of Malice Green. Budzyn and Nevers were scumbags who got what they deserved.

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I could agree more that it should't matter on a professional or personal level. However, if she's going to run for office in Wayne County, there are a lot of voters that will hold that against her. Regardless of her qualifications, a lot of folks stand behind cops no matter what. Can she get enough votes to counter that kind of thinking? dunno.

>Government is government whether your working in the state, local, county and federal or quasi form.

Um, no, no it's not. There are federal regulations that cover federal agencies. Local regulations cover local agencies. If the government of Wayne County was a federal agency then Obama would be in charge of appointing it's director. If Wayne County was a federal agency, it's budget would be set by congress. The Social Security Administration IS a federal agency. Wayne County is not.

Here is the section of US code that deals with severance:
http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text....2.72.7&idno=5

And here's the part that deals with who that covers [[the definition of 'Agency')
http://law.justia.com/codes/us/title5/5usc5595.html

If you can show me the the federal statue that says this stuff applies to state, county, or city governments, or that local governments now fall under the heading of "Executive branch agency," I'd love to see it.

I just read the front page editorial from Bankole Thompson of the Michigan Chronicle in this latest edition...he is SMOKIN' HOT on this issue, and right on target. He includes a few other curious items, including the controversial purchase of the Guardian Buidling.


I would LOVE to learn the specifics of the "under-cover-of-darkness" asbestos abatement that went on at the Guardian during my tenure at Eph's. I spent a good many night, working late, watching the wagon-train of dump trucks arrive faithfully...and never heard a PEEP from anyone about it.

I am quite certain an investigation will find troubles with that job...just a gut feeling, but a strong one. Where's the journalist with the chops to follow up on that one?!


There was some issue with the building going well over budget...but I never, ever heard the term "asbestos"...although I know for sure that is what that company was doing. I wonder if I took any pictures during that time...not likely, my stuff was all strewn about the BoHouse at the time. Don't even think I saw my camera for a year.


Cheers, this is getting good.

L.

O.

L.


The Freep has a picture on their electronic edition that shows Mullin in an almost saintly pose...for Jeff Gerritt's editorial, which I haven't read yet.


At that angle, I can see why Ficano wanted her as his "strong manager". He probably has whip scars on him...

http://detnews.com/article/20111101/METRO01/111010521/Airport-member--Recent-Mullin-transgressions-led-to-firing

I believe this, I think they have something on her that they have not or cannot reveal to the public - yet. They definitely didn't act without consultation or certainty that they are in the power position. Just wait, we will find out soon.

Geez, the Freep already deep-sixed that 'angelic' picture...I should've copied and pasted it here. At least a portion of it, to avoid the copyright police...

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Originally Posted by JBMcB

>Government is government whether your working in the state, local, county and federal or quasi form.

Um, no, no it's not. There are federal regulations that cover federal agencies. Local regulations cover local agencies. If the government of Wayne County was a federal agency then Obama would be in charge of appointing it's director. If Wayne County was a federal agency, it's budget would be set by congress. The Social Security Administration IS a federal agency. Wayne County is not.

Here is the section of US code that deals with severance:
http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text....2.72.7&idno=5

And here's the part that deals with who that covers [[the definition of 'Agency')
http://law.justia.com/codes/us/title5/5usc5595.html

If you can show me the the federal statue that says this stuff applies to state, county, or city governments, or that local governments now fall under the heading of "Executive branch agency," I'd love to see it.

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Anything that has to do with poltics, discussion and debate about how we shape nations and the communities is government. Making laws or abolish it, handling bureaucracies, announcing any declaration of war or creating peace treaties preventing civilian unrests is government.


Those laws that you have posted sets the standards for any government employees who recieves ot don't recieves severance pay. County government like Wayne County is a U.S.Government entity.

Local government, State government, and Federal government. All governmental structures in the United States is in its 'balance of power' meaning no other government is above all others. Thus preventing an over powering governmental structure that could disturb the civil liberties of the American People. Just the way Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, Samuel Addams and all of forethfathers set it up.

I took political science many years ago since middle school.

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http://detnews.com/article/20111101/METRO01/111010521/Airport-member--Recent-Mullin-transgressions-led-to-firing

I believe this, I think they have something on her that they have not or cannot reveal to the public - yet. They definitely didn't act without consultation or certainty that they are in the power position. Just wait, we will find out soon.

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The Metro-Airport has the constitution right to fire any people who just stupid and unethical causes or no cause at all. Mullin took the government severance pay in which she is not allow to do. For the Metro-Airport is a corporate business competing against other local airports. U.S. government severence pay is meant for "thank-you for your service" check after being fired nothing esle. Mrs Mullin didn't get fired from county government. Therefore she is not allow to recieve that U.S. gov't severance check. If she have gotten fired or resign for U.S. government position and went to work for the Metro-Airport then she wouid get the severance check.

Here it is...


Attachment 11062

The Metro-Detroit Airport board has the right not to give Mrs. Mullin her $700,000 severance paycheck. She was greedy to accept a $200,000 U.S. Government severance check and took it which is violation of its policy. Hopefully she would lose the case in the flash and go with her life. You should be looking for another job fast Mrs. Mullin because your income is dissapearing fast.

Mrs Mullin has took the U.S. Government severance check like its some bank bailout money. That course Wayne County taxpayers $200,000 out of hard earn money.

Danny said:
Anything that has to do with poltics, discussion and debate about how we shape nations and the communities is government. Making laws or abolish it, handling bureaucracies, announcing any declaration of war or creating peace treaties preventing civilian unrests is government.

There are divisions of government, each with it's own rules and regulations. It seems you are saying that there aren't.

Those laws that you have posted sets the standards for any government employees who recieves ot don't recieves severance pay. County government like Wayne County is a U.S.Government entity.

No, a county is not an entity of the US federal government, it's an governmental unit defined by the state. Counties mean different things in different states. Two states don't even have counties [[but they have something similar.)

Read the links I posted again. They clearly state that the statues on severance cover EXECUTIVE BRANCH AGENCIES. Here's a list of them from the executive branch's web site:

http://www.loc.gov/rr/news/fedgov.html

County/state/city governments are not on that list. County employees are not covered by these federal statutes. Neither are state or city employees. If you have proof that they are, beyond vague statements about how government works, produce a link to it, please, as everything I've read about the structure of the federal and state governments is wrong.

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Here it is...


Attachment 11062

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The image is fitting since the woman in question said openly that she deserved the money.

I like this line from John Bennett.

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Mullin's termination is very telling because it speaks to her arrogance and from her own mouth a since of entitlement that says I'm not leaving, not I haven't done anything wrong. She would rather drag the County through a legal fight and further scrutiny from the media and feds instead of just leaving.

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Those laws that you have posted sets the standards for any government employees who recieves ot don't recieves severance pay. County government like Wayne County is a U.S.Government entity.

No, a county is not an entity of the US federal government, it's an governmental unit defined by the state. Counties mean different things in different states. Two states don't even have counties [[but they have something similar.)

Read the links I posted again. They clearly state that the statues on severance cover EXECUTIVE BRANCH AGENCIES. Here's a list of them from the executive branch's web site:

http://www.loc.gov/rr/news/fedgov.html

County/state/city governments are not on that list. County employees are not covered by these federal statutes. Neither are state or city employees. If you have proof that they are, beyond vague statements about how government works, produce a link to it, please, as everything I've read about the structure of the federal and state governments is wrong.

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Like I wrote to you, before. Anything that deals laws, abolish laws, handling certian bureacracies, deling with foreign affairs and war and diplomacies, civilar affiars is government. State Federal and local. they all connected when needed. When you a gov't employee severance pay depends when you get fired! not by just quitting your job and move on somplace esle. Those list they you posted deals with rules and regulations of U.S.serverance pay and its downgraded into simplist terms:

Severance pay was instituted to help protect the newly unemployed. Sometimes, they may be offered for people who resign, regardless of the circumstances; or are fired. Policies for severance packages are often found in a company's employee handbook, and in many countries are subject to strict government regulation. Severance contracts often stipulate that the employee will not sue the employer for wrongful dismissal or attempt to collect on unemployment benefits, and that if the employee does so, then they must return the severance money.
Severance agreements are more than just a "thank you" payment from an employer. They could prevent an employee from working for a competitor and waive any right to possibly pursue a legal claim against the former employer. Also, an employee may be giving up the right to seek unemployment compesation. It is important to review a severance agreement carefully and contact an employment attorney to assist with the review.

That is the main rule. of what these long line of U.S. severance packages mean.

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The image is fitting since the woman in question said openly that she deserved the money.

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It does appear to be a money shot, doesn't it?!

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It does appear to be a money shot, doesn't it?!

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That picture said: "stop hatin' bitches"

On the real, I bet when Turkia Mullin saw the front page of the Free Press and caught her face looking defiance and arrogant, all she had to say is "Nice"

So... How and why is she in the wrong for accepting 200K severance? Her severance from the airport was 3 times that. Someone fill me in please.

Danny & the others, as I remember reading through all this from the various sources, there is a state statute that prohibits gov't employees from getting any compensation above & beyond what's in their contract/the unit of gov't's payplan/the unit of gov't's civil service rules, etc. Essentially, while at Wayne Co, she was paid according to the exec service pay plan. That's all she's legally entitile to get, her base pay. No bonus, no commission, no severance. I think this is part of why the Airport Board dismissed her.

The Airport Authority had nothing to do with her severance from the County. Even if it's determined that her severance violated state law, that's a legal issue that would have to be determined in a court. How does that give the Authority a basis to fire her?

..maybe she'll pose for Maxim after this? Hmm...

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No bonus, no commission, no severance. I think this is part of why the Airport Board dismissed her.

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They dismissed her because her former employer screwed up her compensation package? That's the part I don't understand. If she was involved in some kickbacks or something, that's one thing, but if her old boss broke the rules in giving her a severance package, how is that her fault?

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They dismissed her because her former employer screwed up her compensation package? That's the part I don't understand. If she was involved in some kickbacks or something, that's one thing, but if her old boss broke the rules in giving her a severance package, how is that her fault?

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I have been following your post and you keep saying "how is that her fault?" Ms. Mullin is a lawyer. She is no dummy. You don't get a severance for "quitting" a job. The $200,000 was a sweetheart deal and she was well aware of it. Now if you or I was placed in the same position as Ms. Mullin and someone was ready to hand me a check for $200,000, we would both take it because it is $200,000. If Robert Ficano had went into his personal account and paid Turkia Mullin the money then it's all good but he used taxpayers money to give her a sweetheart deal and that was not going to fly.

Danny... you constantly and consistently sound like a liberal d-bag. Nuts never dropped huh? softer than baby thigh

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Danny & the others, as I remember reading through all this from the various sources, there is a state statute that prohibits gov't employees from getting any compensation above & beyond what's in their contract/the unit of gov't's payplan/the unit of gov't's civil service rules, etc. Essentially, while at Wayne Co, she was paid according to the exec service pay plan. That's all she's legally entitile to get, her base pay. No bonus, no commission, no severance. I think this is part of why the Airport Board dismissed her.

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Good for you, jackie. You have follow along with the U.S. Government severance pay rule law and I agree.