Sick Turtle swims to hospital

[Johnlodge]

http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/Sick-Sea-Turtle-Pays-Unexpected-Visit-To-The-Doctor.html


A loggerhead sea turtle nearly swam to the door step of the Florida Keys Turtle Hospital (http://www.nbcmiami.com/topics?topic=Turtle+Hospital), the only licensed veterinary facility in the world that solely treats sea turtles. The 73-pound reptile was suffering from a bacterial infection and somehow knew exactly where to go for help -- no Yellow Pages needed.

[rb336]

I wonder if it had been treated there previously? loggerheads are great navigators

[Sstashmoo]

Does he have insurance, or does he plan on stiffin' the joint?

[Detroit Stylin]

He can just use the emergency room as insurance....duh....

[d.mcc]

Lets eat them...animals are dumb, and only humans are sentient beings...

[ccbatson]

Bizarre and funny coincidence.

[Bearinabox]

Bizarre and funny coincidence.
Whoa? Ccbatson seems to get it...liberal? :)

[ccbatson]

Logic is conservative.

[d.mcc]

Logic is conservative.

But not compassion

[rb336]

Logic is conservative.

no, it isn't

logic has NO ideology

I would still put money on the turtle having a previous connection to the clinic

[ejames01]

This is no different than animals finding a watering hole hundreds of miles away during a drought.

[Kelton]

My first post on the new forum, here we go. hmmmm, do I need to fill out the title above? On to the subject....

We toured the Turtle Hospital in the Keys back in the beginning of February. What a great place! They rescue, rehab and release all types of turtles there. They would have known if this particular turtle had been there before because they tag each one they release.

They also have some "lifers" that will spend the rest of their life at the hospital because they would not survive on their own.

Take a look at the website, it's really fascinating what they can do for these animals.

http://www.turtlehospital.org/blog/?page_id=455

Page down a little and you'll see Montel. We "adopted" him for a year. The poor guy has gone through a lot, as you can read for yourself. Many have been hit by boat propellers, bitten by sharks, entangled in fishing nets, ingested fishing filament, developed tumors all over their bodies, etc. I'm glad there's a place to care for them.

[ccbatson]

Compassion is not a characteristic of an effective system of government, or an economy.

[rb336]

Compassion is not a characteristic of an effective system of government, or an economy.


says who? oh, i guess it is you. according to
YOUR ideology it isn't, but your ideology can't enjoy the wonders of the natural world unless you can catch that turtle and sell it on the open market as turtle soup, until it and its cousins are gone for good

[ccbatson]

"Effective" system...read more carefully Rb.

Socialist collectivist systems are very "compassionate" OR CLAIM TO BE, by they are not effective.

[rb336]

"Effective" system...read more carefully Rb.

Socialist collectivist systems are very "compassionate" OR CLAIM TO BE, by they are not effective.


I read perfectly carefully, and you haven't answered the question. who says your way is effective? pretty much just you and a bunch of yahoos who elieve market fundamentalist crap even though your ideas have gone down in flames. and by "effective" what do you mean? effective at what? your system is certainly effective at concentrating wealth and power in the fewest possible hands, reducing the rest of the population to drones. is it effective in providing the greatest benefit to the greatest number of people? clearly not

[ccbatson]

History answers the question as I have pointed out Rb.

Wealth is not possible under socialism, so redistribution of it is a moot point.

[Pam]

I'm pretty sure turtles don't care about socialism or capitalism.

[Thames]

And what makes you so sure Pam?:)

[Pam]

And what makes you so sure Pam?


Just a hunch based on the available evidence.

[rb336]

History answers the question as I have pointed out Rb.

Wealth is not possible under socialism, so redistribution of it is a moot point.

Sorry, bats, but with your history of reading history through rand-vision goggles while totally overlooking the facts has been well documented. show me 1) what your definition of "effective" is and why it is the only possible valid definition; 2) that there are specific cases in history that back you up; and 3) that such cases are universal and that no system that considers compassion has ever been successful

[ccbatson]

Much easier to go from the opposite direction and look at the failures of all, so called, compassionate systems. Communism, Socialism, etc.

[d.mcc]

So which Communist government failed? (Careful - trick question!).

None that I can think of...Marxism on the other hand

[ccbatson]

North Korea, CCCP, North Vietnam, Cuba, and on deck...China

[eriedearie]

Would someone explain to me how a thread about a sick turtle turned into more political crap?

Can't we just be amazed and give the poor turtle a whoooohooooo - way to go dude?

Sheesh :confused:

[rb336]

Would someone explain to me how a thread about a sick turtle turned into more political crap?

Can't we just be amazed and give the poor turtle a whoooohooooo - way to go dude?

Sheesh :confused:


because we always end up at "loggerheads"?

sorry, had to do it.

I love sea turtles, and regularly donate to the Turtle Hospital

www.turtlehospital.org

[Kelton]

Eriedearie, I 've been wondering the same thing ever since I posted an informative post with a link directly to the Turtle Hospital. Not one person responded to that post because the thread got hijacked by by the same ol' garbage. Someone gave a little "in jest" poke at CCBatson and he responded. Then it just stayed off topic with the back and forth arguing about the political views of a few posters.

I'm reposting the link here because the link in the post above this isn't working.
http://www.turtlehospital.org/blog/?page_id=455

Obviously I'm relatively new here and was happy to be able to contribute my personal experience with the Turtle Hospital, but it is very discouraging to have this kind of a thread ruined by those who can't stop themselves from arguing about the same ideas over and over and over again.

Being compassionate is a fine way to be when it comes to helping the planet's endangered animals. Can we please keep the bile out of a subject such as this one?:)

[rb336]

Someone gave a little "in jest" poke at CCBatson Can we please keep the bile out of a subject such as this one?:)

I will take a mea culpa on that one

I have donated to the turtle hospital since the first time i saw a special on them. (i do the same with a couple of amphibian centers)

[eriedearie]

..and now back to the turtles....

Yes - TTO = Turtle Talk Only on this thread, Please!

[Jimaz]

I wonder if it had been treated there previously? loggerheads are great navigatorsIf it had, I would expect it would have been wearing a tag from the previous visit. Neither the story nor the video mentioned whether or not a tag was found. They didn't mention whether or not they thought it had returned from a previous visit. Inquiring minds want to know! :confused:

It could have been a one-in-a-million coincidence too.

[Kelton]

In my first post on this thread I stated that the workers tag all the turtles they have treated before they release them, so this turtle would not have been one they had seen before. We learned this on our visit to the Turtle Hospital a few months ago. Also, I posted the link to the Turtle Hospital twice where anyone can read all about what they do there to care for the turtles. Seems all the unnecessary political garbage keeps people from following the subject of the thread.

[ccbatson]

ANy of the examples that I posted achieve the supposed ideal of "self governance"?? Not a one. Almost a nice try SM.

[Downriviera]

Thanks for the link to the turtle hospital. I've heard about it in the past, but it was nice to read about what they do there. I will visit next time I'm in the keys. Now for some turtle humor. A turtle got mugged by a gang of snails. The Police officer asked the turtle to describe the incident and the turtle said he didn't remember much because it all happened so fast.

[ccbatson]

Once again SM...you almost get it. Too bad this isn't a game of horseshoes where "almost" matters.

[rb336]

Once again SM...you almost get it. Too bad this isn't a game of horseshoes where "almost" matters.

Quit hijacking threads, Bats, or we'll have Obama send the Seals out :eek:

I saw the clip about the turtle wetsuit. I still really don't understand how the poor critter can steer

[ccbatson]

Actually, the former participant (SM) did the hijacking, I just responded.

[ccbatson]

Oops, it was Bearinbox just above my response to him that took the train off the tracks, not SM...sorry.