Eastwood Memories

[7andkelly]

Eastwood Avenue - what a great place to grow up back in the the 60's ... alleys, vegetable gardens and fruit trees galore!

[a100driver]

Ya, I remember my grandparents' house on Fordham between Chalmers and Gratiot. The big pear tree, the alleys, the cool old house.
Used to love to walk with my grandpa to Gratiot. Also remember when "Flagg Bros." shoes burned down. Loved the neighborhood.

[kellyroad]

Actually lived on Eastwood close to Kelly. The tunnel of elm trees, alleys, brick bungalow and colonial homes. The Flagg brother store had a hugh selection of shoes and boots. Anyone remember the Free Press and News sold on the corner of 7&G on Sunday night. They would come to your car when making a right hand turn from north bound Grationt on to east bound 7 Mi.

[7andkelly]

Olson Electronics ... remember that place? ... I still have a battery tester and a set of walkie talkies with their name stamp. It was better to test tubes there than Revco or Merit's because if you had a bad one, you could replace it right away. I sure helped keep our old Admiral tv set going ... what was I thinking?!!! ... if I'd have just let the thing go, we would have gotten a color set before I graduated high school! Oh, well. Now I have all these stories to tell from when I grew up in black and white.

[Eastburn]

Speaking of Flagg Bros., is anyone here old enough to remember Flagg Flyers from the late 50s? They were an oxford type shoe that open & closed by means of a slider apparatus on the tongue. I had a few pair in white buck.(suede).

[kellyroad]

Way too cool EB, Way too cool

[kellyroad]

Olson Electronics ... remember that place? ... I still have a battery tester and a set of walkie talkies with their name stamp. It was better to test tubes there than Revco or Merit's because if you had a bad one, you could replace it right away. I sure helped keep our old Admiral tv set going ... what was I thinking?!!! ... if I'd have just let the thing go, we would have gotten a color set before I graduated high school! Oh, well. Now I have all these stories to tell from when I grew up in black and white.

7K: I remember very well Olson Electronics (Forham on the west side of Gratiot). Our family purchased our first FM stereo receiver with speakers from there. It was a far cry from the quality of Pecar Electronics. At that time however, just getting FM sterero was a real treat. The system was only 10 watts per channel but it affored a young teenager at that time the ability to listen to the new "underground" stations such as WABX FM and WXYZ (later WRIF) FM. in stereo. Olsons had enough stuff to keep gadget folks or music buffs in the store for hours. I think my dad paid $48 for the system. We hooked up our "record player" and were able to hear all those 78, 45 and 33 RPM records. Only the 33 rpm records (mostly bought at Korvette on 12 and Gratiot) could be heard in stereo. Great memory 7K

[7andkelly]

$48? Sounds like a deal.

I think I sunk most of a grand at Stereo City up the street one day buying my 50 W/C Pioneer AM/FM stereo amplifier and monster speakers, Sony turntable with Audio Technica cartridge, and Sanyo 8-track player / recorder. I soon discovered I should have consulted my Dad about this before I spent all that money. It was a great sound system in it's day ... my decision making at the time - not so good.

[kellyroad]

To all who lived near the Eastwood and Hayes: As long as I can recall there has been a car wash on the south east corner of Eastwood and Hayes. Last time I checked (last year) the car wash was still in business. I don't recall another car wash in existence any longer.
Does anyone know when that car wash opened?
Do you know of another car wash that has been in business longer?

[7andkelly]

I used to love that car wash! I am not surprised it's still in business. Cars used to line up past Saratoga all the way to Faircrest to get into there.

I pretty much like all car washes, except the ones that scratch your car with out of date or uncalibrated equipment, or the ones where they rush the car in back of you so that it bumps your car while someone at the front end is waiting to make that turn out onto the main road.

[7andkelly]

Sure is nice to see the street just as clean and safe as when I left it.

[Detroitej72]

I think the car wash was called Quickie Car Wash, we used to go there because it cost only $1.

My mom worked for years at Supreme Drugs, on the corner of Fordham and Hayes. We would go across the street to eat lunch every Saturday at 7 Mile/ Hayes Lunch, which we always called Vi and Gabe's, after the owner's names. The neighbors would all gather there, and chat about what was going on in the area. It was a great place to live in the 70's through the late 80's.

Anyone ever go to Bono's Party Store? I used to love their pizza and subs, and if I recall, they were related to Sonny Bono, cousins or something. The father always had a story about him when someone asked.

[7andkelly]

I think that's it!

[jcole]

I think the car wash was called Quickie Car Wash, we used to go there because it cost only $1.

My mom worked for years at Supreme Drugs, on the corner of Fordham and Hayes. We would go across the street to eat lunch every Saturday at 7 Mile/ Hayes Lunch, which we always called Vi and Gabe's, after the owner's names. The neighbors would all gather there, and chat about what was going on in the area. It was a great place to live in the 70's through the late 80's.

Anyone ever go to Bono's Party Store? I used to love their pizza and subs, and if I recall, they were related to Sonny Bono, cousins or something. The father always had a story about him when someone asked.
Wasn't Sonny Bono from the area around De La Salle?

[Detroitej72]

Wasn't Sonny Bono from the area around De La Salle?

I think so, I read (or heard) that he used to watch the planes from City Airport as a youth, so you could be correct.

[Fury13]

My mother's family lived in two different houses on Eastwood -- one was between Gratiot and Hayes, and the other is east of Hayes. All told, my grandparents resided on that street between 1939 and 1961.

[Fury13]

My mom worked for years at Supreme Drugs, on the corner of Fordham and Hayes.

My mother also worked at Supreme Drugs, behind the soda fountain. This would have been late '40s, early '50s.

[Detroitej72]

My mother also worked at Supreme Drugs, behind the soda fountain. This would have been late '40s, early '50s.

Fury, my mom worked there in the 70's and early 80's. I never knew they had a soda fountain, where was it located? Did Nate own it back then? My mom worked there until he retired and sold it to Chaldians, who changed the name to Supreme Drug and Liquor Shop. She worked for a time for the pharmicist who rented the space from them.

I went in there recently and discovered that the pharmacy is no longer there and now its just another hood style liquor store.

Another memory, as a youngster, I used to enjoy watching the guppies in his fish aquarium while standing around waiting for my scrips to be filled.

[Tsomyak]

I think so, I read (or heard) that he used to watch the planes from City Airport as a youth, so you could be correct.

I seem to remember reading that at one point he live near Harper, between Chalmers and Connor (Evanston maybe?). The area stuck with me because my dad used to work in the area.

[kellyroad]

I think the car wash was called Quickie Car Wash, we used to go there because it cost only $1.

My mom worked for years at Supreme Drugs, on the corner of Fordham and Hayes. We would go across the street to eat lunch every Saturday at 7 Mile/ Hayes Lunch, which we always called Vi and Gabe's, after the owner's names. The neighbors would all gather there, and chat about what was going on in the area. It was a great place to live in the 70's through the late 80's.

Anyone ever go to Bono's Party Store? I used to love their pizza and subs, and if I recall, they were related to Sonny Bono, cousins or something. The father always had a story about him when someone asked.

D72: I believe Supreme Drugs was there even before Regall or Revco on 7/Hayes
I too don't remember a soda fountain but my recollection of Supreme Drugs was later in the 60s and 70s.
Bono's did have great subs and pizza and till this day I haven't had a better cannoli than theirs....Don't know about the Sonny Bono connection.

Was the 7mi/Hayes Lunch just west of Parakeet Lounge on the south side of 7? Was it a coney island typed of diner at one time?

[zitro]

I think I had heard Sonny Bono's father played Major League baseball, his nickname was Pro-Bono :D

[kellyroad]

I think I had heard Sonny Bono's father played Major League baseball, his nickname was Pro-Bono :D


and I heard something about his wife being very giving.....she would always SHARE.:rolleyes:

[zitro]

and I heard something about his wife being very giving.....she would always SHARE.:rolleyes:


Apparently she never wore her CHASTITY belt ;)

[12468_laing]

you know what they say about Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves...............

[Tsomyak]

Just how long will this beat go on?

[12468_laing]

until we all can say, ......"before you know it, our money's all been spent!"

[kellyroad]

It looks like the Bono connection is far from exhausted, however, let's return to Eastwood Avenue for a moment. What was the name of the restaurant just west of the Parakeet lounge on 7Mi.? I recall that place opening in the 60s and had a parking lot adjacent to it in which many customers to Revco parked there.

Revco and Supreme Drugs both sold bottles of Dr. Good:eek:

[12468_laing]

Was it Ham's Restaurant? I think I was in there once for breakfast.
As Mel Gibson is finding out, "They say our love won't pay the rent".

[Detroitej72]

It looks like the Bono connection is far from exhausted, however, let's return to Eastwood Avenue for a moment. What was the name of the restaurant just west of the Parakeet lounge on 7Mi.? I recall that place opening in the 60s and had a parking lot adjacent to it in which many customers to Revco parked there.

Revco and Supreme Drugs both sold bottles of Dr. Good:eek:

The restaurant was Onasis Coney Island from the 70's on. 7 Mile/ Hayes Lunch was on the same side of Hayes as Supreme's, only across Fordham. It was next door to Casual Cuts Barber Shop, Ray's Shoe Repair, and Little Bill's Saloon.

[Maof]

knew the owners of coney island. he would bring us free "loose burgers" all the time. he then owned (or operated) the parakeet.

[Fury13]

Fury, my mom worked there in the 70's and early 80's. I never knew they had a soda fountain, where was it located? Did Nate own it back then? My mom worked there until he retired and sold it to Chaldians, who changed the name to Supreme Drug and Liquor Shop. She worked for a time for the pharmicist who rented the space from them.

My mom says she worked for Supreme Drugs two or three summers during her high school years. It was owned by two brothers, Nate and Max, who she describes as really nice people and easy to work for. Evidently it was a fun job; the owners let her and a co-worker conjure up all kinds of original concoctions behind the soda fountain.

The soda fountain counter was along the right-hand side wall and was fairly long; it had about eight or ten stools according to my mom.

[kellyroad]

My mom says she worked for Supreme Drugs two or three summers during her high school years. It was owned by two brothers, Nate and Max, who she describes as really nice people and easy to work for. Evidently it was a fun job; the owners let her and a co-worker conjure up all kinds of original concoctions behind the soda fountain.

The soda fountain counter was along the right-hand side wall and was fairly long; it had about eight or ten stools according to my mom.

Fury13: I lived on Morang and Eastwood in the 50s thru 70s and didn't know about the soda fountain at Supreme Drugs. Shows how provincial we can be at times. I do remember my mom saying that Supreme Drugs would send a welcoming basket to new residents in the neighborhood. My folks moved on Morang in 1952.

[kellyroad]

The restaurant was Onasis Coney Island from the 70's on. 7 Mile/ Hayes Lunch was on the same side of Hayes as Supreme's, only across Fordham. It was next door to Casual Cuts Barber Shop, Ray's Shoe Repair, and Little Bill's Saloon.

D72: Onasis Coney Island...Thanks for the memory jog. Were Casual Cuts Barber Shop, Ray's Shoe Repair, and Little Bill's Saloon actually on the east side of Hayes north of Fordham? I vaguely remember the shoe repair but for the life of me the other business are a blank. Were they there before, after, or during the 70s?

[Detroitej72]

D72: Onasis Coney Island...Thanks for the memory jog. Were Casual Cuts Barber Shop, Ray's Shoe Repair, and Little Bill's Saloon actually on the east side of Hayes north of Fordham? I vaguely remember the shoe repair but for the life of me the other business are a blank. Were they there before, after, or during the 70s?

Yes, they were on the east side of Hayes. The buildings still stand, although I don't think any of them are still the same businesses anymore. 7 Mile/ Hayes Lunch was called Rocky's Ham King for awhile, but I think that has now closed as well. Frank's Nursery was right around the corner, which has been since torn down for a stripmall.

[grumpyoldlady]

Last I heard, Al's Car Wash on Morang and Whitehill was still operating, and has been there at least 60 years, probably a lot longer. It was there before I was born in 1949.

[Detroitej72]

Last I heard, Al's Car Wash on Morang and Whitehill was still operating, and has been there at least 60 years, probably a lot longer. It was there before I was born in 1949.

Its still there.

Any more stories? Any more Sonny & Cher lines? Any one still interested in this thread? :confused:

[7andkelly]

Any one still interested in this thread? :confused:


Oh, yes! Just in a bit of busy.

Ahh, the good old days on Eastwood ... a hop, skip and a jump (sometimes literally) from George's Party Time where you could get a pack of Topps for a dime ... Mr. Freezes (frozen coolaid in a skinny plastic pouch) and some Bazooka Joe's, of course ... sent bunches of those comics in for prizes including a ball and strike indicator, 127 film camera, pocket knife, pen ... fun stuff.

The walks thru the alleyways ... stopping to pick fruit and vegetables along the way, and rocks to throw at telephone poles and even sign posts ... no hurry ... no worry ... those were the days my friend.

[Rumblefish]

Who remembers Electro Shack, Hayes at 7 mile, behind Revco and across from Echo Bar?

[Detroitej72]

Who remembers Electro Shack, Hayes at 7 mile, behind Revco and across from Echo Bar?

I got a crystal radio from there when I was a wee little lad. Never did get much in the way of station reception, however. I guess thats why I never became an engineer!:D

[7andkelly]

Who remembers Electro Shack, Hayes at 7 mile, behind Revco and across from Echo Bar?

Yeah, I remember Electro Shack ... cool store ... went to Olson's more often though.

[Rumblefish]

The Echo bar was serving me when I was 15, legal age was 18. I thought that was cool.

[Rumblefish]

And then when I did turn 18 I had the great idea to have just "one drink" from every bar on Morang.
Started at Terrace Lounge, then on to Dex Walter's and on and on. I made it to I-94 and was cryptic by then. Me and my old chum Dave Fielitz made that epic journey.

[7andkelly]

And then when I did turn 18 I had the great idea to have just "one drink" from every bar on Morang.
Started at Terrace Lounge, then on to Dex Walter's and on and on. I made it to I-94 and was cryptic by then. Me and my old chum Dave Fielitz made that epic journey.

The Paper Station was my old haunt ... walked over there half the time. They had great ground rounds, and those giant pitchers of Miller's for $3.00. Jay and John were there, and they and their barmaids always knew your name.

The bar's called Dunn Inn now, and I was told by the lady behind the bar last year the building was still owned by Jay. The countertops and tables are the same only older ... walking in there was somewhat like opening up a time capsule. For all I know, some of the regulars sitting at the bar are the same ones from 30 years ago ... might explain the name change, unfortunately.

[Tsomyak]

And then when I did turn 18 I had the great idea to have just "one drink" from every bar on Morang.
Started at Terrace Lounge, then on to Dex Walter's and on and on. I made it to I-94 and was cryptic by then. Me and my old chum Dave Fielitz made that epic journey.

His last name was Fielitz? Really??? Dang, all those years I thought it was Felix, like the cat.

[zitro]

The bar's called Dunn Inn now,

might explain the name change, unfortunately.


Good one 7!!! CMAO!!

[7andkelly]

Thanks, Z. Speaking of being done in, a few months ago my wife and I went to the place that used to be called Tastees across the street from Dunn Inn just north of the corner of 7 and Kelly, a.k.a. Moross and Kelly for you purists, KR. That place is another time capsule, except you can hear it screaming to be renovated. The only money invested in that poor depleted cash cow in the past 30 years was the bullet proof glass protecting the grill area and ordering counter. We sure felt secure eating our meals in our booth knowing it was possible one of the workers in the safe zone might call for help if we needed it.

Good burgers, but the fries were a little too salty, IMO.

[Rumblefish]

Lets not forget The Pointe Athletic Club, as if it had anything to do with the Pointes or athleticism...
well there was weight lifting involved, 12 ounces at a time.


Tsom: yep it was Fielitz

[kellyroad]

Who remembers Electro Shack, Hayes at 7 mile, behind Revco and across from Echo Bar?

Thanks Rumblefish and Detroit72 for naming the "Electro Shack" behind Revco. Couldn't remember the name of that place for the life of me. Yes, that was the place to get one's crystal set equipement.

[7andkelly]

Welcome back, KR. I was just thinking this thread on the new forum could sure use some of your quality photos.

[Detroitej72]

Thanks, Z. Speaking of being done in, a few months ago my wife and I went to the place that used to be called Tastees across the street from Dunn Inn just north of the corner of 7 and Kelly, a.k.a. Moross and Kelly for you purists, KR. That place is another time capsule, except you can hear it screaming to be renovated. The only money invested in that poor depleted cash cow in the past 30 years was the bullet proof glass protecting the grill area and ordering counter. We sure felt secure eating our meals in our booth knowing it was possible one of the workers in the safe zone might call for help if we needed it.

Good burgers, but the fries were a little too salty, IMO.

I used to play video games there when I was too young to drive. My friends and I also like the fact we could feast on burgers for the chump change in our pockets.

I also have many fond memories of birthday parties at Little Ceasers, back when they were a full service pizzaria, complete with pinball machines.

[EMG]

I actually grew up on Nottingham close to the Kavan's on Morang, but certainly was familiar with Eastwood as it wasn't that far from me. We would always get our fresh Christmas tree - and related trimmings - from Frank's Nursery on the SE corner of 7 & Hayes, and also frequently shopped at Revco's Drugs across the street from there.

My favorite was later when the frozen custard place opened across 7 mile from Frank's - we went there frequently too.

Of course, there was another Eastwood just a mile north in Harper Woods....important not to get the two confused! :)

Just before leaving Michigan for good in early 2001, I took several pictures of the local neighborhoods including one of the building which now occupies the former Frank's Nursery site at 7 and Hayes. You Eastwood residents may also enjoy this other one I took of Brock near the Columbus School area.

Oh...and what the heck, here's one of Linnhurst looking west from Brock toward Hayes. Just three blocks south of Eastwood!

Edit - hm...where did my attachments go. Stand by....

[EMG]

OK, I'm new and had just forgotten to click Upload before, I think. Here are the pictures I was talking about.
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[zitro]

OK, I'm new and had just forgotten to click Upload before, I think. Here are the pictures I was talking about.


I can almost see Fantasy from here :D

[EMG]

And then when I did turn 18 I had the great idea to have just "one drink" from every bar on Morang.
Started at Terrace Lounge, then on to Dex Walter's and on and on. I made it to I-94 and was cryptic by then. Me and my old chum Dave Fielitz made that epic journey.

I'm practically a teetotaler myself and always was, but I did grow up in the Morang area and so did frequently walk or drive past Dex Walters. I remember the rest of the sign said "Where Friends Meet."

I've attached a 2001 picture I took from eastbound Morang approaching Kelly. The first building on the right is where Chatham's grocery store used to be back in the day, and beyond that, you may be able to make out the Pagoda's Chop Suey building. Unfortunately you can't see Dex Walter's in the picture, but it would have been a few blocks down on the left.
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[jcole]

My brother lived on Linnhurst at McCrary when he was first married. On the other thread I mentioned that I had a teacher who went to St. Brendan's. She also lived on Nottingham. Small world.

[EMG]

My brother lived on Linnhurst at McCrary when he was first married. On the other thread I mentioned that I had a teacher who went to St. Brendan's. She also lived on Nottingham. Small world.

Well, here then are a couple of pictures from closer to your brother's old neighborhood. They're both from the Grover and Spring Garden corner, from different angles. The wooded cemetery in that area was always such a nice diversion from the bare expanses of treeless streets once Dutch Elm Disease set in.
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[jcole]

Actually, Linnhurst and McCrary is closer to the Linnhurst Brock to Hayes area than the cemetary behind Assumption Grotto. McCrary is just two blocks west of Hayes.

[Detroitej72]

Do they still have that shrine behind Assumption Grotto where people left crutches and other belongings after being healed of their sicknesses? I always found that place to be rather comforting and tranquil.

[EMG]

Assumption Grotto! I had forgotten the name of it!

I think I remember a shrine there - but I hadn't heard about people leaving crutches there.

[EMG]

Actually, Linnhurst and McCrary is closer to the Linnhurst Brock to Hayes area than the cemetary behind Assumption Grotto. McCrary is just two blocks west of Hayes.

Yes, now that I think about it you're right. It's just that the whole area was getting pretty seedy at the time and the further west I went from my east-of-Kelly neighborhood, the less safe I felt so it just seemed that much further away I guess. Anything west of Hayes was definitely "an adventure" by the time I left. But actually I think it was MacCrary, with an extra A in there. I also remember there was some sort of corner store on the corner of MacCrary and Spring Garden.

Whenever I did venture out that way I tended to favor Spring Garden. The corner, the slight jog in MacCrary, and the Grotto just made for more variety compared to some of the more mundane "regular" streets in the area.

[Maxine1958]

Do they still have that shrine behind Assumption Grotto where people left crutches and other belongings after being healed of their sicknesses? I always found that place to be rather comforting and tranquil.

Yes, the Shrine is still there. I've attended many a mass there. It is a very special place.

[7andkelly]

Yes, the Shrine is still there. I've attended many a mass there. It is a very special place.

It is a beautiful church...had our Baccalaureate Mass there.

[kellyroad]

About 40 years ago, the Assumption Grotto Cemetery was the place where some of the Detroit News paper boys would cruise around if the paper were late being delivered to the Celestine and Mapleridge paper station. Eastwood resident, 7_and_Kelly_Kid's (Dave V) (May he rest in peace), story of how his older brother would take him to Assumption Grotto Cemetery after an episode of Twilight Zone still brings a smile.

[kellyroad]

1965 Eastwood winter scene loolking west toward Rex. Elm trees still around
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[kellyroad]

Heilmann article
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2009905170662

Ernie didn't mention that Heilmann Park was named for the outstanding baseball player and announcer shortly after Heilmann's death

[grumpyoldlady]

Regarding Dex Walter bar....it was on Morang between Wayburn and Lansdowne. There was a "party" store right next door. Various names..one of which was "Little Joe's". Used to walk up the alley from my back yard to go there for stuff for my mom. Back then, even little kids could buy cigarettes for their parents. Penny candy cost a penny or 2/penny. There were 5 cent bags of potato chips, and the big cooler filled with icy water where you could pick your cold pop from the assortment it contained.

[EastsideAl]

My grandmother used to pay euchre at that bar.

[EMG]

Kellyroad - thanks for posting that 1965 Eastwood picture - I'm downloading it to add to my files! :)

If it was 1965, no doubt it was probably taken after the famous February 1965 blizzard. (I was only three years old at the time so don't have any real memories of it but I have sure heard about it).

[jcole]

Kellyroad - thanks for posting that 1965 Eastwood picture - I'm downloading it to add to my files! :)

If it was 1965, no doubt it was probably taken after the famous February 1965 blizzard. (I was only three years old at the time so don't have any real memories of it but I have sure heard about it).
I think the 'Blizzard of '65' was one of the few times St. Jude's School ever had a snow day.
God I feel old

[12468_laing]

hey gang, am in Staunton, VA tonight and getting to Annapolis tomorrow - my sons graduation and commissioning will be Friday - festivities all week. Saw the mention about Dex Walter - went there many time with my dad, and yes, the party store next door as well as one on the next block changed hands many times. one of them, can't remember which was run by a guy who used to "sample the wares" in the back room, but seemed to have a handle on how to run the store. he planted a tomato plant in front of the store to make a point that the neighborhood kids weren't bad - and it did grow all through the year and he used to hand out tomatoes. the last wedding anniversary of my parents when dad was still working had him out of town. took my mom to dex walter's to celebrate - was truly a neighborhood place. great times, great memories.

[Eastburn]

Congrats on your son graduating from the Academy, Laing. God bless him.

[kellyroad]

Laing: I'll second Eastburn's congrats and blessing to you and your son.

[kellyroad]

Trivia: There was a drug store located on Kelly and Spring Garden across the street from Denby's driver's ed. course. A Burger King is now or was located in that area after the drug store closed. WHAT WAS THE NAME OF THAT DRUG STORE? I'm pretty sure of the name but not 100%. I guess I could research old St. Jude Calendar adds but that would take away some of the fun:rolleyes:

[Tsomyak]

Regarding Dex Walter bar....it was on Morang between Wayburn and Lansdowne. There was a "party" store right next door. Various names..one of which was "Little Joe's". Used to walk up the alley from my back yard to go there for stuff for my mom. Back then, even little kids could buy cigarettes for their parents. Penny candy cost a penny or 2/penny. There were 5 cent bags of potato chips, and the big cooler filled with icy water where you could pick your cold pop from the assortment it contained.


Thank you! I've been trying to remember the name of Little Joe's for months. I lived on Lansdowne, between Moross and Casino, and I remember walking up there for penny candy as well. Were you on Lansdowne or Wayburn?

[grumpyoldlady]

I lived on Wayburn between Morang and Casino...3 houses off the alley that ran behind Little Joes and Dex Walter.

A drug store on Kelly and Spring Garden? I don't remember anything like that there.

[7andkelly]

Eastwood - Four seasons of wonder!

[Detroitej72]

Cool pics. Thanks for sharing.

Was that you as a wee little lad?

[7andkelly]

Cool pics. Thanks for sharing.

Was that you as a wee little lad?

...and such a short time ago it was.

[kellyroad]

...and such a short time ago it was.
The tunnel of elm trees bring back bitter sweet memories don't they?

[zitro]

The tunnel of elm trees bring back bitter sweet memories don't they?


Cool pics 7 and we have been wondering all of this time if you truly existed.

On my block there was one small opening in the canopy of elms which if I placed it right I could bounce my Superball off the street right up into the opening and catch it. If it hit a branch and got redirected it was a mad scamble to try and catch if before htting a neighbors car.

Which reminds me cfg. You were supposed to do the Superball experiment down that hallway in the lower church and film it.

[7andkelly]

Cool pics 7 and we have been wondering all of this time if you truly existed.

On my block there was one small opening in the canopy of elms which if I placed it right I could bounce my Superball off the street right up into the opening and catch it. If it hit a branch and got redirected it was a made scamble to try and catch if before htting a neighbors car.

Which reminds me cfg. You were supposed to do the Superball experiment down that hallway in the lower church and film it.

Tennis balls were great for curb ball, and Redmond curbs were much better for the game than Eastwood ones. Once in a while I would load up the bases with some cheap singles, and then go for the grand slam. I'm sure they were on to my intention when I announced, "The Gater is up to bat".

[7andkelly]

If it hit a branch and got redirected it was a made scamble to try and catch if before htting a neighbors car.

I can picture that.

Those days, we used to hit people's cars all the time with all kinds of stuff, but it didn't matter because they actually used real metal back then, and it was thick as armor.

[zitro]

Tennis balls were great for curb ball, and Redmond curbs were much better for the game than Eastwood ones. Once in a while I would load up the bases with some cheap singles, and then go for the grand slam. I'm sure they were on to my intention when I announced, "The Gater is up to bat".


Tennis balls were one of those things we could never stand to pay for so we would scavenge around outside the fence of the tennis courts at Heilman to find the "lost one" laying around so we could play. Curb ball was great because you didn't worry about having to scrounge a bunch of guys to play.

Regular pick up games of hardball could be done with 4 or 5 guys per side. Anything hit to the right side of 2nd base was out. Picthers mound was out for ground balls. Sometimes you'd have to share a catcher is there was an odd amount of guys.

[kellyroad]

Tennis balls were great for curb ball, and Redmond curbs were much better for the game than Eastwood ones. Once in a while I would load up the bases with some cheap singles, and then go for the grand slam. I'm sure they were on to my intention when I announced, "The Gater is up to bat".

7: Sorry man, got to disagree. The only difference between the Redmond and Eastwood curbs is that Redmond had more available free space. We have to agree however that Eastwood curb ball players ruled over Saratoga ball players (It's to bad they had squared off curbs:D). The best curb balls were the orange rubber ones obtained for 10 cents at the novelty shop on Kelly near Merit Drugs.

[7andkelly]

7: Sorry man, got to disagree. The only difference between the Redmond and Eastwood curbs is that Redmond had more available free space. We have to agree however that Eastwood curb ball players ruled over Saratoga ball players (It's to bad they had squared off curbs:D). The best curb balls were the orange rubber ones obtained for 10 cents at the novelty shop on Kelly near Merit Drugs.

At least the Saratoga kids weren't as bad as the ones from Fordham or Mapleridge west of Hayes.

Orange rubber balls were better than tennis balls for curb ball, but not every kid with a Robert Hall gaspipe rack Sunday suit in his closet had one of those at the ready ... especially if was batted into someone's garden backyard off the blacktop.

And not only are Redmond curbs more suitably rounded for curb ball, but the street itself is segmented in four sections curb-to-curb leaving natural dividing lines for singles, doubles, triples and home runs.

I will agree to disagree on this one, KR.

[kellyroad]

And not only are Redmond curbs more suitably rounded for curb ball, but the street itself is segmented in four sections curb-to-curb leaving natural dividing lines for singles, doubles, triples and home runs.

I will agree to disagree on this one, KR.[/quote]

The Eastwood curb ball courts aslo had sections for singles, doubles, triples, and homeruns.

[EMG]

7 and Kelly, that picture of you in the sport coat - was it your First Communion day? I ask because it reminds me an awful lot of a very similar picture of a young tyke who bore the initials EMG on HIS special day!!!

[7andkelly]

7 and Kelly, that picture of you in the sport coat - was it your First Communion day? I ask because it reminds me an awful lot of a very similar picture of a young tyke who bore the initials EMG on HIS special day!!!

While I can neither confirm nor deny the subject of the picture(s):), I can attest this one is authentic Eastwood, and the white tie gives this away as a First Holy Communion day ensemble.

[jcole]

While I can neither confirm nor deny the subject of the picture(s):), I can attest this one is authentic Eastwood, and the white tie gives this away as a First Holy Communion day ensemble.
Well, now I know who to look for at Two Kahuna's in Romeo.

[Eastburn]

I bet he hasn't changed a bit. Neither have I. Just check some of my FB pix for proof.

[jcole]

I bet he hasn't changed a bit. Neither have I. Just check some of my FB pix for proof.
Hey, I still look JUST like my FB pic. At least to those who haven't seen me in a long time. Or met me yet.

[Eastburn]

I put a 20 year old picture up there for a while & no one even noticed.

[7andkelly]

Well, now I know who to look for at Two Kahuna's in Romeo.

I'm guessing if a person walked into Kahuna's wearing that jacket and white tie, they would definitely be standing out...outside that is. That other kid in the leaf pile might be in there, though, scarfing down a ground round a frosty root beer.

[zitro]

I put a 20 year old picture up there for a while & no one even noticed.


Probably because twenty years ago you were old already:D

[Eastburn]

Ouch...............................

[EMG]

I've added several additional pictures of the St. Jude / Heilmann area in the St. Jude Nostalgia thread. Check 'em out!

http://www.detroityes.com/mb/showthread.php?t=60&page=10

[7andkelly]

I've added several additional pictures of the St. Jude / Heilmann area in the St. Jude Nostalgia thread. Check 'em out!

http://www.detroityes.com/mb/showthread.php?t=60&page=10

Saw those over there. Great thread...great pictures.

[7andkelly]

This used to be Sinclair Gas Station on Kelly Rd. just inside Harper Woods back in the 60s. I remember them giving out a dinosaur bank and dinosaur bath soap.

[zitro]

This used to be Sinclair Gas Station on Kelly Rd. just inside Harper Woods back in the 60s. I remember them giving out a dinosaur bank and dinosaur bath soap.


Kool pic. I remember the soap

[7andkelly]

Candlelite Bar, Sweetheart Bakery, and Little Caesar's are still in business!

[7andkelly]

This is the official corner of 7 and Kelly (I have no idea why the 7 Mile Rd. sign is missing). Milt's Gourmet Barbeque was Aldo's, I think, and just beyond that is Dunn's Inn which was Jay's Paper Station, which was The Paper Station which was Star Bar. The Autozone used to be Calcaterra Funeral Home which used to be a grocery store before my time. The dental office is still in business. My great painless dentist, Dr. Shipko, retired in the late 70's.

Papa's Coney Island used to be Tastee's which used to be the Tastee Freeze. When they added seating to the Tastee Freeze, they did not tear down the old building like they would today, but instead built a dining area and bathrooms around it. From what I could see last year when I was there, the furniture looks the same, only older. Too bad they thought it necessary to put in the bullet proof glass. The food was good, though, and the view of my old haunt from the windowed walls was spectacular!

[7andkelly]

Kool pic. I remember the soap

I remember using a screwdriver to pry open a bigger hole in that bank one day. I wish I still had that, and those two Colonial Savings Bank banks that opened up with a key. Still have the keys...and the screwdriver.

[Dave70]

That shop just to the left of the dentist's office used to be Amato Pied Piper Music, where I took my first guitar lessons. :)

[jcole]

That shop just to the left of the dentist's office used to be Amato Pied Piper Music, where I took my first guitar lessons. :)
I took piano lessons there briefly, and spent a butt load of money on music that I never did learn to play. Was Famous Pizza in that same shop, or next to it toward Rosewood Bar?

[EMG]

Wow! Thanks for the new pictures, 7andKelly!

Yes, Milt's was Aldo's. I remember Aldo's. I ate there with my family maybe once or twice...but it was not someplace I liked to go because I remember long lines and long waits for the food. Then as well as now, I never did appreciate the point of spending 2 hours waiting around for something that could be finished in 10 minutes.

I also remember Amato's music well, and, in fact, I also rented - and then applied the rental towards purchase of - a guitar from there. However, I took my lessons elsewhere, because the owner of Amato's was a heavy smoker and there was no way I was going to spend one second more in that store than I absolutely had to to get my supplies and run out gasping for breath.

It took me a minute to recognize the pictures with the AutoZone in them. I hadn't read to the end of your message - and I kept thinking those pictures must have been additional shots from southbound Kelly before realizing they were westbound 7 mile taken from Kelly. When I was last there, AutoZone wasn't there; it was still Calcaterra's. I did finally recognize the angle when I saw the snippet of St. Jude's way in the background at the right of the fourth picture.

My, my, what does it tell us when things are so bad that even an UNDERTAKER goes out of business? I never would have believed.

[EMG]

Also thanks for the Sweetheart Bakery / Little Ceasars shot. For all the pictures I did take of Kelly, I didn't have that angle. I (think) I remember when they BUILT that Little Caesars - I think it was in the very early 80's, if not actually 1980 indeed! I can't remember what was there before then - probably a gas station....?

[zitro]

That shop just to the left of the dentist's office used to be Amato Pied Piper Music, where I took my first guitar lessons. :)


As we discussed beofre on the old thread, Amato's was originally called the Treble Clef when it first opened in the mid 60's

[zitro]

Wow! Thanks for the new pictures, 7andKelly!

Yes, Milt's was Aldo's. I remember Aldo's. I ate there with my family maybe once or twice...but it was not someplace I liked to go because I remember long lines and long waits for the food. Then as well as now, I never did appreciate the point of spending 2 hours waiting around for something that could be finished in 10 minutes.

I also remember Amato's music well, and, in fact, I also rented - and then applied the rental towards purchase of - a guitar from there. However, I took my lessons elsewhere, because the owner of Amato's was a heavy smoker and there was no way I was going to spend one second more in that store than I absolutely had to to get my supplies and run out gasping for breath.

It took me a minute to recognize the pictures with the AutoZone in them. I hadn't read to the end of your message - and I kept thinking those pictures must have been additional shots from southbound Kelly before realizing they were westbound 7 mile taken from Kelly. When I was last there, AutoZone wasn't there; it was still Calcaterra's. I did finally recognize the angle when I saw the snippet of St. Jude's way in the background at the right of the fourth picture.

My, my, what does it tell us when things are so bad that even an UNDERTAKER goes out of business? I never would have believed.

I need clarification on something. Are we saying that Milt's is the corner business, I can't see it clearly from that pic. If not than my point is mute. If we are saying that, my recal of the corner business was that it was a dry cleaners, which I've had problems remebering the name other for some reason I think it was called Sanders which always confused me because I never knew if it was tied in with the confectioner

[7andkelly]

I need clarification on something. Are we saying that Milt's is the corner business, I can't see it clearly from that pic. If not than my point is mute. If we are saying that, my recal of the corner business was that it was a dry cleaners, which I've had problems remebering the name other for some reason I think it was called Sanders which always confused me because I never knew if it was tied in with the confectioner

It think it may be both. Milt's address is 19143, and it butts up against Dunn's Inn.

[edgewood]

I remember Little Ceasars from the early 70's - i wish they could learn somehow to make their pizza taste like that again.

[jcole]

The corner business was Sander's Dry Cleaner, and where the boards are in the pic were windows where you could watch the clothes move around the conveyer. God, I had a boring life.

[zitro]

God, I had a boring life.


But it's better now right?

[zitro]

I remember Little Ceasars from the early 70's - i wish they could learn somehow to make their pizza taste like that again.


Welcome edgewood are you a St. Jude grad or just from the area and what timeframe?

[edgewood]

No - I know St Jude well though, east side.

I lived near Gunston west of Gratiot for a time when I was a child - does not look the same these days

[zitro]

No - I know St Jude well though, east side.

I lived near Gunston west of Gratiot for a time when I was a child - does not look the same these days


Nothing does, but Welcome!

[jcole]

But it's better now right?
Hah!......

[Tsomyak]

This used to be Sinclair Gas Station on Kelly Rd. just inside Harper Woods back in the 60s. I remember them giving out a dinosaur bank and dinosaur bath soap.

And a fine establishment the current proprietor has as well! This is my brother's business. He's been there quite a while, close to 20 years now I'm guessing.

I have fond memories of the Sinclair station as well. Does anyone remember the carnivals they used to have in the Eastland parking lot? Sinclair had an exhibit about dinosaurs as I remember. They had a coin operated machine that made you your very own plastic dinosaur there on the spot. Some kind of plastic injection molding machine. I remember the dinosaur was still hot when it came out. I love the smell of hot plastic in the morning. :)

[zitro]

And a fine establishment the current proprietor has as well! This is my brother's business. He's been there quite a while, close to 20 years now I'm guessing.

I have fond memories of the Sinclair station as well. Does anyone remember the carnivals they used to have in the Eastland parking lot? Sinclair had an exhibit about dinosaurs as I remember. They had a coin operated machine that made you your very own plastic dinosaur there on the spot. Some kind of plastic injection molding machine. I remember the dinosaur was still hot when it came out. I love the smell of hot plastic in the morning. :)

Was that smell like the Creepy People smell? I used to love that smell.

Oooohh that smell. Can't you smell that smell?

[zitro]

Does anyone know what the status of the Credit Union building is? Also, I know when they turned into the Northeast Catholic Credit Union they had a branch on Crocker in Harrison Twp. Is that branch still there or did the credit union combined into another and know is no longer associated with St. Jude?

[jcole]

There are still Sinclair's out west. These are a couple pics from Wyoming a couple years ago
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[zitro]

There are still Sinclair's out west. These are a couple pics from Wyoming a couple years ago
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Kool pics JC. We have a Sinclair in Ames, I'll have to check it out if they have anything other than the sign.

[jcole]

Obviously my daughter there.

[zitro]

Obviously my daughter there.


Obviously!

Does anyone know if the Sinclair dinosaur had a name?

[jcole]

Dino......

[7andkelly]

[quote=Tsomyak;24243]And a fine establishment the current proprietor has as well! This is my brother's business.[quote]

I did not know that. Ask him to check the storerooms for some of those neat giveaway items.:)

[7andkelly]

Dino......

That's what I remember.

[kellyroad]

Does anyone know if the Sinclair dinosaur had a name?

Dino?????? At least that's what my dad called it. Wasn't that Fred Flinstone's pet's name? Which came first Hanna-Barbera's dino or Sinclair's dino? Inquiring minds want to know. Discuss....

[jcole]

From the Sinclair Oil website:

A series of advertisements in 104 newspapers and five national magazines feature a dozen of the strange dinosaurs, from hideous-fanged tyrannosaurus rex and three-horned triceratops, to the unaggressive, vegetarian apatosaurus (brontosaurus), a 40-ton lizard with neck and tail each 30 feet long. The campaign -- confined entirely to Wellsville oils -- was a great success. The curiosity value of it was tremendous.

But there was a significant and unexpected windfall. One of the dinosaurs generated a remarkable popular appeal, in fact was a real glamour boy: peace-loving but massive apatosaurus. The public equated him with power, endurance and stamina, the prime qualities of Sinclair products.

Without any particular promotion, the public accepted the apatosaurus affectionately as Sinclair's "Dino." He's been Dino ever since.

http://www.sinclairoil.com/history/historys_p1.htm

[Tsomyak]

I always appreciated the fact that the family name in the TV series Dinosaurs was Sinclair.

[kellyroad]

Thanks JC, I know have enough material for my gas station/ stone age cartooon pet name thesis.:cool:

[jcole]

You can even do a contrast and compare feature in that thesis.

[zitro]

Dino......


That's what I was thinking but that's the same name as the Flintstones pet so I wasn't sure

[7andkelly]

More Milt's plus Dunn's Inn, at the SE corner of 7 and Kelly:

[7andkelly]

Inside Candlelite Lounge...still going strong:

[7andkelly]

Looking west down the now closed:( alley servicing Eastwood and Fordham between Redmond and the alley servicing Kelly Rd. (looks like I would need my old fence hopping skills for that:D):

[7andkelly]

This is the back of what used to be my favorite store, George's Party Time, a.k.a., the beer store. I have a better picture of the front of the store somewhere, and I believe it may still be open. I used to walk over here through that now closed alley all the time for 10 cent packs of Topps Baseball Cards, hand fulls of Bazooka Joe Bubblegum, Hershey Bars, and Mr. Freezes (frozen Koolaid in a clear plastic tube).

[7andkelly]

Does anyone know what the status of the Credit Union building is? Also, I know when they turned into the Northeast Catholic Credit Union they had a branch on Crocker in Harrison Twp. Is that branch still there or did the credit union combined into another and know is no longer associated with St. Jude?

I believe the building at the corner of 7 Mile Rd. and Redmond is now vacant. Northeast Catholic Credit Union is now Christian Financial Credit Union, and some of their employees and board members are from the old St. Jude CU office.

[zitro]

I believe the building at the corner of 7 Mile Rd. and Redmond is now vacant. Northeast Catholic Credit Union is now Christian Financial Credit Union, and some of their employees and board members are from the old St. Jude CU office.


Thanks 7. Since I was a northsider and would only frequent Georges on occasion I never felt priveligged enough to go through the back door. Of course if Franks on Boulder had a back door I'm sure I would have used it

[7andkelly]

I never felt priveligged enough to go through the back door.

I don't know that he actually "let" me in through the back door.

[7andkelly]

Eastwood (east of Hayes) doesn't look half bad in this home video from 2008.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ud8YhjSwaU

[Detroitej72]

I remember the corner part of Milt's used to be Kelly Paint, in the 80's until Milt bought the property several years back.

I used to love the fish and chips at Jay's Paper Station. Then Jay took over Aldo's and opened Patrick Jays. I believe he was partners with the owner(Patrick?) of the old Pirate's Cove on Mack.

I had my daughter's communion party at PJ's, I always thought the food was good, wonder why they closed?

[7andkelly]

This next video is more than a little disturbing, and not just because I shot it with an Olympus 100 pocket camera instead of my Sony digital video cam.

It starts out going west, I believe, on Fordham, west of Hayes, toward Gratiot, then 7 Mile east to Chalmers, southbound to Linnhurst, east to Queen, north to Eastwood, east ending at Hayes where you can see the still operational car wash across the street.

There is a smattering of hope in some well kept homes and new construction, but those are few and far between, IMO, in amongst hundreds and hundreds of vacant lots, and tattered, sometimes burnt out homes which are literally shells of their former states. It is eerie ... surreal even. To me, it's like riding through a war zone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfi_kVUPikc

[EMG]

WOW. I watched both videos, and even from 2001 I remember "west of Hayes" being bad, but now it's even far worse than I remember it being then.

Glad to see though that the East of Hayes area still actually looks relatively unchanged from the way I remember it.

[EMG]

I remember the corner part of Milt's used to be Kelly Paint, in the 80's until Milt bought the property several years back.

I used to love the fish and chips at Jay's Paper Station. Then Jay took over Aldo's and opened Patrick Jays. I believe he was partners with the owner(Patrick?) of the old Pirate's Cove on Mack.

I had my daughter's communion party at PJ's, I always thought the food was good, wonder why they closed?

My favorite fish and chips place used to be Milroy's on Kelly between Whittier and Yorkshire, right across Kelly from Guardian Angels. My grandfather would bring home carryout for lunch for us every Friday, and sometimes I'd go with him to pick it up. That place used to really draw a crowd! This was back in the late 60's and early 70's. Friday meat for Catholics had already been "legalized" by then, but many Catholics still followed the old teachings and made a point of having fish on Fridays. Same at our house - if it wasn't fish it was potato pierogies (POLISH Catholic family I came from!). And actually I preferred those Friday items to most things we had on the other days of the week!

By the '80s Milroys had closed down and was replaced with a Detroit Police Mini-Station. Then I think it just went abandoned.

Obviously Catholic population had a lot to do with keeping those fish and chip places in business.

[EMG]

This is the back of what used to be my favorite store, George's Party Time, a.k.a., the beer store. I have a better picture of the front of the store somewhere, and I believe it may still be open. I used to walk over here through that now closed alley all the time for 10 cent packs of Topps Baseball Cards, hand fulls of Bazooka Joe Bubblegum, Hershey Bars, and Mr. Freezes (frozen Koolaid in a clear plastic tube).

So exactly where was that building? My guess is somewhere along the east side of Hayes, within a few blocks south of 7 mile, from the looks of it. Am I right?

[EMG]

Dino......

This reminds me of another favorite place, Dino's Pizza, which was located in a strip mall right next to Lawson's party store along the south side of Whittier between Laing and Duchess.

I guess the pizza wasn't anything that special relative to other pizzas - just basic cheese and pepperoni, but it was the first and only pizza I regularly had as a young child so it sticks out in my memory.

[EMG]

Kool pics JC. We have a Sinclair in Ames, I'll have to check it out if they have anything other than the sign.

When I was growing up in the mid-60s there used to be a Sinclair station at the southeast corner of Lakepoint and Morang. Later it became replaced (like all Detroit Sinclair stations) by Arco.

In the early 80's, long after Sinclair had vanished from the Detroit scene, I once found an old, abandoned Sinclair station with the sign still intact, in the itty-bitty town of Lamb, Michigan, located in the Thumb. You'd have to have Google Earth and/or a GPS to find it.

I did learn later that there are indeed still Sinclair stations in western states. As of 1999 when I took the trip, I found one along I-94 in Bismark, North Dakota, and I also a couple of years ago filled up at one in (I believe) Henderson, Nevada (near Las Vegas). So they are still around.

[Detroitej72]

This reminds me of another favorite place, Dino's Pizza, which was located in a strip mall right next to Lawson's party store along the south side of Whittier between Laing and Duchess.

I guess the pizza wasn't anything that special relative to other pizzas - just basic cheese and pepperoni, but it was the first and only pizza I regularly had as a young child so it sticks out in my memory.

I used to love their pizza back in the day. Uncle Paul's, on Mack in Grosse Pointe Woods reminds me of Dino's, and I try to get one every now and then when I'm in the area visiting relatives.

[EMG]

I used to love their pizza back in the day. Uncle Paul's, on Mack in Grosse Pointe Woods reminds me of Dino's, and I try to get one every now and then when I'm in the area visiting relatives.

Wow! I actually lived right around the corner and within about 5 or 6 houses of Uncle Paul's for TWELVE YEARS from '90 to '02 and if I tried their pizza at all - and I'm sure I must have at least once - it was only once. I became a devoted fan of Hungry Howie's right next door. :D

Since we're now on the subject of favorite old restaurants, another couple favorites of mine were two hamburger places on Harper between Morang and Cadieux: Daly's and Genevas. Dalyburgers had a wonderful special sauce, and Geneva's was famous for the 5 sliders for $1.98 (or later $2.98). Though come to think of it it's a good thing I got out of that habit well before I was out of my 20's.

Here's a picture of the site as of 2001: Genevas was (maybe still is) there; and the site that used to be Daly's (which afterwards temporarily became a Greek restaurant) was (maybe still is) Tubby's.

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Several years after Daly's from Harper closed down, I learned that there was still a Daly's or two operating on the west side - I believe one was on Plymouth Road and my wife and I used to go there once in a while. The Dalyburgers were just like I remembered them.

[Fury13]

7 and Kelly, thanks for that video. It shows the vacant lot on the corner of Eastwood and Queen, which is where the house that my mom grew up in once stood. What a bombed-out area, and dangerous as hell now.

[a100driver]

WOW, that's an interesting video 7 and Kelly kid. The visit on Linnhurst showed my other Grandparents' house on Linnhurst just before McCrarry. I couldn't believe the new houses. Then, a vacant lot, then 2 boarded up houses and my Grandparents' house was the second boarded up house. Surprised it's still standing. Great but depressing video. You must have balls of steel to drive down those streets.

[zitro]

Wow! I actually lived right around the corner and within about 5 or 6 houses of Uncle Paul's for TWELVE YEARS from '90 to '02 and if I tried their pizza at all - and I'm sure I must have at least once - it was only once. I became a devoted fan of Hungry Howie's right next door. :D

Since we're now on the subject of favorite old restaurants, another couple favorites of mine were two hamburger places on Harper between Morang and Cadieux: Daly's and Genevas. Dalyburgers had a wonderful special sauce, and Geneva's was famous for the 5 sliders for $1.98 (or later $2.98). Though come to think of it it's a good thing I got out of that habit well before I was out of my 20's.

Here's a picture of the site as of 2001: Genevas was (maybe still is) there; and the site that used to be Daly's (which afterwards temporarily became a Greek restaurant) was (maybe still is) Tubby's.

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Several years after Daly's from Harper closed down, I learned that there was still a Daly's or two operating on the west side - I believe one was on Plymouth Road and my wife and I used to go there once in a while. The Dalyburgers were just like I remembered them.


Geneva's was a slider I didn't discover until I moved into my own apartment on Warren and Chalmers, but IMO were some of the best around.

[7andkelly]

WOW, that's an interesting video 7 and Kelly kid. The visit on Linnhurst showed my other Grandparents' house on Linnhurst just before McCrarry. I couldn't believe the new houses. Then, a vacant lot, then 2 boarded up houses and my Grandparents' house was the second boarded up house. Surprised it's still standing. Great but depressing video. You must have balls of steel to drive down those streets.

Actually, 7_and_Kelly_Kid passed away last year. May God rest his dear soul. He had started the original Eastwood Memories thread on the old Discuss Detroit forum, and was an important contributor to the Morang, Heilmann, Denby and St. Jude threads as well. It was coincidental I selected a similar identity when I signed up in April of 2008.

[7andkelly]

Several years after Daly's from Harper closed down, I learned that there was still a Daly's or two operating on the west side - I believe one was on Plymouth Road and my wife and I used to go there once in a while. The Dalyburgers were just like I remembered them.

I remember two Daly's on the west side. One was near I94 on Belleville Rd, and the other on Huron River Drive near Northline. Great Burgers.

Missed out on Geneva's.

[7andkelly]

There are still Sinclair's out west. These are a couple pics from Wyoming a couple years ago
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This is too cool, J! Dino is even fitted with a saddle.

[jcole]

This is too cool, J! Dino is even fitted with a saddle.
Yep, I was outside a gas station in rural Wyoming at 11pm with my 28 year old daughter riding a dinosaur. Yee-haw

[kellyroad]

The cheapest gas I recall during my life time was at the Kelly Rd. Sinclair....19.9 cents a gallon of regular gas.( early 60s) including full service, gift stamps, and give aways ( such as dino soap or a dinosaur plastic bank). The Sunoco, Gulf, and Shell stations on Kelly and Morang and even the Pure (later Union 76) station on Moross/Fordham were considerably more expensive.

DISCUSSION: Where did your family fill up or get oil changed/lube?

[12468_laing]

hey group, back in the saddle from being up in Annapolis. Really liked the pictures of Kelly and all the businesses. I remember the Sanders dry cleaner used to put matchbooks in the pockets of suits - never realized this till we cleaned out Dad's suits that he put away after he retired - quite a fire hazard. As for where we got gas and oil changes, we went to Doug Muir's Standard on Morang and Landsdowne. Had all our repairs done there - honest and good prices. He had a guy named Lenny - big Italian guy who we used to ask for personally. His wife Helen was a waitress at Kavan's back in the day.

[zitro]

The cheapest gas I recall during my life time was at the Kelly Rd. Sinclair....19.9 cents a gallon of regular gas.( early 60s) including full service, gift stamps, and give aways ( such as dino soap or a dinosaur plastic bank). The Sunoco, Gulf, and Shell stations on Kelly and Morang and even the Pure (later Union 76) station on Moross/Fordham were considerably more expensive.

DISCUSSION: Where did your family fill up or get oil changed/lube?


My family used the Sandles Bros, I think it was a Marathon on Kelly right next to Chatham's.

[kellyroad]

My family used the Sandles Bros, I think it was a Marathon on Kelly right next to Chatham's.

After Sinclair left, the Marathon on Kelly was our gas station too. (later it was the Marathon on Kelly in East Detroit)..... Who can forget when the gas jumped from 30cents/gal to 55 cents over night during the oil embargo?

[zitro]

......................

[SJ.Jet]

Sandal's Brothers was a Mobil gas station. It was on the corner of Woodcrest and Kelly. The owner lived somewhere around 7 mile...can't remember which street. I remember there was one guy name Reggie, a guy named Rick (younger than Reggie) and I think there was one more but can't remember his name. After the gas station, Reggie started a mobile mechanic business. He drove a white van and would come to your house and work on your car.

[zitro]

Sandal's Brothers was a Mobil gas station. It was on the corner of Woodcrest and Kelly. The owner lived somewhere around 7 mile...can't remember which street. I remember there was one guy name Reggie, a guy named Rick (younger than Reggie) and I think there was one more but can't remember his name. After the gas station, Reggie started a mobile mechanic business. He drove a white van and would come to your house and work on your car.


Yes, thanks Jet ,I remember the mobile van that Reggie drove around

[kellyroad]

Sandal's Brothers was a Mobil gas station. It was on the corner of Woodcrest and Kelly. The owner lived somewhere around 7 mile...can't remember which street. I remember there was one guy name Reggie, a guy named Rick (younger than Reggie) and I think there was one more but can't remember his name. After the gas station, Reggie started a mobile mechanic business. He drove a white van and would come to your house and work on your car.

The Marathon station I recall was just a block or two north of Chatham's. Was the Mobil station near NBD?

[SJ.Jet]

You are right...I had forgotten about the Marathon. It was on the corner of Woodland and Kelly, the north side of Woodland. The Mobil was across Woodcrest from NBD.

[Tsomyak]

Early on I remember my mom gassing up at the Standard station at Seven and Kelly. Later, my brother worked for a spell at the Sunoco on Kelly and Morang, and we migrated over there. Does anyone remember the owner/name of that one?

[kellyroad]

Early on I remember my mom gassing up at the Standard station at Seven and Kelly. Later, my brother worked for a spell at the Sunoco on Kelly and Morang, and we migrated over there. Does anyone remember the owner/name of that one?

Don't remember anyone over on the Kelly Morang corner. It's a wonder sometimes how one's family chooses a gas station. Usually it's convenience of location, price of gas, or a familiar mechanic. Our family lived on either Eastwood or Morang and I don't recall EVER going to a gas station on Kelly/Morang. We used the Pure gas station (Fordham and Moross), a block away, for an oil change and lube. We also used the Pure station for air for cars and bikes.(but never for gas) ....still remember the ching, ching as the air entered my 24 inch police auction bike. The gauge was cranked to 30 PSI. It was a blue pump with a silver crank handle on the side......Does anyone remember that air pump at PURE? The one time that I used the air at the Shell station on Kelly/Morang I didn't realize that the air compressor was calibrated quite differently than the Pure station. I can still hear the ringing in my ears from when my rear bike tire exploded:eek:

[7andkelly]

Don't remember anyone over on the Kelly Morang corner. It's a wonder sometimes how one's family chooses a gas station. Usually it's convenience of location, price of gas, or a familiar mechanic. Our family lived on either Eastwood or Morang and I don't recall EVER going to a gas station on Kelly/Morang. We used the Pure gas station (Fordham and Moross), a block away, for an oil change and lube. We also used the Pure station for air for cars and bikes.(but never for gas) ....still remember the ching, ching as the air entered my 24 inch police auction bike. The gauge was cranked to 30 PSI. It was a blue pump with a silver crank handle on the side......Does anyone remember that air pump at PURE? The one time that I used the air at the Shell station on Kelly/Morang I didn't realize that the air compressor was calibrated quite differently than the Pure station. I can still hear the ringing in my ears from when my rear bike tire exploded:eek:

Most of the time I filled my own tires with our own manual air pump. I do remember Pure gas station well. Used to get candy out of their neat vending machine. It's the only place I can remember getting Chuckles candy.

[jcole]

I remember my dad and brother getting gas at the station on 8 and Kelly, next to Eastland. I don't remember what kind it was, but I remember 5 gallons for a buck.

[EMG]

Early on I remember my mom gassing up at the Standard station at Seven and Kelly. Later, my brother worked for a spell at the Sunoco on Kelly and Morang, and we migrated over there. Does anyone remember the owner/name of that one?

That was my "preferred" station for many years in the early to mid 80's. I don't know what their first name was, but I believe it was a father-son team and I remember for sure that their last name was Farr because that was the name that appeared on my charge slips when I bought my gas there. I can still visualize the older guy's face. They were good, and I often had them do mechanical work as well. I believe that he once told me he lived somewhere on State Fair, though just where on State Fair I'm not sure.

[kellyroad]

Most of the time I filled my own tires with our own manual air pump. I do remember Pure gas station well. Used to get candy out of their neat vending machine. It's the only place I can remember getting Chuckles candy.

We used a hand pump also to fill bike tires (and as Bill Cosby asked "Why is there air?.. to fill basketballs) . At times I think using the air pump at Pure was just an excuse to hang out. BTW thanks for the great memory jog...Chuckles were my favorite out of that vending machine too. (The orange or cherry were my favorite, the black licorice was the least favorite, but gradually acquired a taste for it)

[kellyroad]

I remember my dad and brother getting gas at the station on 8 and Kelly, next to Eastland. I don't remember what kind it was, but I remember 5 gallons for a buck.

I think one of the first Total stations in the area was at that location but that would have been later in the 70s.

[7andkelly]

My first credit cards were gasoline cards, and Shell was the very first so I bought my gas at the NW corner of Morang and Kelly. It wasn't cheap either in '76.

[7andkelly]

Oh, and GO WINGS!!!

Ozzie was great in net once again this evening.

Now we get to play Cindy Crosby and the Pits for all the marbles ... I cantstanzem.

[EMG]

I think one of the first Total stations in the area was at that location but that would have been later in the 70s.

Yes, it was a Total station - and I think it remained a Total station well throughout most if not all of the 80's.

[jcole]

But was there some sort of station there in the late 60s-early 70s?

[EMG]

But was there some sort of station there in the late 60s-early 70s?

Unfortunately, in the "late 60's-early 70's" I was still too young to be allowed to ride my bike that far, so I wouldn't know! :p

[zitro]

Early on I remember my mom gassing up at the Standard station at Seven and Kelly. Later, my brother worked for a spell at the Sunoco on Kelly and Morang, and we migrated over there. Does anyone remember the owner/name of that one?


I don't remember tha name of the owner of that station, but I do know the owner of the Standard on the corner of Moross and Kelly was Bob Randall. Rick Kavanaugh who was in the choir for a long time was head mechanic there for years

[kellyroad]

But was there some sort of station there in the late 60s-early 70s?

That's a great question/observation JC: I'm not 100% sure if there was a gas station before TOTAL or not. It seems the 8 mile/Kelly corner in the 60s were a Michigan bank (built in the 60s on the SW corner, a family restaurant on the NW corner, a bank on the NE corner, and the mystery business on the SE corner. Wasn't there a Boron station there at on time??

[SJ.Jet]

I found this picture on WSU's website that EMG posted a link for.

I don't know what year it was taken but judging by the line for gas, I'd say at least '73.

I remember when I came back home in 1985 and the Total had installed bullet-proof glass at the cash register and one of those trays you slide your money into so the clerk can get it from the other side. Thought it was funny at the time....

I think the Total was one of the first gas stations around there that began to stay open 24 hours. Back in the olden days, gas stations used to close up for the night.

The bank across Kelly was a Michigan National, I believe. Next to that on 8 Mile was an Arthur Treacher's Fish & Chips.

[kellyroad]

I found this picture on WSU's website that EMG posted a link for.

I don't know what year it was taken but judging by the line for gas, I'd say at least '73.

I remember when I came back home in 1985 and the Total had installed bullet-proof glass at the cash register and one of those trays you slide your money into so the clerk can get it from the other side. Thought it was funny at the time....

I think the Total was one of the first gas stations around there that began to stay open 24 hours. Back in the olden days, gas stations used to close up for the night.

The bank across Kelly was a Michigan National, I believe. Next to that on 8 Mile was an Arthur Treacher's Fish & Chips.

SJJ: I remember the around the clock TOTAL as being one of the first also. That was a busy intersection with 8 Mile, Eastland, and nearby I-94. Wasn't the restaurant on the NW corner called Biff's at one time?

[Detroitej72]

SJJ: I remember the around the clock TOTAL as being one of the first also. That was a busy intersection with 8 Mile, Eastland, and nearby I-94. Wasn't the restaurant on the NW corner called Biff's at one time?

My earliest memories were of the restaurant being called Banquet on a Bun, then it was Armories. Then it went through a number of name changes including Friar Tuck's and most recently Rex's Kelly Road Deli.

There was also a Mobile station next to it that is currently an oil change shop.

[7andkelly]

SJJ: I remember the around the clock TOTAL as being one of the first also. That was a busy intersection with 8 Mile, Eastland, and nearby I-94. Wasn't the restaurant on the NW corner called Biff's at one time?

I remember Biff's...nice restaurant...fast service...order soup there, and they ladeled it into your bowl as you were speaking.

Was the Total put in where the multi-story Eastland Professional Building once proudly stood, or was that ripped out for some other purpose?

[7andkelly]

I found this picture on WSU's website that EMG posted a link for.

I don't know what year it was taken but judging by the line for gas, I'd say at least '73.

I remember when I came back home in 1985 and the Total had installed bullet-proof glass at the cash register and one of those trays you slide your money into so the clerk can get it from the other side. Thought it was funny at the time....

I think the Total was one of the first gas stations around there that began to stay open 24 hours. Back in the olden days, gas stations used to close up for the night.

The bank across Kelly was a Michigan National, I believe. Next to that on 8 Mile was an Arthur Treacher's Fish & Chips.

Nice picture post, SJJ. Is that my 68 Coronet I see back in that line? If it is, it's being driven by the original owner who took oh so good care of it. He got a new Aspen in 76, and I got the best used car ever!

[Detroitej72]

I remember Biff's...nice restaurant...fast service...order soup there, and they ladeled it into your bowl as you were speaking.

Was the Total put in where the multi-story Eastland Professional Building once proudly stood, or was that ripped out for some other purpose?

Total was there at the same time as the EPB. That space is now occupied by an Applebee's, and a McDonald's.

[7andkelly]

Total was there at the same time as the EPB. That space is now occupied by an Applebee's, and a McDonald's.

That sure beats a gutted out shell or a vacant lot. Eastland was in pretty good shape, IMO, last time I checked.

[BillRush]

I'm so old that I clicked on Eastwood to reminisce about the great Eastwood Gardens amusement park at 8&G. Big bands and great rides.

[Eastburn]

I watched them burn the old wooden roller coaster when they wrecked the place. We lived just 5 blocks south of there.

[EMG]

My dad has told me about an amusement park there, but it's all an ancient history story to me as it wasn't around by the time I was growing up in the 60's. (When exactly DID that park close? How long was the area vacant before the new shopping center got built on the site?) I DO remember as a kid in the 60's and early 70's frequently going to the Shopper's Fair on that corner. I believe that later became KMart. I also remember there was a place called Don's Chuck Wagon Restaurant just north of the Shopper's Fair parking lot (but I never ate there).

A similar place I remember shopping at with my grandmother was Arlan's which was on the northeast corner of 8 Mile and Schoenherr. The building which (at least as of the time I left was) Art Van's Furniture was PEOPLE's furniture back then.

And then wasn't there a place called Yankee's (I'm not even sure if that was the name of it but it seems right) on Schoenherr up around 14 mile? Boy, now I'm delving DEEP into recesses of memories I had long forgotten.

Another favorite place that I used to go shopping with my grandparents was the whole area of 7 mile and Gratiot, most notably Montgomery Ward's and Federal's Department Store. I also used to take piano lessons at a private home on Maddelein just east of Gratiot, and my mother would shop in that area during my lesson, sometimes getting me some candy from Fannie Farmer's for after the lesson.

[kellyroad]

My mom told me about the time she took the Gratiot street car up to 8 mile and saw Sophie Tucker at the Eastwood Gardens. I'm wondering too if Shopper's Fair was built right after the Eastwood Gardens was torn down.

[EMG]

Well I just did a Google search on "Shopper's Fair" and turned up some interesting sites that some here may find of interest.

http://www.wtv-zone.com/dpjohnson/60sdiscountstores/ - not a Detroit site but nonetheless an interesting look back at some old chain stores including Shopper's Fair.

And here's the "main menu" for the site above:

http://www.wtv-zone.com/dpjohnson/homepage/index.html

"You're an Old Detroiter if...." (Waterford alumni page): http://www.waterfordalumni.com/html/rick_lafay.html

And here's an even better one from the Assumption Grotto area. In fact, I'm not only going to post the link
http://assumptionaires.com/Miscellaneous/YOURE%20AN%20OLD%20DETROITER%20IF.htm

I'm going to paste in the text. This one's sure to start enough memories to keep this thread going for a long, long time!

YOU'RE AN OLD DETROITER IF...

You ever played in the "Big Ditch" as I-94 was being built.

You took a "moonlight cruise" to Bob-Lo with Captain Bob-Lo or took the bus to Edgewater Amusement Park. (see http://www.boblosteamers.com/) You remember the cruises to Put-In-Bay.

You remember Eastside Amusement Park on Eight Mile and Gratiot. The Jefferson Beach amusement park on Jefferson near 9 mile with the Fun House with the rolling wood barrel, the house that Jack built, and the burlap sheets you used on the wood slide.

You remember cheering from one end of the tunnel to the other while going to Belle Isle.

The big stove was on Jefferson Ave at the entrance to Belle Isle.

You rented bikes or rode horses or the horse drawn carriages on Belle Isle. You rented canoes and paddled from one end of the island to the other. Raced model sailboats. Golfed after dark at the lighted Belle Isle par three course.

You shopped at Hughes and Hatcher, B. Siegel, Peck and Peck, Himelhoch's, Federal's, Kerns, or Berlin's.

The "Street Cars" ran on tracks down the center of Gratiot. The "car barns" were at Gratiot and Harper and the turntable was called the "Ca-ga-loop."

You've ever played on the escalator at J. L. Hudson's downtown, and if you hurt yourself you were taken to the Hospital on the 3rd floor. You rode the elevator, which was "run" by an elevator operator. You played in the toy department on the 12th floor while your parents shopped. You sat on Santa’s lap on the mezzanine on the 12th floor.

You remember when Eastland and Northland were NEW and not enclosed malls.

You remember any mayors other than Young and Archer and you know who Cobo was.

You remember what you were doing when you got word there was a "riot" going on.

You remember a Winkleman's store in your neighborhood.

You thought driving to Southfield, was going "out to the country."

You remember the mineral bath smell of Mt. Clemens. You stopped for ice cream at the Mt. Clemens Creamery on Gratiot in Mt. Clemens -- the best was orange-pineapple!

You remember the "Big Snow."

You watched Buffalo Bob, Howdy Doody, Clarabell, Flub-a-Dub, Phineas T. Bluster, Princess Winter-Fall-Summer-Spring on TV.

On the Saturday morning brought to you by Kowalski Sausage --- Plunk your magic twanger, Froggy. The Gunga Din movies, cartoons, etc.

You remember Twin Pines Dairy delivered milk and juice to the chute on the side of your house..... and Milky the Clown performed magic with the magic words "Twin Pines."

You remember! the Good Humor man in a white uniform, ringing the bells and riding down your street.

You saw Marvin Gaye (or The Beatles) sing at the Olympia Stadium or the Twenty Grand Lounge.

Sock Hops at Notre Dame High School with Stevie Wonder and Father "Hollywood" Bryson.

You remember Olympia Stadium.

You remember Land-of-Nod, the Magic Shop, the old Ben Franklin Library (on Greiner,) Kinsels Drugs, Scrumptious Ice Cream (before Dairy Queen), Saratoga Bakery, Universal Appliances, Paul Remers, Heinrichs, Webers Meats, Lawsonian Church, Rubys Furniture, Neisners 5&10 Cent Store, Union Appliances, Budmans Heating, Sanders Candies, Sanders Cleaners, Ramona Theater, Christian Brothers Market, Bertotti’s Market, Smith’s Market, see more below.

You attended the Father-and-Son Party at the Assumption Grotto School Basement with the surprise visit by Soupy Sales. You helped with the school newspaper drives. The dance instructors (cost 10 cents/student/lesson), husband and wife, ????. Taught the students the Waltz, Foxtrot, square dance, Virginia Reel, etc.

You took the streetcar and then the bus through the tunnel to Windsor to buy Lady-Finger fire-crackers at 25 cents per 100.

Waterford was where your neighbor’s cottage was.

The large fireworks displays put on by the J.L. Hudson Company at the foot of Woodward every 4th of July.

You remember when Vernor's was made on Woodward and the bearded troll was on the bottle. Your parents treated you to Vernor’s on tap at the Vernor’s building near the foot of Woodward.

You drank Towne Club pop (or Grilli's or Oh-So or Atlas).

You bought groceries at Big Bear, Christian Brothers, Great Scott, Lipson's, Dixfield's, National, A&P, Smiths or Chatham's.

Your Mom saved Holden Red Stamps, H&S Green Stamps or Gold Bell Stamps.

Kresge's, Woolworth's, and Neisner’s were "DIME STORES."

Your school took a bus trip to "the cider mill" and had donuts and cider after the tour.

Your school took a bus trip to Kellogg's in Battle Creek.

You had an Uncle in the furniture business (Joshua Doore).

You know who Bill Kennedy (Channel 9 Windsor) was --- but maybe never saw him in the movies.

You remember the Speedway Auto Racetrack on Eight Mile and Schoenherr.

You shopped at Arlans, Shopper's Fair, Federals, and Korvettes.

You remember this telephone number: Tyler 8-7100 (Belvedere Construction) and the slogan "We do good work."

Your phone number may have started with Venice, Lakeview, Tyler, Kenwood, Diamond, Trinity, Twinbrook, Melrose, Madison, Townsend, Plaza, Olive, or Cadillac.

You saw the Detroit Lions play football in Tiger Stadium. You remember the Lions with Milt Plum, Bobby Layne, and Howard “Hopalong” Cassidy beating the Cleveland Browns for the NFL Championship 56-14.

You remember this phrase "suga is suga and salt is salt, if you didn't get off it's not my fault."

You shopped at Crowley's, and crossed the enclosed bridge. Your mother also took you to Kern’s probably on Downtown Detroit Days (DDD.)

You remember Black Bart, and the Faygo pop song being sung on the Bob-Lo boat. Or how about, "Which way did he go? Which way did he go?" Herkimer the exhausted Faygo bottle-blower (“I’m too pooped to participate!” “What, too pooped to participate!?” “Then live it up, up, up with Uptown!”)and the Faygo kid.

The Goeble Brewery (mascot – the rooster) across Gratiot from the Stroh’s Brewery. And nearby the smell of fresh baked bread from the Silvercup Bread Bakery (1-1/2 cups of milk in every loaf.)

You watched Rita Bell's Prize Movie.

You ran home from school to listen to The Shadow on weekdays.

You know who Sonny Elliot is. Do you remember him using the chalk on a map of Michigan? Sonny Elliot saying Inga-Dinga-Dine (after Ingadine, Michigan,) and removing the Keweenau Peninsula from the map and twisting his finger into it!

Holding snakes at the Children's zoo on Belle Isle, or at the Detroit Zoo?

You remember Jac LeGoff, Lou Gordon, and Van Patrick.

You remember Soupy Sales, Johnny Ginger, The Friendly Giant, Uncle Bob, Poopdeck Paul and Captain Jolly.

From 12 noon to 1 PM on weekdays you remember Soupy Says (Words of Wisdom on the chalkboard), Willy the Worm, and the old time movies.

You visited the Wonder Bread Bakery and got to take home a mini loaf of bread.

You have a picture of yourself sitting on the pony that seemed to make it down everyone's street.

Your zip code was only one or two digits - Detroit 19, Michigan

You had a (Shaffer's) breadman and a (Brickley's) milkman. Milk brought in glass quart bottles, the egg-man selling eggs from a straw basket door-to-door, and the ice man bringing an ice block with tongs into your house and placing in the icebox.

You remember "Get on the right track, to 9 Mile and Mack. To get the best deal in town. At Roy O' Brien......"

You remember the PURE and GULF gas stations. The "Gas Wars." Total Gas at 18.9 cents/gal.

Your house had a laundry chute and a milk chute. You would squeeze through the milk chute to open unlock the side door for your parents.

You remember Primo's Pizza, The Red Barn, Powers, Henry's, Top Hat, Herc's Beef Buffet, Big Boy's Drive-In, and Tom's Tavern.

You attended a wedding reception or a banquet at Roma Hall, Geisz Hall, Polish Century Club.

You banked at Detroit Bank & Trust, National Bank of Detroit, and First Federal.

You remember seeing Jolly Jack from City Sew-Vac on TV selling his reconditioned canister vacuum cleaners. “I’m Jolly Jack from City-SewVac … I’m just a little guy, but I’ve got a great deal for you…!”



Business’s Near Assumption Grotto in the 1950’s:

Land ‘O Nod Baby Furniture
Magic Store
National Bank of Detroit
Weitenberner Funeral Home
Big Bear Market (later Wrigley’s Market)
Scrumptious (like Dairy Queen)
Dairy queen
Neisner’s 5&10 Cent Store
Kinsel’s Drugs
Paul Remer’s Drugs
Universal Appliance
Christian Brother’s Market
Sanders Candies
Barber College (earlier Ruby’s Furniture)
Cook’s Paints
Gas Company Office
Weber’s Meats
Scotties Fish & Chips
Heinrich’s Bakery
Health Supreme
S&F Smith’s Market
Agdan’s Studio (earlier Judy Kudialis Dance Studio)
Budman’s Heating
Sander’s Cleaners
Bertotti’s Market
Lawsonian Church
Union Appliance
Geisz Hall
Alcoy Grill
Ramona Bowling
Ramona Theater
Old Benjamin Franklin Library
Saratoga Bakery
Old Magic Shop (around the corner from the Saratoga Bakery)
Dairy Queen
Reiter’s Meats

[EMG]

In fact, I see there is a whole club of "Assumptionaires" made up of people from that area. If interested, check it out!

http://assumptionaires.com/

[Fury13]

Fury13: I lived on Morang and Eastwood in the 50s thru 70s and didn't know about the soda fountain at Supreme Drugs. Shows how provincial we can be at times. I do remember my mom saying that Supreme Drugs would send a welcoming basket to new residents in the neighborhood. My folks moved on Morang in 1952.

To revisit Supreme Drugs: my mom told me recently that the soda fountain came out in the mid- to late '50s.

Also, was there originally a Sam's Market on the corner of 7 and Hayes that later held Frank's Nursery?

[jcole]

Your zip code was only one or two digits - Detroit 19, Michigan

I think that was called your Zone. But anyway, were we all in Zone 05?

[Tsomyak]

I think that was called your Zone. But anyway, were we all in Zone 05?

Nope, we were in 24. I think Kelly may have been the boundary. Harper Woods is 25 I believe.

[EMG]

That sounds about right - I imagine the old "zones" all just had 482 slapped onto the beginnings of them, because I know for sure my old zip code, 48224, includes everything east of Kelly (possibly east of Hayes but that I'm not sure of) and west of Mack and north of - well I don't know, Whittier/Outer drive or possibly even south of that. Then yes 48225 is Harper Woods, and 48205 is west of Hayes (or Kelly). I'm sure 7 and Kelly could confirm the correct boundary line between 48224 and 48205 for us.

[kellyroad]

To revisit Supreme Drugs: my mom told me recently that the soda fountain came out in the mid- to late '50s.

Also, was there originally a Sam's Market on the corner of 7 and Hayes that later held Frank's Nursery?

Thanks for the info Fury13. My earliest recollection of Franks is that it was a small building. Most of the nursery was outdoor business. Later in the 60s the building expanded and became Frank's Nursery and Crafts. I'm wondering if the orignal building was Sam's Market.??

[jcole]

That sounds about right - I imagine the old "zones" all just had 482 slapped onto the beginnings of them, because I know for sure my old zip code, 48224, includes everything east of Kelly (possibly east of Hayes but that I'm not sure of) and west of Mack and north of - well I don't know, Whittier/Outer drive or possibly even south of that. Then yes 48225 is Harper Woods, and 48205 is west of Hayes (or Kelly). I'm sure 7 and Kelly could confirm the correct boundary line between 48224 and 48205 for us.
I lived on Maddelein between Redmond and Boulder, and we were 48205, so it must have been west of Kelly, North of 7, South of 8 and East of ?

[7andkelly]

I lived on Maddelein between Redmond and Boulder, and we were 48205, so it must have been west of Kelly, North of 7, South of 8 and East of ?

SW of 7andkelly: Detroit 5, Mich.

[jcole]

Maybe north of Whittier?

[EMG]

Ok, here's the site that will settle all questions!

http://maps.huge.info/zip.htm

[7andkelly]

Ok, here's the site that will settle all questions!

http://maps.huge.info/zip.htm

Good find, Emg. Whittier was close.

[jcole]

Ok, here's the site that will settle all questions!

http://maps.huge.info/zip.htm

It doesn't say which is better: thin crust or deep dish

[7andkelly]

It doesn't say which is better: thin crust or deep dish

You have a point.

Thin crust at Little Caesar's, and deep dish at Pizza Hut.

Pick one at Buddy's.

[Tsomyak]

You have a point.

Thin crust at Little Caesar's, and deep dish at Pizza Hut.

Pick one at Buddy's.


Hey, let's not forget Cloverleaf!

[kellyroad]

You have a point.

Thin crust at Little Caesar's, and deep dish at Pizza Hut.

Pick one at Buddy's.
Just happened to get a late night snack at the original Buddy's on Conant and 6Mi last night. Haven't been there in over 20 yrs prior. Pizza is still great but I recall the antipasto salad being better. Bocce ball courts are still there but the photos and plaques of its former commissioners (i.e. Al Ackerman) were not on display. :mad:

[7andkelly]

Bocce ball courts are still there but the photos and plaques of its former commissioners (i.e. Al Ackerman) were not on display. :mad:

Isn't Al Ackerman the one who started saying "Bless you boys." which soon after became the theme for the Detroit Tigers in 1984?

[Eastburn]

I guess I'm really an old Detroiter. I remember them all. The piece had a couple of errors: Eastwood, not Eastland Park (closed early 50's).....and I'm so olld I can't remember the other one. Got to re-read.

[kellyroad]

Isn't Al Ackerman the one who started saying "Bless you boys." which soon after became the theme for the Detroit Tigers in 1984?
Right you are. The Al Ackerman trivia question however lost some of its panache with the absence of the portrait at Buddy's.:(

how bout that Justin Abedlkader

[7andkelly]

how bout that Justin Abedlkader

Abdelkader, Ericsson, Helm, Leino ... who'd of thunk these kids would be in the lineup, let alone playing significant minutes, and contributing in such a fantastic manner!

[Detroitej72]

Thanks for the info Fury13. My earliest recollection of Franks is that it was a small building. Most of the nursery was outdoor business. Later in the 60s the building expanded and became Frank's Nursery and Crafts. I'm wondering if the orignal building was Sam's Market.??

When I was a wee lad, I used to enjoy throwing pennies into the fountain in the garden center at Frank's. Then, in the late 70s or early 80s, they renovated the building and removed the fountain. Then I'd toss my pennies into one of the fountains at that outdoor statue shop on 7 Mile, next door to Fantasy Lanes.

I also remember there was a fire in the warehouse part of Frank's sometime in the early 80s. As a kid, I was fascinated with fires, so I would ride my bike there to watch the progress as they rebuilt the garage.

[EMG]

When I was a wee lad, I used to enjoy throwing pennies into the fountain in the garden center at Frank's. Then, in the late 70s or early 80s, they renovated the building and removed the fountain. Then I'd toss my pennies into one of the fountains at that outdoor statue shop on 7 Mile, next door to Fantasy Lanes.

I don't remember Fantasy Lanes but by "outdoor statue shop" are you talking about the place that was near the corner of 7 mile and Joanne? My grandparents shopped there frequently. I remember one time there was a car accident there - someone had pulled out from the sidestreet onto 7 mile and hit someone going on 7 mile - it was the first car accident I'd ever seen.

[Detroitej72]

I don't remember Fantasy Lanes but by "outdoor statue shop" are you talking about the place that was near the corner of 7 mile and Joanne? My grandparents shopped there frequently. I remember one time there was a car accident there - someone had pulled out from the sidestreet onto 7 mile and hit someone going on 7 mile - it was the first car accident I'd ever seen.

No, that was a different statue shop on 7 Mile. (never realised what a statue avenue 7 Mile was!!!) I think it was called Alcoy Gardens, I presume, after the street?

The place I was referring to was just west of Hayes, a few doors down from Onasis Coney Island. The next door neighbor was Fantasy Lanes.

[zitro]

No, that was a different statue shop on 7 Mile. (never realised what a statue avenue 7 Mile was!!!) I think it was called Alcoy Gardens, I presume, after the street?

The place I was referring to was just west of Hayes, a few doors down from Onasis Coney Island. The next door neighbor was Fantasy Lanes.


I just about lived at Fantasy and I can honestly say I never saw anyone in the statue shop it always made me wonder how they stayed in business

[EMG]

No, that was a different statue shop on 7 Mile. (never realised what a statue avenue 7 Mile was!!!) I think it was called Alcoy Gardens, I presume, after the street?

The place I was referring to was just west of Hayes, a few doors down from Onasis Coney Island. The next door neighbor was Fantasy Lanes.

I don't actually remember the name, but Alcoy sounds reasonable. Yes, I now remember Alcoy as being another street in that immediate area, so that definitely sounds like the one I was talking about. So no wonder I don't remember Fantasy Lanes - even though we would have had to go right by it to get to the one on Alcoy, since we would have been coming from Morang!

I guess I wasn't into bowling that much at the time. On a rare occasion my mother would take me bowling, but we'd usually go to the Denby bowling alley on Whittier near Duchess.

[7andkelly]

Flamingo Hall was just west of Fantasy Lanes, toward Chalmers from Hayes, right? Danced up a storm there when I was about 5 at a cousin's wedding. My mug is in just about every family photo taken there that day.

[Eastburn]

Flamingo Hall was just west of Fantasy Lanes, toward Chalmers from Hayes, right? Danced up a storm there when I was about 5 at a cousin's wedding. My mug is in just about every family photo taken there that day.

It was the Flamingo Theatre when I was a kid. I distinctly remember seeing "Abbot & Costello meet the Wolfman" there at a 10 cent Saturday matinee.

When I was in 8th grade it was the Flamingo roller rink. We had a class skating party there.

That old building had a few incarnations. Wonder if it's still standing.

[jcole]

It was the Flamingo Theatre when I was a kid. I distinctly remember seeing "Abbot & Costello meet the Wolfman" there at a 10 cent Saturday matinee.

When I was in 8th grade it was the Flamingo roller rink. We had a class skating party there.

That old building had a few incarnations. Wonder if it's still standing.

My sister, Liz, had her wedding there in 1964. It was a really nice hall back in the day. She had one of those all day weddings where you had the Mass in the morning, followed by a 'breakfast' (really a mid day dinner), a couple hours of relaxing, and then the evening reception. Who could afford that today?

[Eastburn]

Pretty typical Polish or Italian wedding in the day. Or often a Polish/Italian wedding. One of the most common cross cultural unions in my observation.

[Tsomyak]

My cousin's wedding was that way as well. I remember the reception was somewhere in Hamtramck. We stayed on till the wee hours of the morning, which was quite an experience for me, being nine years old at the time. That was an eventful night in the city as I recall, some kind of disturbance on 12th Street as well.

[zitro]

My cousin's wedding was that way as well. I remember the reception was somewhere in Hamtramck. We stayed on till the wee hours of the morning, which was quite an experience for me, being nine years old at the time. That was an eventful night in the city as I recall, some kind of disturbance on 12th Street as well.


It was just a little bonfire, people letting off a some steam, at least they got it cleaned up 30 years later

[jcole]

It was just a little bonfire, people letting off a some steam, at least they got it cleaned up 30 years later
When did they do that??

[jcole]

Pretty typical Polish or Italian wedding in the day. Or often a Polish/Italian wedding. One of the most common cross cultural unions in my observation.
Yep, my sister is part Polish, her husband is 1/2 Italian.

[zitro]

When did they do that??


Well, maybe it was the wind

[7andkelly]

The Admiral's on the fritz today. All I get is channel 9. Funny thing is that one's coming in better than ever. I even tried the old UHF converter with a new tube from Olson's, and moved the aerial in the attic every which way, and checked all the spaghetti, and still I get diddly squat. Guess I'm going to have to pull out the tuner.

[zitro]

The Admiral's on the fritz today. All I get is channel 9. Funny thing is that one's coming in better than ever. I even tried the old UHF converter with a new tube from Olson's, and moved the aerial in the attic every which way, and checked all the spaghetti, and still I get diddly squat. Guess I'm going to have to pull out the tuner.


Nothing that a fresh piece of tin foil won't help

[7andkelly]

Nothing that a fresh piece of tin foil won't help

That, or we'll need a kid to stand there and hold the aerial so we can watch Soupy Sales, Lou Gordon and George Perot.

[zitro]

That, or we'll need a kid to stand there and hold the aerial so we can watch Soupy Sales, Lou Gordon and George Perot.


George was sleeping last time I saw him

[kellyroad]

George was sleeping last time I saw him
"Today our guest is Stan Cooper with a very interesting travelogue on the Ivory Coast. Stay tuned. We'll be right back after these messages"

[jcole]

Was he eating a sandwich in his sleep?

[kellyroad]

I had to see it for myself. After 40 yrs the back board on the Eastwood house garage is gone. A trip to Locke Lumber, a sheet of plywood, a cut 2X4, 4 bolts and nuts, nails and paint are now a fond memory.

[zitro]

I had to see it for myself. After 40 yrs the back board on the Eastwood house garage is gone. A trip to Locke Lumber, a sheet of plywood, a cut 2X4, 4 bolts and nuts, nails and paint are now a fond memory.


The best hoop in our neighborhood was at the Mette's house. They lived on the corner so you could include some of the street as part of the court, it was a luxury that most with just a backyard didn't have.

[7andkelly]

I had to see it for myself. After 40 yrs the back board on the Eastwood house garage is gone. A trip to Locke Lumber, a sheet of plywood, a cut 2X4, 4 bolts and nuts, nails and paint are now a fond memory.

Maybe they're planning to put it back after painting and resealing.:rolleyes:

[kellyroad]

Maybe they're planning to put it back after painting and resealing.:rolleyes:
and repaving the driveway surface

[kellyroad]

The best hoop in our neighborhood was at the Mette's house. They lived on the corner so you could include some of the street as part of the court, it was a luxury that most with just a backyard didn't have.
The real cool courts had a flood light or two.:D

[7andkelly]

and repaving the driveway surface

Sounds cool.

[kellyroad]

Great news. The absence of a basketball backboard and rim on the Eastwood house was only short lived. Just discovered there is now a replacement (much lower...probably litlle ones around). The tradtition lives!

[7andkelly]

Great news. The absence of a basketball backboard and rim on the Eastwood house was only short lived. Just discovered there is now a replacement (much lower...probably litlle ones around). The tradtition lives!

Cool, and just in time for the 4th of July. Hopefully it's low enough for me to dunk.

After a couple of games there, there is the annual Ziggenfelder party a few doors down with lots of great food and pop, and home movies of their vacations. If I'm lucky, someone will let me light some sparklers (or mosquito chasers). And of course, once it's dark enough, Mr. Aubrey will light off the good stuff.

[metman]

Just read the entire thread on Eastwood...lived at Eastwood and Hayes. Nice to hear all the memories. Here is one little known, the Quickie Car Wash on the corner of Hayes, was owned in the 70's and 80's by Joe Messina, one of the original musicians for Motown, he was in the recent movie about all the players of the songs of the 60's. Bono's pizza was next door with his ties to Sonny. Seems like we were linked to the music of the time, at the end of the street and just around the corner.

[7andkelly]

Just read the entire thread on Eastwood...lived at Eastwood and Hayes. Nice to hear all the memories. Here is one little known, the Quickie Car Wash on the corner of Hayes, was owned in the 70's and 80's by Joe Messina, one of the original musicians for Motown, he was in the recent movie about all the players of the songs of the 60's. Bono's pizza was next door with his ties to Sonny. Seems like we were linked to the music of the time, at the end of the street and just around the corner.

Cool. Thanks for sharing.

If you thought this was an interesting read, there is a whole bunch more out on the "old forum" eastwood memories thread.

[jcole]

Here 7:
http://atdetroit.net/forum/messages/5/129858.html?1238601508

[7andkelly]

Here 7:
http://atdetroit.net/forum/messages/5/129858.html?1238601508

Thanks, J. Too bad this isn't seamless.

[kellyroad]

Just read the entire thread on Eastwood...lived at Eastwood and Hayes. Nice to hear all the memories. Here is one little known, the Quickie Car Wash on the corner of Hayes, was owned in the 70's and 80's by Joe Messina, one of the original musicians for Motown, he was in the recent movie about all the players of the songs of the 60's. Bono's pizza was next door with his ties to Sonny. Seems like we were linked to the music of the time, at the end of the street and just around the corner.
Metman: Someone gave me a recording of the Funk Brothers performing Motown hits without any vocals. I'm guessing Joe Messina performed on that recording. The CD is awesome. I lived on Eastwood near Kelly, had a paper route on Eastwood and even worked at the car wash for a dollar an hour on one Saturday back in 1970. The car wash remains a vestige in that neighborhood of a by gone era. The connection to Joe Messina is intriguing to say the least. Bono's was always a favorite stop..Their cannolies were the best.

[7andkelly]

We've discussed before the traffic signal at the corner of Rex and 7 Mile ... about the highly trained certified dutiful duty boys who used to patrol it before and after school ... and about how some used to push the button to stop traffic for fun (that never got old).

For little kids who lived inside the 7 Mile / Kelly Rd / Morang triange, that traffic light represented much more. It was a gateway. Just push that button, and wait to cross ... safely into another world ... one giant leap to St. Jude's, the playfield, Heilmann Park, other kids' houses, Burbank, Brock's Party Store, Vetere's ...

And if you got in any trouble later for venturing out too far, you could always say, "but Mom, I crossed at the light."

[kellyroad]

We've discussed before the traffic signal at the corner of Rex and 7 Mile ... about the highly trained certified dutiful duty boys who used to patrol it before and after school ... and about how some used to push the button to stop traffic for fun (that never got old).

For little kids who lived inside the 7 Mile / Kelly Rd / Morang triange, that traffic light represented much more. It was a gateway. Just push that button, and wait to cross ... safely into another world ... one giant leap to St. Jude's, the playfield, Heilmann Park, other kids' houses, Burbank, Brock's Party Store, Vetere's ...

And if you got in any trouble later for venturing out too far, you could always say, "but Mom, I crossed at the light."
Sorry to report that "the button",.the once symbol of safety, the vestige of adventure to north 7 Mile adventure, and focal point of tomfoolery for many children who lived on Eastwood and the nearby neighborhood is no longer in existence.

[EMG]

Anybody pining for that button need only visit Scottsdale, Arizona. We have plenty of them here.

[jcole]

THere are a few in Almont, too

[zitro]

Maybe someone could stop at Staples and pick up one of those Easy Buttons and glue it on the post

[7andkelly]

Sorry to report that "the button",.the once symbol of safety, the vestige of adventure to north 7 Mile adventure, and focal point of tomfoolery for many children who lived on Eastwood and the nearby neighborhood is no longer in existence.

First the lights above the confessional door, then TS, and now the Rex/7 Mile button. Is nothing sacred? Next thing you know they'll be tearing down JLA.

[Tsomyak]

First the lights above the confessional door, then TS, and now the Rex/7 Mile button. Is nothing sacred? Next thing you know they'll be tearing down JLA.

Reports of my demise have been greatly exaggerated. :D