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DetroitYES Forums - Discuss Detroit http://www.detroityes.com/mb/ en Tue, 17 Jan 2017 14:13:59 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.detroityes.com/mb/images/misc/rss.png DetroitYES Forums - Discuss Detroit http://www.detroityes.com/mb/ Insurance rates in the city http://www.detroityes.com/mb/showthread.php?22121-Insurance-rates-in-the-city&goto=newpost Tue, 17 Jan 2017 02:23:56 GMT It would seem like there is pretty good incentive for the state to keep rates high across the board. ...
It would seem like there is pretty good incentive for the state to keep rates high across the board.

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/new...sues/96627980/

The state also made more than $320 million in insurance industry business taxes in 2016.

interesting read on past incentives.
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<![CDATA[Detroit Mayor Duggan's Bodyguards]]> http://www.detroityes.com/mb/showthread.php?22120-Detroit-Mayor-Duggan-s-Bodyguards&goto=newpost Mon, 16 Jan 2017 19:29:09 GMT Just wondering how many bodyguards Mayor Duggan has.
Just wondering how many bodyguards Mayor Duggan has.
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The Great Mobility Disruption and The Future of Parking in Detroit http://www.detroityes.com/mb/showthread.php?22119-The-Great-Mobility-Disruption-and-The-Future-of-Parking-in-Detroit&goto=newpost Mon, 16 Jan 2017 19:05:33 GMT
The disruption in mobility being created by the arrival of internet-based ride-sharing services [Uber, Lyft et. al.] combined with the advent of self-driving vehicles has huge implications for everything from parking space to how people move about and, consequently, for urban planning in Detroit and our economic lifeblood auto industry.

This excellent article by Crain's Chad Livengood lays out the issue - planning for a future where we are less dependent on the single-occupant, single-destination vehicle. Consider the following.

Quote:

Duggan suggested last week at the North American International Auto Show that Detroit may not need thousands of new parking spaces in multistory parking garages to accommodate the influx of workers and residents to the city's central core.

"If self-driving vehicles are really close, it may not be that people are going to drive a car and store it for eight hours in a structure," Duggan said at a forum of U.S. mayors at Cobo Center. "It may be that the self-driving car drives you to work, goes back home and does errands with your spouse."
Quote:

"The difficult question is, do you build today to meet near-term demand knowing that 10, 15, 20 years from now that demand isn't going to be there?"

City Planning Director Maurice Cox said his department's change in thinking on the future of use of cars for commuting is being driven by its own employees. Of the 25 new employees hired by the planning department in the past year, only five of them drive a personal vehicle to work every day, Cox said. The other 20 are using ride-sharing services, taking a bus, riding a bike or walking, he said.

"If they are any way a reflection of the next generation of people moving to Detroit, it suggests we don't have to build parking for everyone to have a car," Cox said.
My take? I love my "single-occupant, single-destination" car. I love being able to hop in it on whim and pretty much drive door-to-door and back whenever I wish. But I am aging and should the future hold the difference between, say, not seeing a exhibition at the DIA, or going there via a self-driver? Hmmm...

Time to discuss what may be the most important economic factor facing Metro Detroit-Windsor - the future of mobility.
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Current Las Vegas odds on Detroit teams http://www.detroityes.com/mb/showthread.php?22118-Current-Las-Vegas-odds-on-Detroit-teams&goto=newpost Sun, 15 Jan 2017 17:19:14 GMT
With the Lions out of it, my attention turned to the other three Detroit teams to see where to put my money. Alas, the current 'offers':
Pistons to win NBA championship: 225-1 (Favorite: Golden State, 4-5)
Wings to win Stanley Cup: 125-1 (Favorite: Columbus, 13-2)
Tigers to win World Series: 30-1 (Favorite: Cubbies, 15-4)

Guess I have to agree on the Pistons and Wings, but with a little luck, the Tigers could pull it out. Guess I'll wander down to the sports book and drop ten bucks or so. Three Hundred Bucks would be nice in late October. :cool:
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Rehab center fighting neighborhood/city. http://www.detroityes.com/mb/showthread.php?22117-Rehab-center-fighting-neighborhood-city&goto=newpost Sat, 14 Jan 2017 14:00:07 GMT http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2017/01/12/william-taylor-detroit-lawsuit-addicts/96504210/ I sympathize with both sides. ...
http://www.freep.com/story/news/loca...icts/96504210/

I sympathize with both sides.

Taylor is doing work 99 percent of the world would spit on.

But that neighborhood has taken it on the ass, and no one really wants to live by that.

Of course he did turn an abandoned school into a legitimate business and I don't see entrepreneurs beating down the doors to develop at Dexter-Davison.
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<![CDATA[Australian Software Company Buys Pontiac's Phoenix Center - Moving HQ There. But wait]]> http://www.detroityes.com/mb/showthread.php?22116-Australian-Software-Company-Buys-Pontiac-s-Phoenix-Center-Moving-HQ-There-But-wait&goto=newpost Fri, 13 Jan 2017 15:12:31 GMT
Pontiac's Phoenix Center was, like the Renaissance Center for Detroit, envisioned as massive project to trigger rejuvenation of downtown Pontiac. Like the Renaissance Center it was a massive failure. RenCen was eventually bought for a song by GM and is becoming the major downtown player as originally hoped for.

Not so for Phoenix center that has languished and become another crumbling liability tied up in litigation. "BoonEx has told the city it would relocate its North American headquarters from Atlanta to two office towers connected to the Phoenix Center." Pontiac City Council has approved the sale.

Sounds great, right? So help me out. Why doesn't this smell right? I can find little about this company and searches for corporate profiles yield scattered information. Some say it has less than 50 employees. It doesn't even show up in a search of the Georgia Department of Economic Development or Metro Atlanta Chamber sites. And they are relocating to TWO towers?

Is this a redux of the Silverdome deal?

Quote:

In a deal that is to close Feb. 13, the city would sell the parking deck for $3 million but gain no money because of liens outstanding on the structure, which the city has failed for decades to maintain, attorneys at the meeting told city officials, the Free Press reported.

Mayor Deirdre Waterman said the deal is a "win-win for the people of Pontiac" because it releases them from lawsuits with the owners of Ottawa Towers, which could've ultimately cost the city more than $20 million, the Free Press said...

The city has been tied up for several years in lawsuits with the owners of Ottawa Towers — Michigan-based Ottawa Tower II LLC and North Bay Drywall Inc. Profit Sharing Plan and Trust. The lawsuits center on the city's bid to demolish the Phoenix Center.

The deal would offer several benefits for a city trying to emerge from troubled times, Waterman said. BoonEx would pay the city $3 million for the structure, Waterman said, putting an end to the city's ongoing litigation. Pontiac would also save $2 million in demolition costs, she said. Finally, BoonEx would help breath new life into the city and help establish it as an up-and-coming tech hub, Waterman said.
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Detroit is #1 (on this list at least) http://www.detroityes.com/mb/showthread.php?22115-Detroit-is-1-(on-this-list-at-least)&goto=newpost Fri, 13 Jan 2017 13:56:53 GMT The 15 cities where you can live well on a $60,000 salary. ...
The 15 cities where you can live well on a $60,000 salary.

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/13/the-1...-on-60000.html
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Old Detroit Yellow Pages Phone Book / Telephone Directory http://www.detroityes.com/mb/showthread.php?22114-Old-Detroit-Yellow-Pages-Phone-Book-Telephone-Directory&goto=newpost Fri, 13 Jan 2017 05:48:29 GMT
I'm looking for an old consumer yellow pages phone book for Detroit, from any year between the mid-80's and late 90's. Does anyone know a good place to find such a thing? Are there any used bookstores that may sell them? I'm sure there are people who have them collecting dust in their basement or attic... I've searched ebay and the google without luck. Thanks!
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10 Things to Do in the D this Weekend - Jan 13-15, 2017 http://www.detroityes.com/mb/showthread.php?22111-10-Things-to-Do-in-the-D-this-Weekend-Jan-13-15-2017&goto=newpost Thu, 12 Jan 2017 20:05:14 GMT 1. Check out larger-than-life light sculptures popping up in downtown Detroit for LuminoCITY (http://www.luminocitydet.com/). 2. Mix high fashion...
  1. Check out larger-than-life light sculptures popping up in downtown Detroit for LuminoCITY.
  2. Mix high fashion and hot wheels at the annual Charity Preview for the North American International Auto Show, which opens to the public Saturday.
  3. Gallery hop with friends throughout Detroit during this month's Second Saturday.
  4. Glimpse of the future in art at the Young People's Biennial opening reception at the Museum of Contemporary Art Detroit.
  5. Roar with R&B singer-song writer Faith Evans at MotorCity Casino Hotel's Soundboard.
  6. Sample frosty brews at the Polar Beer Club's bash at the Royal Oak Farmers Market.
  7. Cuddle with critters at a special exhibit at the Ann Arbor Hands-On Museum.
  8. Sample some one-act plays and musicals at Village Theater at Cherry Hill in Canton.
  9. Groove with a jazz organ quartet at Kerrytown Concert House in Ann Arbor.
  10. Hum along with the man behind the mask at the "Phantom of the Opera" at Michigan Opera Theatre in Detroit.

Bonus: Things to do in Detroit while you are in town for the auto show

Kickoff list from Crain's Detroit Business. Add your suggestions below.
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Question about old Tiger Stadium and the parking lot for the Detroit Lions http://www.detroityes.com/mb/showthread.php?22108-Question-about-old-Tiger-Stadium-and-the-parking-lot-for-the-Detroit-Lions&goto=newpost Thu, 12 Jan 2017 03:45:28 GMT
Has been a few years ... more than a few years, actually :o ... since I've visited DetroitYes!

About ten years ago, I started working on a book project about Chuck Hughes, the Detroit Lions' receiver who collapsed and died in Tiger Stadium on October 24, 1971. Got a ton of help from folks here at DetroitYes!

Unfortunately, had to set the project aside for several years. Lots of reasons for that which might all sound like excuses. Suffice to say, a couple years back, I decided enough time had passed and that I had grown tired of having this thing looming over me. I decided to renew my efforts to get this biography done and off my plate. I am now within a couple months of completing my manuscript on Hughes - his life, death and legacy.

With that in mind, I have returned to DetroitYes! with a question I am hoping someone here, some long-time Detroiter, might be able to help me with.

It involves the location of a player's parking lot for the Detroit Lions while they were playing at Tiger Stadium.

Before I go any further, I know the Tigers' players, up until 1994, used to park on Tiger Stadium property. Their lot was located where the team later created the Tiger Alley area north of Michigan Avenue. That may well have been where the Lions' players parked. However, in a couple of the 250+ interviews I did for this project - one with the late, great Charlie Sanders and the other with hard-hitting safety Tommy Vaughn - another area was hinted at. I didn't realize its importance to me until many years after the fact.

During my interviews with Charlie and Tommy, they both mentioned a "tunnel" that apparently existed beneath Tiger Stadium. One that emerged into a player's parking area on the other side of an unnamed street. So there is no confusion, here are the exact quotes.

What follows is a snippet from an interview I completed with Charlie Sanders on Jan. 27, 2007. He's talking about leaving Tiger Stadium after learning of Chuck Hughes' death. “By that time, word had made it outside to the wives, where they used to wait for us in that old tunnel down under Tiger Stadium. Every time the door would open and a player would come out, you could hear the sobbing coming from inside.”

What follows is a snippet from an interview I completed with Tommy Vaughn on Jan. 14, 2007. He is also talking about when he left Tiger Stadium that day: "I finally got my things together and walked out the ballpark through the old tunnel underneath the stadium. It comes up on the other side of the street in the player’s parking lot. I was getting in my car when I saw one of my guys – he lived down the street from me and I gave him tickets for the game. He yelled out to me, ‘Vaughn – how’s Chuck?’ I kind of stopped and finally said, ‘He didn’t make it, man.’ And he says to me, ‘He died?’’ And I say, ‘Yeah. Chuck died.’ I couldn’t believe I was actually saying that."

So ... can anyone ... anyone ... confirm that there was a parking lot for the Detroit Lions' players *beyond* the confines of Tiger Stadium? Perhaps off Cochrane? Or Michigan Avenue? A lot that was connected to Tiger Stadium via some underground tunnel of some type?

Well ... all I can do now is wait and hope someone who comes here can assist me. Thank you in advance!
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Steamship Ste. Claire http://www.detroityes.com/mb/showthread.php?22107-Steamship-Ste-Claire&goto=newpost Wed, 11 Jan 2017 20:10:40 GMT This Bob-lo boat - and National Historic Landmark - was tied up in the River Rouge near the Dix Bridge for about two years. I head that it was towed...
This Bob-lo boat - and National Historic Landmark - was tied up in the River Rouge near the Dix Bridge for about two years. I head that it was towed away from that dock this month. Does anyone know where it was taken?
Thanks
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Teach Me About Current-Day Del Ray http://www.detroityes.com/mb/showthread.php?22106-Teach-Me-About-Current-Day-Del-Ray&goto=newpost Wed, 11 Jan 2017 03:39:45 GMT Was hoping some on here could enlighten me about the Del Ray neighborhood? Recently spent some time driving around the neighborhood for the first...
Was hoping some on here could enlighten me about the Del Ray neighborhood?

Recently spent some time driving around the neighborhood for the first time in years. Since then I've done quite a bit of reading online about its history, but not much about current state of the area other than articles discussing the new bridge being built through the neighborhood and the high pollution levels.

Was hoping some DetroitYes members could provide further insight? The neighborhood appears to be very quiet and desolate in areas - are any particular areas of the neighborhood dangerous (ie along Dearborn or Livernois)? Has the small number of residents along with the difficult conditions created a united, close-knit community in the neighborhood? I noticed several businesses and establishments still in the area - which ones are hubs of the community/would you recommend checking out? Etc.
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Detroit Mayoral Race 2017 http://www.detroityes.com/mb/showthread.php?22105-Detroit-Mayoral-Race-2017&goto=newpost Wed, 11 Jan 2017 00:01:07 GMT
Filed- Devonna Harvey CEO of Divine impressions, past General Motors
Education FAMU
Myya Jones- MSU

Incumbent-Duggan

Possible Speculation- Barrow..lol
Sigmunt Szczepkowski..lol
Dr.Telford
John Olumba
Krystal A. Crittendon
Brenda Jones
Pick Any Sheffield
James Tate
Rev. Charles Williams

Wild Speculation- Charlie LeDuff
Sam Riddle

2017 candidates
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Focus Hope Layoffs http://www.detroityes.com/mb/showthread.php?22104-Focus-Hope-Layoffs&goto=newpost Tue, 10 Jan 2017 18:16:25 GMT Focus Hope will be permanently eliminating 120 jobs. 110 General Assemblers and 10 hi-lo drivers. I never knew that Focus Hope had that many...
Focus Hope will be permanently eliminating 120 jobs. 110 General Assemblers and 10 hi-lo drivers. I never knew that Focus Hope had that many employees, nor was I aware that they "assembled" things there. I wonder if they laid off any of their executives/managers?


http://www.detroitnews.com/story/new...roit/96395010/
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Legislation to Eliminate the State Income Tax? http://www.detroityes.com/mb/showthread.php?22103-Legislation-to-Eliminate-the-State-Income-Tax&goto=newpost Tue, 10 Jan 2017 04:11:10 GMT Not so sure that brick and mortar retail is healthy enough to make up a 9 Billion dollar hole in the state budget though I will agree that the...
Not so sure that brick and mortar retail is healthy enough to make up a 9 Billion dollar hole in the state budget though I will agree that the current personal tax system in this state has gone off the edge of a cliff here making it not one of the most desirable states to live in compared to many others.

My choice would be a hard look at property tax relief since that is the first thing that is always thrown at virtually any employer that is willing to make a capital investment in Michigan.

I'm curious which tax everyone else thinks is the most prohibitive tax in this state to growth? Not as much about the far right or far left but the people who are more in the middle. "All of them" or "Tax corporations more" wouldn't be as interesting of a discussion.

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/new...nate/96245982/
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