Fresh Steps cat litter comnmercials -- they say "your cat may need help finding her litter box"
Cat lovers -- is that really what you want?
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Fresh Steps cat litter comnmercials -- they say "your cat may need help finding her litter box"
Cat lovers -- is that really what you want?
Ok, thoughts at large?
Commercial for Cialis - what's with a medication that gives couples the desire to sit in separate bathtubs on a beach? What's up [[no pun intended) with that? :confused:
Makes it difficult for the drug's purpose to be acted upon
Related thought- why are there so many Cialis ads on the Weather Channel?Quote:
Commercial for Cialis - what's with a medication that gives couples the desire to sit in separate bathtubs on a beach? What's up [[no pun intended) with that?
The HD on my ancient IBM Thinkpad bit the dust for good several days ago. I don't have a spare, so I used my neighbor's desktop computer to burn about 8 Live Linux distros from their download mirrors. The very last disk that I tried, was able to detect my wireless card and router, so I can once again browse the internet, even without a hard drive installed, as the OS runs completely on installed physical memory. You rock, Puppy Linux!!
The Saturn ads about making your payments if you can't pay... isn't the Saturn brand facing discontinuance, and isn't GM facing bankruptcy? Won't everday Joe think; "yes, you'll make my payments IF you are even still around, yeah you're taking a big risk there GM". Was this the best promotion to start right now?
It's because after you hear the long list of negative side effects.... sharing a tub is the last thing on their minds.... :[[
.... and among those side effects... has ANYONE ever sought out medical help for the "more than 4 hours" scenario??? I think not!! :rolleyes:
I also want to know why on earth an Irish Setter would want the Bush's Baked Beans recipe...
I want to know if Dick Cheney's heart is in Davy Jones' locker.
I hope Penske takes the ball and runs with it.
Quite clever rb336.:)
But I am particularly fond of “an army of one” and “be all you can be.” Both focus on the importance of the individual. The first is of course ridiculous. Army’s are groups of individuals organized in a bureaucratic command and control system. The armed forces are a collective and it reflects collective values: we're all in this together; we are looking out for one another; we stand together; we can do collectively what we can't do individually.
Thanks goodness they stop short of "be thy brother's keeper." The armed forces almost sounds socialistic! :rolleyes:
Just like there is no “I” in TEAM, there is no room for disobeyers of orders [[individualism) in a fighting force [[My Lai, Abu Ghraib, et. al., being understandable exceptions).
So what’s needed to entice enlistment…is to turn a government run organization that is collective in its very essence into “an army of one” or a place where you as an individual can “be all that you can be.” That my friends is a BRILLIANT use of spinning to both deny the obvious and glorify the individual.
Let’s just remember that E Pluribus Unum [[out of many, one) really means that you are on you own in this dog-eat-dog society where any hint that a collective approach can actually go some good must be smashed into nothingness. In a conservative worldview this is a pull yourself up by your bootstraps, it’s all about me, pull the ladder up after you kind of competition where only the strong survive…like Gordon Gekko. He’s still alive and well all these years later.
Boy it’s great to have this kind of insight. Thank goodness for all the Colbert Conservatives and Social Darwinists out there. We see and explain the world as it really is.:D
In the previous post, I was quite busy with working on the Colbert trait of "misdirection" and wrote: "Let’s just remember that E Pluribus Unum [[out of many, one) really means that you are on you own in this dog-eat-dog society where any hint that a collective approach can actually go some good must be smashed into nothingness."
Sorry, :[[ I've got to proof these better before posting them. I meant to write "can actually DO some good..."
How about those 10 Commandments? They were a God-inspired set of rules for how people should live together. But unlike government regulations, following the 10 Commandments is optional. :) But there are consequences for not following them...spending eternity in Hell. :mad:
Do you suppose that God put the 10 Commandments in their order of importance? :rolleyes: I do.
If you were God, is it an accident that the first four Commandments deal with how to worship and honor You? Then coming in at Commandment #5 is "Honor thy Father and Mother;" those five cover one entire Tablet that Moses carried down.
And next at the top of Tablet two, coming in at #6, is "thou shalt not kill." That shows you how far our society has moved away from Godliness.
Yes, I know that all of the 10 Commandments need to be followed, if you are a Christian, but I do like their order of presentation!
I believe that the order of presentation is perfect for the way God would have us live. I think the first five are in the order they are so that if you follow them, the next five will easily fall into place.
IMO - This site has a good up-to-date explanation:
http://www.allabouttruth.org/what-ar...dments-faq.htm
At-larege thought:
When you find a body, do you call someone right away or do you light up first?
Contest and perspective...The Bible, and religion that follows, are/were incredibly ingenious and comprehensive stories loosely based on life experiences of some real people who lived thousands of years ago [[incomprehensible for a modern person to understand). This was the vehicle for conveying knowledge at the time, and it took the form of story telling [[and documentation of those stories in the Bible). These are moral/ethical homalies, not literal events, whose purpose was to generate a cohesive and "law" abiding society. The threat of supernatural punishment was the manner in which to enforce the "laws" of the time.
These laws were based on ancient man, prior to philosophical concepts such as right and wrong, and certainly way before economic paradigms like capitalism. With these limited resources, the Bible did a fantastic job of molding what would become our present day societal framework. Some of the lessons therein transcribed still have core values that can be applied to modern man [[others cannot). The point is that this was the foundation of what would become a "civil society". Based on these principles, but then greatly expanded upon in modern terms, is the philosophy that became the foundation of our [[US) society in the form of another incredible document[[s), the US Declaration of Independence, Preamble, and Constitution.
This led to the philosophical perspective that the core value, based on religious seed ideas, of individual liberty and property rights as the most important ethical principle and proper basis for the function of our government [[to protect individual liberty...at home and abroad).
G-d is not a sentient being, but a symbol representing the totality of reality...synonymous with, if not the same as, the world "existence [[or reality, if you like)". In this sense, the question of whether G-d exists, becomes the primary of does existence [[existents) exist....of course they do, and therefore, G-d exists. If, on the other hand, G-d is defined as a mystical sentient being, well, the only rational [[and therefore correct) answer to the question of whether G-d exists, is no....just as gremlins, fairies, and...gasp...Santa Claus do not exist when the question is framed by the absurd and mystical definitions of these entities/characters.
Apply this to the world around you, and things become very much clearer.
I don't disagree with your perspective, as I share it as well, however, what America's governance is based on could be construed as a blending of these ideals with those of the pagan Greeks, whose democratic philosophy was the foundation for our own.
We even developed a government sanctioned imperative to copy classic Greco/Roman architecture as the official architecture of our capital city, it's monuments, offical buildings, museums, libraries, as well as most banks and court buildings across the land.
Trivialities....The big picture perspective is what matters.
You? Lorax, share the belief that individual liberty and property rights are the most important ethical principles forming the basis of the constitutionally limited proper functions of our government?
ccbatson,
Whether you believe in God or not, the bible does not place greater importance on individual liberty and property rights over the "common good" and responsibility to your fellow man. In fact, the bible isn't very much interested in individual liberty at all and constantly calls upon man to set aside perceived "rights" to achieve some greater good. Example: Property owners were required to instruct their workers not to harvest everything that grew in the fields. They were to leave some for the poor to come along and glean. And people who made loans were forbidden from charging interest to their fellow countrymen [[all interest was considered usury). And all debts were to be forgiven in the Year of Jubilee. Another example: Paul instructed Christians that if there was something they were doing, like eating pork, that offended others that they were around, they should avoid doing that, even though they were "at liberty" to do it. Too many examples to list that set aside individual rights and property interests.
Well, the Bible does say give to Cesar what is his, in reference to taxes. That can't be disputed, so one could say the writer was a tax and spend liberal!
Agreed...because the men/women of that time, who wrote the Bible, hadn't even a basic understanding of the concepts.
The industrial revolution led to the giant leap forward in prosperity resulting from the large scale practice of capitalism. This was possible based on the founding of the US and the constitution. Which, in turn, was possible based on the foundation of the Bible [[after many intermediate steps...but you get my point).
By analogy...algebra does not make a world class innovator and inventor...however, it leads to higher math, physics, applied physics, chemistry, computer science......you get my point.
What concept did they not understand? They understood greed and charity. They understood wealth [[great wealth) and poverty. They understood loans and interest rates - they even understood collateral and had rules about what you could demand as collateral. They understood individual vs collective guilt, individual vs. collective liberty and individual vs. collective responsibility and all those concepts are covered throughout in detail.They understood many forms of government: patriarch, monarchy, theocracy, judges, military leaders, republics, puppet kings:), etc.
I suppose "democracy" would be a foreign concept to them though.
I believe that the primary foundation that would have been built upon is "promoting the general welfare and common good". Individual liberty is subservient to the common good in the bible.
From Kingpin-
Brother Thomas, you know what it says in the Bible about not forgiving people.Just like the movie, you can't pick your favorite words out of context. Matthew 22:15-22 from the New International Version:
Why don't you tell us all what it says?
Well, it's against it.
Then the Pharisees went out and laid plans to trap him in his words. They sent their disciples to him along with the Herodians. "Teacher," they said, "we know you are a man of integrity and that you teach the way of God in accordance with the truth. You aren't swayed by men, because you pay no attention to who they are. Tell us then, what is your opinion? Is it right to pay taxes to Caesar or not?"
But Jesus, knowing their evil intent, said, "You hypocrites, why are you trying to trap me? Show me the coin used for paying the tax." They brought him a denarius, and he asked them, "Whose portrait is this? And whose inscription?""Caesar's," they replied. Then he said to them, "Give to Caesar what is Caesar's, and to God what is God's." When they heard this, they were amazed. So they left him and went away.Some Jews believed the new Testament promised the Messiah would lead the Jewish insurrectionists in a war to drive the Romans from Jewish lands so being against such a war would prove he wasn't the Messiah. Others just wanted a reason they could use to get the Romans to arrest him so the Jewish leaders figured they could use any answer he gave against him. Alot of incidences in the bible show Jewish leaders trying to get the Romans to arrest and kill what they considered a false Messiah and his disciples. It was exceedingly difficult to do to the Roman citizen Paul since the Roman beuracrats kept trying to avoid the question by sending it up the chain of command.
10 commandments are copied from Hittite Lord/Vassal contracts. they are nearly identical in form and purpose, but the hittite predates by centuries
I wouldn't say "copied". And I wouldn't use just the 10 commandments in the comparison.
The 10 commandments are like a "summary" of the Law given by Moses. The entire book of Deuteronomy is a more accurate comparison to the Hittite Suzerain [[sp?) Vassal treaties. And not to any specific treaty [[therefore it was not really "copied"). Rather, the treaties all followed the same format. Deuteronomy follows that format, as you say, almost identically.
This is not very surprising considering that the format was apparently also used in Egypt for treaties with foreign laborers [[which is probably what the Hebrews were considered, although we call it slavery.) Moses did well to bring the Law in a format that the Hebrews would recognize. They would see this as a transfer of allegiance from one Lord [[Pharaoh) to the one true Lord [[Jehovah). That knowledge about the way treaties were forged in those days actually makes Deuteronomy's format more understandable.
An interesting exercise would be comparison of the actual specifications of the Hittite treaties with the specifications in Deut. which are very broad and touched every aspect of Hebrew life.
Including the adultery and honoring your father and mother so your days will be long and not being jealous of your neighbor's possessions kind of stuff? I get the first four commandments because they deal with allegiance. And you expect virtually every culture to say: don't kill, steal, lie, etc. But half of the last six seem odd for a treaty. I enjoy understanding things from an historical perspective, so I guess I need to do some more research.
there were provisions for marital fidelity, covetous behavior, perjury, etc. I think it had a passage about keeping children disciplined, but i don't think it had the honor your father and mother bit, and it had something about holy days, but not the sabbath restrictions
Why are there so many hillbillies on Ohio?
Because its next to the hills of Kentucky, West Virginia, and Pennsylvania.
That sounds more like the Code of Hammurabi. That code by the way precedes even the Hittite treaties.I've looked at a couple of the treaties themselves, the one with Egypt and the one between Mursilis and Duppi-Tessub and the similarity is primarily in form.
The Hittite treaties had the form: Preamble [[corresponds to Deut. 1:1-5), Historical Prologue [[Deut. 1:6-3:29, similar tone to the treaties), Stipulations [[Deut 4 - 26, the stipulations are not like those in the treaties), Deposition and periodic reading [[Deut 31, remarkable similarity in content here, in regards to where to place the treaty and a requirement to read it periodically and teach it to future generations), Witnesses [[Deut 31) and curses and blessings [[Deut 28, similar in tone, but Deut is more expansive). The form is identical but the content is different. Deut simply follows the treaty format.
Now the Code of Hammurabi actually has a lot of stipulations that are very similar to those in Deut. Of course, professors pull out the handful of similarities to make their case, without looking at the multitude of differences. There are a lot of those as well.
So, I still think you have to weigh it against all of Deuteronomy, not just the ten commandments, and I think there might be confusion between Hammurabi and the Hittite treaties. Do you have the name of the one you looked at?
That could be, it was years ago and we discussed both topics.
They [[the ancients) did not understand the power of a large scale society composed of individuals acting in their own self interest by the rules of a free market to generate unheard of prosperity...Capitalism. They also didn't understand that the earth was round BTW.
I'll concede only partly. They didn't have modern capitalism, but they did have capitalism. And they clearly understood the power of invididuals acting in their own self interests. They just seemed to have decided that it produced mostly negative results if not controlled. Why else would there be ancient laws against usury and stiff penalties for having false weights?
Capitalism is almost as ancient as man. It goes all the way back to Mesopotamia and Babylonia, at least. You had merchants. You had trade and commerce. You even had inflation. You had people who became quite prosperous for their time. You had government run enterprises [[like the temples in some cultures) and private enterprises. You had taxation on imports and exports and sometimes a waiver of taxation to encourage trade [[there are ancient writings detailing some of this).
The difference is that ancient people did not think very highly of capitalists. The modern Western world made capitalism respectable;)
Any carbonated beverage tastes better in a glass bottle rather than a plastic one.
NCIS Los Angeles. has hollywood officially run out of ideas? Coming soon: NCIS Geat Lakes Naval Station
Along those lines - Cane sugar based pop tastes better than corn syrup based pop and is the standard for most of the world. Yet, Coke, Pepsi and most of the major distributors sell us corn syrup. There is sugar based Coke in the Mexican section of the grocery and small independents like Jones and Hansen sell sugar based pop but why don't the major even sell it as an upscale option? I keep Jones around for company and have had comments like the creme soda is the best they ever had. Green apple is good too.
Jones http://www.jonessoda.com/index.php
Because the plastic is minutely soluble in the acidic soultion. The Feds have examined it and say its not a health risk. Bottlers actually dislike plastic, but it became so popular they had no choice. The plastic is much more permeable than glass so carbonated beverages go flat quicker and juices go bad sooner.
Glass is also best for the environment. The thing I wonder about is why Michigan has bottle returns and the environmentalists in CA don't or why its just not a Federal law. I always feel so wasteful and uncomfortable when throwing away containers in other states.
http://www.webmd.com/parenting/baby/baby-bottles
http://www.canadianliving.com/blogs/...astic-bottles/
Coming from a background in retail where we took in bottle returns [[before all the fancy machines), there is the fragile aspect of glass bottles. Besides the mess of cleaning up the broken glass, and the bloodshed of cut fingers and hands, there was the loss factor. We, the store owner already paid the customer for the return, which we now cannot collect from the distributer.
I also feel guilty throwing away bottles when I travel.
:[[
"Tastes better"?? To some perhaps, to others, perhaps not.
No government subsidies, for anything, is my position on that subject.
well, then, give back your public-school med degree, your grant money, your roads, your police protection, fire dept, radio or any broadcast medium [[to hell with WJR, I'll just start broadcasting a much more powerful signal on that frequency!) give back half of your pay, too
Forgot the other half of the equation there Rb...need a hint? THe fact that the money for all of those things is/was stolen from taxpayers in the first place.
nice dodge, bats. wait -- no it wasn't. give it all back, bats, and don't you dare drive on any public roads either
That isn't even a remotely realistic idea. Why waste your time [[not to mention everyone on DetroitYES) even bringing that up?. Are you really that bored that you must constantly write things to annoy other people?
I believe that trolling on occasion can be humorous and quite a stress reliever, but to do it EVERY DAY is pathetic.
Rb, Public broadcasting uses subsidies. Regulation is a different topic. The other things you mentioned can all be paid for with state and local taxes. Narrowing this to the federal government, it would probably be a good idea to eliminate subsidies wherever possible. In the energy sector, it would be a great idea. The real costs of energy would emerge resulting, I think, in a bonanza for alternative energy development. It makes no sense to spent billions of subsidies to develop clean coal, finance and insure nuclear power plants, drill and/or protect oil interests and then turn around and have to subsidize the development of wind generation to compete with other more heavily subsidized forms of energy. Just eliminate all the subsidies so there is a level playing field.Quote:
Originally Posted by ccbatson http://www.detroityes.com/mb/images/...s/viewpost.gif
No government subsidies, for anything, is my position on that subject.
well, then, give back your public-school med degree, your grant money, your roads, your police protection, fire dept, radio or any broadcast medium [[to hell with WJR, I'll just start broadcasting a much more powerful signal on that frequency!) give back half of your pay, too
Federal subsidies for housing has been a huge disaster by getting people into loans they can't afford and creating a now burst housing bubble.
Even at the state level, subsidies can be cut back. I know of a small city that got grants to beautify its flagging downtown and otherwise save it. One government worker was hired as a coordinator to write grants, get all the businesses to use the same Christmas lighting, plant some flowers, etc.. Then another government agency comes along and gave $250k of 'TIF" subsidies to Walgreens to locate a store there. That subsidy resulted in two existing downtown pharmacies closing their doors and undoing the work of the subsidized government coordinator.
It is illogical and rhetorical to suggest that after Bats has been forced to pay for this or that, that he can't try to get some of it back. If and when I qualify for an income tax refund or a social security check, I intend to take them to try to claw back some of what has been taken. If it was my money when the government confiscated it, it is still mine when the government gives a fraction of it back.
Back to the title line with thoughts from Las Vegas.
Why does nearly every ad for an automobile portray that auto being driven in a reckless, negligent manner with the dumb words "professional driver on closed course" faintly appear at the bottom?
It's 107 with a predicted high of 111 today. Why do I wish I was back in Michigan just right now?
Why does Fernando Rodney give me heart failure every time he comes into the 9th inning for the save?
Was it intentional that the Big Beaver exit on I-75 was exit # 69?
Went through Toledo a couple years back. Aren't we lucky that we lost the border war?
How come there's no "MilfordYES!" or "RomeoYES!"?
Went to Utah Sunday. It was closed.
Attended a Yanni concert last week. He cut his hair and now looks like Magglio Ordonez.
Lake Mead is full of Quagga mussels. I knew we shouldn't have snuck that pipeline into the Great Lakes.
How in the world do we accumulate so many photographs that no longer hold any meaning for us? Landscapes, etc.
Finally, thanks to ccbats for paying into Social Security and keeping me in the manner to which I have become accustomed. :)
Either way, end those programs. What were Democrats doing creating programs to subsidize speculators anyway? If you are saying the government borrowed money to finance its housing follies, then interest has to be paid on the borrowed Chinese money. The interest paid for borrowed money is a program subsidy.
Why are there sequels to something called "Final Destination"?
they changed their minds?
They duped speculators by priming the pump and pushing the derivatives.
If that were the case, they would have made Beaver Road exit #169. Instead it is exit #168. I think it would have been so much better as 169.Quote:
Was it intentional that the Big Beaver exit on I-75 was exit # 69?
Rb, read up on Larry Summers. In 1999, Summers was a proponent within the Clinton administration of the Gramm bill to deregulate the banking industry, and as such, bears responsibility for the current environment. President Obama has promoted Larry Summers to Director of the White House's National Economic Council. And didn't Jimmy Carter have something to do with Fannie and Freddie and the Housing and Community Development Act of 1977? You know, the programs that imploded under the deregulation and push to issue loans to unqualified loan applicants under Clinton and Bush. Don't shoot the messenger this time; its Democrat.
http://www.democraticunderground.com...ss=389x4399526
still nothing to contradict my comment in any way, shape or form
Fannie/Freddie imploded for a number of reasons, and yes, the speculative market did cause it problems, but NOT because they were underwriting the speculators, but because speculation created an untennable market situation. There WAS NO PUSH for fannie and freddie to make loans to unqualified applicants. that is pure right-wing fictionQuote:
And didn't Jimmy Carter have something to do with Fannie and Freddie and the Housing and Community Development Act of 1977? You know, the programs that imploded under the deregulation and push to issue loans to unqualified loan applicants under Clinton and Bush. Don't shoot the messenger this time; its Democrat.
To further support rb336, neither side needed to push for loans to unqualified people because neither side opposed it. The Republicans loved that they could write bad loans, take the money, and then flip the risk to the stock market. The Democrats loved that every undeserving moron out there could get a home of their own. They all refer to the other side's participation because they can't refer to their opposition. Its what makes Barney Frank so despicable; he talks about how others effect things as though he has even less power than you or I.
Both parties are up to their necks in Fannie and Freddie. It was a bad idea from the beginning. I have twice before asked what has Fannie/Freddie ever provided that is worth more than the bailouts that Fannie/Freddie received. If so, what?
If anyone wants to find out more about Fannie and Freddie, a good selection of articles is here and includes links to Open Secrets and The Center for Public Integrity.
http://solari.com/archive/freddie-fannie-penny-stocks/
A sample-
It turns out that David Hisey, the Chief Financial Officer of Fannie Mae appointed on August 27, 2008 after the government takeover, once worked at KPMG. And who were they? They were the auditors for HUD and FHA under Andrew Cuomo when the housing bubble got going and $59 billion plus went missing from the agency. [[See our Missing Money page for more.)
So here is the latest tidbit in from a network member. Hisey was an audit partner and worked on the HUD/FHA audit account at KPMG during all the shenanigans. Remember, just because Fannie Mae is in conservatorship does not mean that more assets can not disappear.
Ah. Wisdom from Ms Fitts. I sometimes agree with her, but she always conveniently starts things after her stint with HUD under Bush the Elder [[yes, blame everyone, but I had nothing to do with it!)
Please note that I did not once mention her several appearances on the wonderfully whacky late-night freakshow, Coast to Coast
oops. oh well
Wrong. Very wrong. She wrote extensively about the corruption she found within the Bush administration. You are shooting the wrong messenger unless her sin was to note the corruption under both Republicans and Democrats. Here is a list of people both democrat and repubican that she reemed in just one of her articles.
http://www.dunwalke.com/resources/people.htm
Try to fit this Fitts story to your statement.
"Brady, Bush, Bechtel, and "the boys"
Here is a sample from that article linking Bush I with drug running operations. "Thanks to numerous journalists and members of the enforcement community, the documentation on Mena drug running and the related money laundering is quite serious and makes the case that the government was engaged or complicit in significant narcotics trafficking. This includes the various relationships to employees of the National Security Council, the Department of Justice and the CIA under Vice President Bush’s leadership"
Don't believe everything you read on Wonkette.
Nothing wrong with it..just not a credible venue for credible people.
Fitts is very even handed in her scornful reports on what happened in each administration. She is convinced that housing agencies have been used to funnel money into military/security black budget items. Her solution, and she says it to anyone who will listen, is that we must invest in our own communities. I think she is too inflamatory and has the goods on too many politicians to be allowed on Larry King or Chris Matthews. I mean, they don't want to discuss the Bush and Clinton involvement in Mena, Arkansas CIA drug trafficing. That gets a little tricky. Its much safer to discuss Michael Jackson's legacy.
Wonkette? My attempt at a sarcastic funny. Wonkette is a sort of PC DC gossip. http://wonkette.com/ For instance, instead of considering why the president Obama is visiting the Italian Prime Minister for the second time since the $134B of treasuries were being smuggled out of Italy on June 3rd, the PM's party life is discussed.
what's up with nitrogen? first, they want us to put it in our tires, claiming getting rid of that 22% of normal air that isn't nitrogen has some benefit in reducing oxidation or something. so it will ad what, three days to the life of the tire? I know it is used in aircraft and the shuttle primarily because it doesn't burn
and since it doesn't combust, this is a natural...
now i see it "enhancing" gasoline. What, exactly, is the benefit there?
There is none.
It's just another gimmick to defraud people of their hard earned money. Air is free- now they want us to pay for that too.
Reminds me of how cable was suppose to be commercial free, since we paid a nominal charge. Now there's more commercials on cable than anywhere else.
Corporations, when left to their own desires, will find a way to nickel and dime the consumer into oblivion.
Oh, that's right, we're already there.
Starting to wake up a bit to the various myths out there Rb? Like what you see? Sit down, take a deep breath, and look the myth of manmade global warming square in the face. Now that the objective [[taxing the you know what out of all of us) has crystalized, the con makes clear diabolic sense [[as I have always said it would).
Is this "diabolic" enough for you?
http://www.fotosearch.com/bthumb/ISI...7/DIFLI046.JPG
I get called a Republican and get blamed for stuff that is not my fault cause I really cross party lines when I vote. One thing I cannot figure out is why I like Obama and yet cannot stand the leadership of the democratic party? Who knows and who cares.
I, as always, am the first to point out myths. as j72 points out, you seem to be suckered in by most of them. you believe things that can not be proven in the face of overwhelming scientific proof to the contrary. you believe in the mystical "invisible hand" god of radical market fundamentalists, even though EVERY instance of unregulated markets throughout history, from the Dutch tulip market on, has resulted in financial disaster
History proves the effectiveness of capitalism repeatedly, as it does the failures of socialism [[right now being a prime example...with facts all over the place, deficits, unemployment, GDP, etc).
Speaking of myths that cannot be proven [[by design), try manmade global warming on for size.
Riddle: You have two coins that add up to 30¢. One of them isn't a nickel. What are the two coins?
Press Ctrl-A for the answer:
A quarter and a nickel. The coin that isn't a nickel is the quarter.
Do liberals realize that climatologists are documenting a global cooling period right now? And predicting the beginning of a decade [[or more) long naturally occurring cooling period?
Its his attitude and manner of treating people. He tries to solve problems rather than laying blame for them. He says lets work together to help the needy rather than I'm going to make you give back what you stole from the needy you dirty son-of-a-bitch. He's also willing to admit when he's made a mistake and say nobody is perfect, lets try again with a new approach. He even listens to the other side. I've seen it work for corporate managers as well.
You probably also liked the Republican party, but was crushed and disheartened by the Bush administration after they were reelected because Obama is everything Bush refused to be.
Charisma + charm + media worship of him = personal approval despite an evil and a very harmful agenda.
Try humility + open mind + treating people with respect = A man of character deserving of respect.
Maybe the respect item [[a minimum requirement)...the others are laughable claims as he is the antithesis of both.
The Bush crew never treated their opponents with any respect to the point you have to wonder if there is something psychologically wrong with Cheney. The only thing that Bush's press conferences had in common was that you knew no matter what the facts or change in circumstances, he was going to swear to stay the course.
Like?? I recall no examples of disrespectful treatment.
Try these on for size:
Prick Cheney:
Cheney, serving in his role as president of the Senate, appeared in the chamber for a photo session. A chance meeting with Sen. Patrick J. Leahy [[Vt.), the ranking Democrat on the Judiciary Committee, became an argument about Cheney's ties to Halliburton Co., an international energy services corporation, and President Bush's judicial nominees. The exchange ended when Cheney offered some crass advice.
"Fuck yourself," said the man who is a heartbeat from the presidency.
"Oh, yeah. He is. Big time.'' --agreeing with then-candidate George W. Bush, who was overheard at a campaign rally saying, "There's Adam Clymer, major league asshole from The New York Times," Sept. 4, 2000
George Bush:
"You work three jobs? ... Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic that you're doing that." --to a divorced mother of three, Omaha, Nebraska, Feb. 4, 2005
This is an impressive crowd -- the haves and the have mores. Some people call you the elite -- I call you my base." --at the 2000 Al Smith dinner
Home run, Lorax.:cool:
Please, welcome to my home. Would you like anything? Coffee, tea, water boarding?
Thank you for your support. I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship. Just remember, that you're either for us or against us.
Its frighteningly similar to something I heard in a movie.
Anakin Skywalker: Don't lecture me, Obi-Wan! I see through the lies of the Jedi. I do not fear the dark side as you do. I have brought peace, freedom, justice, and security to my new Empire.
Obi-Wan Kenobi: Your new Empire?
Anakin Skywalker: Don't make me kill you.
Obi-Wan Kenobi: Anakin, my allegiance is to the Republic, to democracy.
Anakin Skywalker: If you're not with me, then you're my enemy.
Obi-Wan Kenobi: Only a Sith deals in absolutes.
Oh, you meant being disrespectful to terrorists...carry on then...sheesh.
Lucas's popcorn Sci Fi is entertaining, but not consistent philosophical theory. Obi-Wan's last line there is hilarious and self contradictory...he absolutely asserts the absolute that only Sith's deal in absolutes...is Obi-Wan a Sith?
Even better from the 3 stooges: Mo: Only fools are positive.
Larry: Are you sure?
Mo: I'm positive.
Yeah, I suppose if you define everyone that has a different opinion than you to be a terrorist.
That was a compliment directed at the person working 3 jobs.
Why can't my stupid neighbors learn to close the dumpster doors?