NHL Playoffs

[LeannaM]

Blues are in the Playoffs baby!

Set to face the Wings right now, but it depends on what Anaheim does. The Wings will either face Anaheim or St. Louis. As a Blues fan, I'd rather face San Jose honestly.

See you in the playoffs!

[Ray1936]

I dunno. I'm getting bad vibes about the Wings just right now. I'd not be surprised to see them an early out.

[Bobl]

Me, too. Something just isn't right about the team. Too many goals against, many resulting from careless passing in their own zone.
Maybe they need a fire lit under their posteriors.

[ccbatson]

That uncertainty ought to make for interesting and exciting games.

[14509glenfield]

Besides sharp skates they got to sharpen their attitude a whole lot better than the debacle this last Sunday.

[d.mcc]

Besides sharp skates they got to sharpen their attitude a whole lot better than the debacle this last Sunday.

Whats that, playing it safe for the playoffs??? The 2nd spot was already secured, they had no reason to play at 100% and risk injury to top skaters. They needed to look ahead to Columbus. The Presidents trophy was lost, spot secured. No need to do anything stupid, just play the game loose and get ready for the run.

[ccbatson]

Taking it easy to save yourself for later challenges often dilutes the human drive necessary to go all the way in the end. Hopefully, they can find the right balance and timing.

[ghettopalmetto]

Yeah, you're right. "Human drive" can conquer any devastating injuries suffered in a late-season game.

[Detroitej72]

The Wings are a proven playoff team, no need to worry. They have many tested vetrans and players like Hossa who are hungry for the chance to sip from Lord Stanley's Cup.

See you all in June at the parade!

[d.mcc]

Taking it easy to save yourself for later challenges often dilutes the human drive necessary to go all the way in the end. Hopefully, they can find the right balance and timing.

As someone who has been in similar situations as to what the wings were in, albeit on a slightly lower level. Both teams had locked up spots and a win or a loss one way or the other was going to affect their position in the race...its common sense.

[Downriviera]

Multiple games on multiple channels, I have to get some new batteries for my remote.

[ccbatson]

Maybe so D_mcc, but the spirit and mindset of the team will have been affected.

[d.mcc]

Maybe so D_mcc, but the spirit and mindset of the team will have been affected.

Doubt it, professional players understand that physical attributes need to be in top condition before a long run. Injuries happen, short turn around, hostile environments, the team that can handle the rigors the best usually prevails. Strong body is as, if not more important, than a strong mind in the play-offs

[Johnlodge]

One step closer to Lord Stanley's Cup for the Wings.

[d.mcc]

One step closer to Lord Stanely's Cup for the Wings.

Only 15 more steps to take...

[GOAT]

Hoping Vancouver kicks the Blues asses! But I do like St. Louis' logo. It really is one of the best in the league.

[Johnlodge]

Hoping Vancouver kicks the Blues asses! But I do like St. Louis' logo. It really is one of the best in the league.

My rooting generally goes in this order:

Red Wings
Rest of original six
Pittsburgh Penguins
Rest of NHL
Whatever those Duck shitheads in California are now calling themselves.

[TKshreve]

Pretty much all my worries were put to rest last night. Especially Chris Osgood. He played very well in the first period, and went on to play very consistently for the rest of the game.

Not to mention some secondary scoring from Valterri Filpulla and Happy Hudler. Then you had Franzen with a strong game, Jonathon "The Kid" Ericsson netting a first ever playoff goal in his first ever playoff game and zetterberg moving the puck well. Hossa and Pavel will have their time to light the lamp, just not last night.

What really calms me down is the fact that we did shut down Rick Nash. I didn't see his efforts amounting to much at all last night.

And they tried to take it to us physically. We responded quite well, although we took some penalties, but never let our guard down and withstood the heat. Great game all around.

[ccbatson]

Adversity can be a great motivator....Go Wings!!

[LeannaM]

Blues are down 2 games to none, but we can go home now and hopefully win the next one.

Did I mention how classless Canucks fans are? I don't care how much you hate David Backes. Leave his wife out of it. Trashing his website with his wedding photos is simply not acceptable. Insinuating that she's having extramarital affairs is fine on the ice (which Burrows did). Off the ice it is not fine. Good grief. Classless and unsportsmanlike.

[d.mcc]

Blues are down 2 games to none, but we can go home now and hopefully win the next one.

Did I mention how classless Canucks fans are? I don't care how much you hate David Backes. Leave his wife out of it. Trashing his website with his wedding photos is simply not acceptable. Insinuating that she's having extramarital affairs is fine on the ice (which Burrows did). Off the ice it is not fine. Good grief. Classless and unsportsmanlike.

Gotta be tough...

Just ask Brian Bellows:

(NSFW)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MNA0_n32Hc

[Blarf]

It's funny how the wings finish at the top nearly every year, yet no one has any confidence in them.

You can't blame them. They have a long history of upsets by inferior teams. They probably should have won about 9 Stanley Cups since 95'

[d.mcc]

It's funny how the wings finish at the top nearly every year, yet no one has any confidence in them.

You can't blame them. They have a long history of upsets by inferior teams. They probably should have won about 9 Stanley Cups since 95'

Not necessarily. On paper I agree 100% with that statement, except for the fact that as far as grueling goes, no other professional sport touches hockey in the play-offs. Its more about stamina than talent and skill at some point. If you tried to play 4 games in 7 days, your body takes an immense beating. Of course that doesn't cover the the early round bow-outs, but there are few positions in sport than can single handily change the outcome of a series like a goaltender can. I know it seems like the Wings always get buzz sawed...but I can assure you that while the everyday hockey fan might have assumed the Wings ran into a 'hot' goaltender, those that know the game know that going into a series against Calgary and Mikka Kiprusoff, or Anaheim and J.S. Giguire [sic] while being unable to get quality opportunities is a recipe for disaster. Another thing to take into account is most of the teams that beat the Red Wings in the early round come from the Pacific Division, teams like Anaheim, Calgary, and well...Edmonton. Very rarely will a team from the Central get the drop on Detroit because those teams are a known quantity that we see more times a year than other teams. That factor goes a long way in establishing a rhythm in a cup run.

Sure, it's great to assume the Wings should be in contention every year, but thats a little selfish...We aren't the only city with quality teams.

[SCS100]

St. Louis is actually playing quite well against Vancouver. Unfortunately, Roberto Luongo is just that good. Vancouver vs. Detroit could be quite a series if Columbus, St. Louis, and Anaheim all lose.

My assessment so far: (all games from CBC)

Philadelphia is just a sitting duck if they continue to take as many penalties as they have. Last night they were disciplined and still lost, which leads me to believe that they are practically sunk.

Boston should win in 5, but Montreal could make things interesting. Game 1 was a little too close for Boston.

San Jose is in trouble if they play like they did the first game. Anaheim completely owned that game.

St. Louis is in trouble, but still has a chance, since they've managed to keep the first two games close.

The rest:

Barring a hot streak by Mason and some bad luck, Detroit should be fine.

Washington and NY could be interesting, especially since Theodore is looking quite ugly at the moment.

Chicago and Calgary could turn out to be a classic if Kipper manages to stand on his head for 7 games. And anyone else out there think that Cammalleri should've gotten a game or two for that punch on Havlat?

Carolina and New Jersey should also be a battle now that Carolina has woken up.

[Ray1936]

I am totally against octopus cruelty. I suggest we throw Octomom on the ice instead.

[Downriviera]

Pittsburgh beats Philly last night on a 2 man advantage in OT. Both marginal calls. I don't want to see the refs decide the game, let them play. It used to be you had to decapitate someone to get a penalty in overtime in the playoffs, let alone 2 penalties. Bring back the old NHL, this sucks.

[d.mcc]

Washington and NY could be interesting, especially since Theodore is looking quite ugly at the moment.

Chicago and Calgary could turn out to be a classic if Kipper manages to stand on his head for 7 games. And anyone else out there think that Cammalleri should've gotten a game or two for that punch on Havlat?


Jose has a tendancy to be dominant in the regular season and then disappear when the play-offs started. He did it in Montreal, did it in Colorado, doing it in Washington.

As for the Cammalleri shove? Come on...it's hockey SCS...


Pittsburgh beats Philly last night on a 2 man advantage in OT. Both marginal calls. I don't want to see the refs decide the game, let them play. It used to be you had to decapitate someone to get a penalty in overtime in the playoffs, let alone 2 penalties. Bring back the old NHL, this sucks.

Totally agree with you, if you are going to call a penalty in OT, in the playoffs...someone better be bleeding profusely or unconscious

[SCS100]

Dmcc, while it may be hockey and I usually have no problem with stuff like that, it was the fact that Carcillo got a game for the same play against Matt Cooke of Pittsburgh. If Carcillo had gotten away with it, then I wouldn't mind it.

[d.mcc]

Dmcc, while it may be hockey and I usually have no problem with stuff like that, it was the fact that Carcillo got a game for the same play against Matt Cooke of Pittsburgh. If Carcillo had gotten away with it, then I wouldn't mind it.

Maybe Komisarek...but Camilerri didn't do much

[SCS100]

Maybe Komisarek...but Camilerri didn't do much

I dunno, Cammalleri's was a blatant punch to Havlat's head. The one thing this league is terrible at is uniform punishment. As for Komisarek, even the Boston players were saying it was a face wash and it was no big deal.

[ccbatson]

That is a bit harsh...only call a penalty when there is a lot of blood or an acute head injury evident?

[d.mcc]

That is a bit harsh...only call a penalty when there is a lot of blood or an acute head injury evident?

Yes...that is LITERALLY the only circumstance a penalty should be assessed in an overtime period.:rolleyes:

[ccbatson]

According to...???

[d.mcc]

According to...???

The unwritten rule of the NHL...

Do you grasp the concept of sarcasm?

[d.mcc]

I've said it before, and I will say it again:

The only thing that can stop the Sharks, is the play-offs

[smogboy]

I've said it before, and I will say it again:

The only thing that can stop the Sharks, is the play-offs

That and Jonas Hiller. That guys is playing his head off at the moment.

[d.mcc]

No-show Joe and Hop-Along Marleau aren't helping their chances of advancement at the moment either...

[ccbatson]

Sarcasm meaning that it isn't true??...OK.

[Downriviera]

Sharks showing there desperation by inserting Claude 'The Turtle' Lemieux into the lineup.

[ccbatson]

Their desperation, our opportunity?

[Johnlodge]

Is anyone else finding it out of place yet refreshing that the Wings actually have a series taking place entirely in the eastern time zone? One of these days they just need to move Detroit to the east already. I guess I should enjoy it while I can since we are on a collision course with back to back west coast teams if things keep going like they are.

Very refreshing, considering the Tigers are playing all 10:00pm games this week.

[d.mcc]

Is anyone else finding it out of place yet refreshing that the Wings actually have a series taking place entirely in the eastern time zone? One of these days they just need to move Detroit to the east already. I guess I should enjoy it while I can since we are on a collision course with back to back west coast teams if things keep going like they are.

I wouldn't say back to back...Those pesky Blackhawk's with the exception of last nights game have been playing some very good hockey. If it ends up being Detroit v. Anaheim in round two, and Chicago v. Vancouver...Not saying Chicago is the hands down favorite in that series...but

It Could be an all Central Division Western Conference Championship series. That being said, I hope Roberto Luongo gets a cold...

[Downriviera]

Kudos to Fox Sports and CBC for showing the national anthems. Shame on NBC and Versus for not showing them.

[ccbatson]

Yet another piece of evidence that liberals/the liberal media are anti American just like Obama.

[LeannaM]

Blues swept. Bad ending, but a good season. Spectacular season actually. The Blues weren't supposed to make the playoffs. But they did. And I'm certainly proud of them. They've got a good young core. Paul Kariya, Erik Johnson, and DJ King should be back next year. This series was good playoff experience. The rest of the NHL should look out the next 5 years.

I did not enjoy the Vancouver fans. Some were good. Many were just arrogant and annoying, though.

Little off-topic. Blues owner Dave Checketts is working to restore the Keil Opera House. I have to say, the Blues owner is great. You can tell he really cares about the city. I'm looking forward to this team for years to come.

Well, time to watch some baseball and prepare for next year.

[d.mcc]

Yet another piece of evidence that liberals/the liberal media are anti American just like Obama.

Ok...shut the fck up, this is about hockey, not about your cracked out political musings...

Moving on...

St. Louis, see ya later, should have shown up and played the game, but it was good experience for the younger guys. Vancouver and Luongo look very good...scary good.

Wings played exceptional again tonight, 31 saves out of Ozzie is nothing to be scoffed at.

I am personally disappointed in the Flyers, but that might be my burning hatred for all things Cindy Crosby showing through.

.02 seconds?!?!? Man...talk about sense of URGENCY on that shot. Brodeur looks very angry, we'll see how that plays out in game 5.

Anaheim...come on...

[TKshreve]

I am personally disappointed in the Flyers, but that might be my burning hatred for all things Cindy Crosby showing through.


Ya know, I really (for the first time) liked the Bruins last year after watching them in the playoffs. I mean, after benching Kessel all series long and the other injuries that plagued the team into the 2008 playoffs. I feel the same way about the Flyers this year. They have all the makings for a great team, but no execution yet. Watch out for them next year.

I also feel the same way about the penguins.












Let's talk hockey people.

[Downriviera]

I picked STL Blues to upset the Canucks. Had I known there power play would be so inept, I would not have done so. At some point you have to score with a two man advantage. They did get ripped off on that goal being called off last night. I just checked with the situation room at the nhl site, they said the whistle blew before the puck was in. Thats bs, you could clearly hear the whistle after the puck crossed the line on the replay. They say it is the intent of the ref and not the actual whistle, too. It seems to me that with the two ref system these goals get called of more than in the one ref days. That second ref always gets in the way down low too, he's almost like a second defenseman at times. Here I go, voicing my displeasure with the new nhl again. And we thought Hasek was done. Au contraire, he's making a comeback with his Czech team and wants to play in the Olympics. Note to USA olympic players: Shoot high.

[d.mcc]

I was watching the Philly, Pittsburgh game last night when the Flyers were trying to cycle the puck down low in the Pens corner, and for some ungodly reason the the ref skated right into the middle of the cycle and deflected the puck to Sergei Gonchar...

I honestly think sometimes that the NHL does for Cindy, what the NBA does for LeBron and Kobe; Gary Bettman would like nothing more than to see Cindy in the finals again...even if that means a bad one. I would much rather see a Detroit/Boston or Detroit/NJ final than anything else.

[rb336]

I was watching the Philly, Pittsburgh game last night when the Flyers were trying to cycle the puck down low in the Pens corner, and for some ungodly reason the the ref skated right into the middle of the cycle and deflected the puck to Sergei Gonchar...

I honestly think sometimes that the NHL does for Cindy, what the NBA does for LeBron and Kobe; Gary Bettman would like nothing more than to see Cindy in the finals again...even if that means a bad one. I would much rather see a Detroit/Boston or Detroit/NJ final than anything else.

I wanted a wings/caps final, but that doesn't seem likely. I don't see anywhere NEAR the favoritism towards LeBron that they had in the "jordan rules" era. Hell, Jordan could get away with a moe nose pull if he wanted to

[ghettopalmetto]

I, for one, am tired of everyone sucking Cindy Crosby's c*ck. What has he proven on the ice? Ovechkin is far more of a complete player, and the way the young Caps have gelled around him is a testament to his leadership abilities.

Widdle Cindy don't wike it when you thwow him on the boards. But he'll have a HELL of a Pittsburgh molester mustache by the Second Round! Woo.


Bloodstained Gary Bettman: 'I Have Taken The Necessary Measures To Ensure A Crosby-Ovechkin Final'

http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/bloodstained_gary_bettman_i?utm_source=a-section

[jiminnm]

Being here in the hockey wasteland of the high desert, I am relegated to Versus for seeing the Stanley Cup games. They aired Game 1 of the Red Wings and Bluejackets, and that's it. The next scheduled game on Versus is game 5, if the series goes that far. I guess being Stanley Cup champs and having maybe the only nationwide NHL fan base didn't meet their criteria for broadcast.

Has anyone subscribed to the nhl.com package this season? I may have to get that next season.

[d.mcc]

And....Ovie is a better person:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK1yeT1f2jg

[ghettopalmetto]

Being here in the hockey wasteland of the high desert, I am relegated to Versus for seeing the Stanley Cup games. They aired Game 1 of the Red Wings and Bluejackets, and that's it. The next scheduled game on Versus is game 5, if the series goes that far. I guess being Stanley Cup champs and having maybe the only nationwide NHL fan base didn't meet their criteria for broadcast.

Has anyone subscribed to the nhl.com package this season? I may have to get that next season.

If I knew I could get both CBC and Comcast-DC included, I'd get NHL Center Ice. Craig Laughlin, working the Caps games, is the most stellar color commentator south of the border. Maybe next year.... :(

[d.mcc]

Being here in the hockey wasteland of the high desert, I am relegated to Versus for seeing the Stanley Cup games. They aired Game 1 of the Red Wings and Bluejackets, and that's it. The next scheduled game on Versus is game 5, if the series goes that far. I guess being Stanley Cup champs and having maybe the only nationwide NHL fan base didn't meet their criteria for broadcast.

Has anyone subscribed to the nhl.com package this season? I may have to get that next season.

You don't think they are televising the Pens/Flyers series for a reason???

Cindy is a Penguin and a savior of the NHL

[d.mcc]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCJzxatp0sY

[raptor56]

It's not coincidental that the Wings get a lot of no calls and bad calls. Case in point, the game winning penalty shot in the last minutes of the Chicago game at the end of the regular season. Also the couple goals called back on Holmstrom in last year's playoffs that video review showed should not have been called back (coincidentally the same reff both times in 2 different games)

[raptor56]

I'd like to see Stewart knock out Crosby like he did Umberger last night.

[Johnlodge]

I'd like to see Stewart knock out Crosby like he did Umberger last night.

OMG, Stuart cleaned his clock!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6sq816HOK4

Worth another look, or five.

[d.mcc]

Nice little tilt going on in Calgary right now if you guys aren't watching

[raptor56]

Nice little tilt going on in Calgary right now if you guys aren't watching

I saw some highlights of the previous Calgary\Chicago game while at dinner and watching the Boston game. Looked like Calgary was on a checking fest and hitting everyone. Wished I could have seen the entire game.

[d.mcc]

I'd like to see Stewart knock out Crosby like he did Umberger last night.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoc5yoRxoQQ

Close enough for now

[TKshreve]

What's nice is if the Wings finish the Jackets off in 4, then we can sit back and watch the Sharks/Ducks and Hawks/Flames pummel each other for up to 7 games. They will be battle weary when we ge to them.

And if we get the Canucks, I feel pretty good about beating them. It's just - How well will Luongo play?

[smogboy]

What's nice is if the Wings finish the Jackets off in 4, then we can sit back and watch the Sharks/Ducks and Hawks/Flames pummel each other for up to 7 games. They will be battle weary when we ge to them.

And if we get the Canucks, I feel pretty good about beating them. It's just - How well will Luongo play?

Considering that the Canucks never really blew away St. Louis in any of their games, I think Detroit would match up against the Canucks very well. The Blues barely rolled more than 2 1/2 lines against them in offense (Detroit can easily roll three pretty potent lines) and if the Blues PP was even semi-proficient- the games should've been that much closer.

[ccbatson]

Although the downtime might diminish the momentum and focus.

[Bobl]

....and while the crowd cheered, the Boston Bruins quietly destroyed the Habs and discretely awaited their next foe....

[SCS100]

...which will probably be New York in one of the bigger upsets in a while. Unless you predicted Ovie would vanish and the Caps goaltending would absolutely suck.

[d.mcc]

...which will probably be New York in one of the bigger upsets in a while. Unless you predicted Ovie would vanish and the Caps goaltending would absolutely suck.

Suck??? Varlamov has played VERY well for a 20-year old with little starting experience. Kid has given up 3 goals...3

And come on...Do you guys know nothing about hockey??? Lundqvist is one of the best goalies in the NHL, don't think that a goalie can't take a series no matter how good the opposition is, just ask Mikka Kipprusoff, or Guigeire... Or Curtis Joseph, who did it more than once in Toronto, I think those pesky guys in Edmonton have done it as well...

[SCS100]

I was referring to Theodore, Varlamov would be up for Conn Smythe if they were to actually go somewhere. I do not mean to knock Lundqvist at all, but seriously, the Rangers had practically vanished for the most of the season and most of their players were not playing at the level they should have been. If the Caps had a bit more experience and Ovechkin had not vanished, then this might have actually been a series.

[TKshreve]

I was referring to Theodore, Varlamov would be up for Conn Smythe if they were to actually go somewhere. I do not mean to knock Lundqvist at all, but seriously, the Rangers had practically vanished for the most of the season and most of their players were not playing at the level they should have been. If the Caps had a bit more experience and Ovechkin had not vanished, then this might have actually been a series.

SCS makes a good point. NY impressed me once this year. That was with their hot start in Europe. They were way ahead of the league for 20 games and went into protection mode for the last 60. Dubinsky was flash in the pan. Drury had a mediocre season. Zherdev may have been their best player, and he was strong to quite strong fantasy wise.

The Caps sealed it by losing at home twice. I won't fully agree that Alex has been missing, but I could agree that only one goal in five games is uncharacteristic of him. He could pop a hat trick tomorrow for all we know. Hey, upsets happen. Whether the Caps choked, or the Rangers found that early season gel, I will not committ to either reasoning. As always, I will slide out the side door by saying it was a little of both. :D

[SCS100]

Well, Detroit swept, but even I will admit that the last goal was on a botched call by the refs. They could have (and probably should have) let the teams play on instead of calling that penalty. Columbus deserved to lose on a better goal.

Now onto the second round! Go Wings!

[Bobl]

Well, let's hope that Osgood's left leg heals this week!

[Downriviera]

Refs had to make that too many men call. Bone head play on the part of the player coming off the bench and playing the puck when the player he was replacing wasn't even at the bench yet. They teach that in pee wee hockey. I'm no fan of refs these days but they got that one right for sure. Good to see the Wings in a tough game though, its going to get harder next round.

[TKshreve]

I agree. A good call.

It speaks volumes on how the Jackets lost this series. They were destroyed on our power plays. Commodore couldn't keep himself out of the cooler, let alone our bench. They took bad penalties at the worst times and this is just the icing on the cake.

Go Wings!

[ghettopalmetto]

The Caps sealed it by losing at home twice. I won't fully agree that Alex has been missing, but I could agree that only one goal in five games is uncharacteristic of him. He could pop a hat trick tomorrow for all we know. Hey, upsets happen. Whether the Caps choked, or the Rangers found that early season gel, I will not committ to either reasoning. As always, I will slide out the side door by saying it was a little of both. :D

I've been watching both the Caps/Rangers series and the Cavs/Pistons series, and one thing is clear. While the Cavs have a superstar, LeBron has also become a leader, the guy who sets the tone, who the team gels around. Ovie is the Caps' superstar, but he's being too damn quiet to lead. He's happy to lead by example, it seems, and the team is suffering for it. Mike Green? Where the hell ya been, buddy? Can we get some net crashing, please, knowing damn well you're going up against a stud like Lundquist?

And will someone PLEASE find a way to get Sean Avery out of the NHL? The Hanson brothers would be embarrassed of this guy.

[smogboy]

I agree that the call on the Too Many Men on the Ice HAD to be called. That wasn't a judgement call by the refs. It was plain as day. What if there was no call, Commodore had played the puck, headmanned it up to a speedy winger and they would've scored on the Wings because he had an unfair advantage of stepping onto the ice too quickly? That's the flip-side of the coin. The referees made the right call on a very very basic rule that is pretty clear cut and like Downriveira said, it's something taught from a very early age. The smart thing to have done was just not touch the puck, let it go by, wait for his team mate to climb aboard the bench and then go retrieve the puck. There was no pressure on him whatsoever from the Wings at that point.

Hockey's won and lost on boneheaded plays such as this. This time, unfortunately for the Blue Jackets- their number was due.

[d.mcc]

I've been watching both the Caps/Rangers series and the Cavs/Pistons series, and one thing is clear. While the Cavs have a superstar, LeBron has also become a leader, the guy who sets the tone, who the team gels around. Ovie is the Caps' superstar, but he's being too damn quiet to lead. He's happy to lead by example, it seems, and the team is suffering for it. Mike Green? Where the hell ya been, buddy? Can we get some net crashing, please, knowing damn well you're going up against a stud like Lundquist?

And will someone PLEASE find a way to get Sean Avery out of the NHL? The Hanson brothers would be embarrassed of this guy.

GP...

How do you feel about Syd...??? Green has been ok, but there simply isn't enough pressure around the goal mouth to capitalize when Lundqvist makes a mistake of puts a rebound in the slot... Semin needs to get off his horse

[smogboy]

My apologies to Mike Commodore. He wasn't the Blue Jacket that stepped out on the ice and played the puck. It was Fredrik Modin. My bad.

[SCS100]

As everyone has said, it was the right call, as much as I would have not liked to have seen it end that way. HNIC did say that it was a botched play though, as someone hit it with a high stick beforehand. Whatever, I'm not complaining, Mason never really got hot, thankfully. Looking forward to the next round of action (and hoping for a Wings-Bruins final!)

[d.mcc]

Can I again say how well and poised Varlamov has played???? Anyone????

Caps and Rangers is going to go 7 games.

Sharks are about to get knocked out

Calgary and Chicago is a good Series

I think Carolina and NJ will go 7 too

Am I missing anyone?

Oh yeah, Cindy, the first female captain of the NHL, Will have to play all 7 against Richards and the Flyers.

[Bobl]

...The whispers, nearly imperceptible at first, became more clear. A few began to notice. Soon, after the next round, the whispers were replaced by a chant: "Bruins are coming. The Bruins are coming..."
And Don Cherry paid a visit to his tailor.

[d.mcc]

Philly up 2-0!

[SCS100]

And quickly blowing a 3 goal lead I might add...

3-2 now.

[d.mcc]

And quickly blowing a 3 goal lead I might add...

3-2 now.

Gonna be a bumpy one

[SCS100]

Philly is shooting itself in the foot with all these penalties...

That's the one thing that will kill them.

[d.mcc]

"According to Rangers trainer Jim Ramsay, one patron was screaming at the team, in graphic language, about whether defencemen Dan Girardi and Marc Staal have a sexual relationship,"

[d.mcc]

Wings v. Ducks

Hawks v. 'Nucks

Anyone have any insight? I know I have mine, but I will wait to see what others think.

[SCS100]

Vancouver is simply too good for the Hawks, and I wouldn't be willing to bet against Luongo at the moment. As for the Wings, barring a San Jose-esque fiasco, I think that they will ultimately prevail, although it may be a longer series than we'd like. It's certainly going to be very physical.

Predictions:
Wings in 6
'Nucks in 6

If those series result in a Wings-Canucks Conference Final, I am definitely buying tickets. That's going to be a great series if it happens.

[d.mcc]

Vancouver is simply too good for the Hawks, and I wouldn't be willing to bet against Luongo at the moment. As for the Wings, barring a San Jose-esque fiasco, I think that they will ultimately prevail, although it may be a longer series than we'd like. It's certainly going to be very physical.

Predictions:
Wings in 6
'Nucks in 6

If the result of those series is a Wings-Canucks Conference Final, I am definitely buying tickets. That's going to be a great series if it happens.

My turn.

Detroit v. Anaheim. Jonas Hiller had his coming out party against the Sharks. This is definitely NOT the same Ducks team that played throughout the season, as they they are 18-4-1 in their last 23 games including the playoffs and regular season. That being said, the only reason the Ducks were able to run the Sharks is simply because they match up better with the style of hockey played by San Jose. San Jose doesn't like to run big forwards to the net, and seem to prefer a perimeter game that calls for the point men to control the tempo of the offense. These works beautiful if you can control the puck, not to mention if you can put bodies in front of the tender. SJ failed to do this, at least as far as getting men in front of the net consistently. When they did this though, they were successful. Detroit will attack Hiller and force him to work laterally as well as vertically. He takes away the bottom of the net beautifully, but makes the first move constantly putting his pads on the ice limiting his ability to move side to side as efficiently as say Mason or Luongo. Hiller hasn't faced a team that moves the puck as well as the Red Wings do, and this should open up numerous options to create scoring chances. In the Duck's defense, they are an experienced team with strong puck carrying defencemen. Pronger is always a threat, and one cannot discount Perry, Wisnewski, and Getzlaf. This should be a great series if Osgood can remain serviceable.

Detroit in 6 Games.

Chicago v. Vancouver Luongo. Vancouver's primary weapon in this series without a doubt. While the Canucks can put the puck in the net, Chicago has been beautiful in limiting prolific scores like Iginla. I believe the X-Factor in this series will be Khabibulin. He was absolutely stellar in the last 3 games against the Flames. Chicago is young, but has some veteran leaders keeping things in perspective in the Windy City. Kane, Toews, and Versteeg are all players to be taken very seriously, and I simply don't think Vancouver can match up well after somewhat easily skating through St. Louis. Chicago is going to play the Canucks at a much higher tempo, not to mention physical pace than the Blues could muster up. If the Blackhawks that won games 5 and 6 show up, this could be a very one sided series. If not, expect it to be tight, possibly going the distance.

Chicago in 7 games.

[TKshreve]

Wings v. Ducks

Hawks v. 'Nucks

Anyone have any insight? I know I have mine, but I will wait to see what others think.


Wings keys to the game:

Neutralize the Ducks top line of Ryan/Getzlaf/Perry.
Get pucks to the net. We need to pepper Hiller and capitalize on any rebounds he gives up. We need to average 40+ shots a game (like SJ) to get the puck by him. He's playing well right now. We need to reverse that like we did with Mason.
Osgood needs to simply play consistently. And if he's hurt.... know when to put in Ty.
Unleash Hossa. He is hungry and wants to win. He is coming off a 2-goal game. Give him minutes and PP time.
Discipline. Don't take dumb penaties. The Ducks will take several penalties and if we can stay out of the box, our PP should give us another leg up on the series.
Roll all four lines. We are stronger when we consistently ice our entire bench.

[d.mcc]

Not to mention finish better at the end of the game because we are CAPABLE of rolling all four lines.

[SCS100]

Whoever wins the other series and if the Wings survive another upset bid, I look forward to the Conference Finals. Another Original Six matchup never hurts either... ;)

[d.mcc]

Whoever wins the other series and if the Wings survive another upset bid, I look forward to the Conference Finals. Another Original Six matchup never hurts either... ;)

Could Very well be Detroit v. Chicago and NY v. Boston

[SCS100]

Boston and NY would play each other next round if NY beats Washington under the way the NHL playoffs work. Now Pitt v. Boston I could see, which would be intriguing cause I would love to see Crosby face Chara. Best final possible would definitely be Detroit v. Boston.

[Downriviera]

Just watched the Caps knock out the Rangers on Versus. Can't believe Versus can't show the 3rd period of game 7 NJ vs Carolina. This would not have happened in the espn days. Game not on CBC either. So at least I watched it online. Unreal come from behind win for canes, down a goal with about 1 1/2 minutes to go and they score 2 goals on Brodeur to take the series. And wait till you see the replay of local boy Timmy Gleason's assist on the tying goal, a playoff highlight for years to come.

[d.mcc]

The Devils had another Downriver Native on their team. I used to play against him back in my day.

[ghettopalmetto]

Just watched the Caps knock out the Rangers on Versus. Can't believe Versus can't show the 3rd period of game 7 NJ vs Carolina. This would not have happened in the espn days. Game not on CBC either. So at least I watched it online. Unreal come from behind win for canes, down a goal with about 1 1/2 minutes to go and they score 2 goals on Brodeur to take the series. And wait till you see the replay of local boy Timmy Gleason's assist on the tying goal, a playoff highlight for years to come.

Where I was watching, Versus cut to the Carolina/NJ game after the Caps/Rangers finished. What a ridiculous comeback. If Carolina can score two goals in 80 seconds to win the game, they deserve to move on. That's what championship hockey is all about.

I'm just excited the Caps will have at least 4 games to make Cindy Crosby cry. Verizon Center needs to start selling Kleenex to throw on the ice.

[d.mcc]

I'm just excited the Caps will have at least 4 games to make Cindy Crosby cry. Verizon Center needs to start selling Kleenex to throw on the ice.

I present to you...a series of images:

http://thehockeywriters.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/crosbythecrybaby1-300x225.jpg

http://www.bpwtf.org/files/page0_blog_entry1_3.gif

https://s3.amazonaws.com/cs-edmontonjournal/CommunityServer.Components.PostAttachments/00/00/20/75/93/CryingCrosby.jpg-341x244.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0TTXDM86AJ1CB68A7P02&Expires=1241032445&Signature=UUxXyfLo%2btdlkTTYAXLgcbdEQT0%3d

[rb336]

Boston and NY would play each other next round if NY beats Washington under the way the NHL playoffs work. Now Pitt v. Boston I could see, which would be intriguing cause I would love to see Crosby face Chara. Best final possible would definitely be Detroit v. Boston.

i think the most entertaining would be D vs Washington

[Downriviera]

Where I was watching, Versus cut to the Carolina/NJ game after the Caps/Rangers finished. What a ridiculous comeback. If Carolina can score two goals in 80 seconds to win the game, they deserve to move on. That's what championship hockey is all about.

I'm just excited the Caps will have at least 4 games to make Cindy Crosby cry. Verizon Center needs to start selling Kleenex to throw on the ice.

Versus cut to the NJ/Carolina game here after the Rangers/Caps for about 2 minutes, then the studio host came on and said due to contractual obligations that could not show the rest of the game. You kidding me. Its game 7 tied at 2 goals in the third and they can't show it? Where were you that Versus showed the rest of the game?

[Bobl]

That is a bit harsh...only call a penalty when there is a lot of blood or an acute head injury evident?

You liberals are all alike.....
LOL
:)

[raptor56]

so much for a rematch of 1995. NJ got bounced by the Canes on, of all things, a bad goal by Brodeur.

[SCS100]

Yes, but assuming we make it and Boston loses, we can either have a rematch of '98, '02, or '08. Think of the possibilities! :)

[d.mcc]

so much for a rematch of 1995. NJ got bounced by the Canes on, of all things, a bad goal by Brodeur.

In Marty's defense...thats a tougher shot to stop than people make it out to be...I am sick to death of hearing that referred to as a "soft" goal. Left handed shooter on the glove side working towards the bottom of the circle, you have to play that perfectly to position yourself to make a save. You certainly need to pick and choose what you want to take away, and if you look at the goals...they had to tuck BOTH shots inside the post, Marty set himself up for the save, give the shooters all the credit in the world, those were beautiful shots... If you can't tell...I was a tender lol

[d.mcc]

And don't forget, the Wings get to faceoff against what I consider the finest facial hair in all of hockey. None other than George Parros, has a very close resemblance to Mike Tyson’s Punchout opponent Von Kaiser!

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/04/11/sports/11ducks.1.600.jpg

SEE!

http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/7673/407058-von_kaiser_large.jpg

*edited to include image proving my point*

[Downriviera]

Agreed, those were great shots, as was Federov's snipe. I love playing the off wing, lots of options, and when you cut to the net you're on the forehand. Out riding my bike this afternoon, went by the Allen Park Arena, saw the Ducks getting off the bus for practice.

[d.mcc]

I spent a lot of time in that Arena...4 years worth...

[Downriviera]

So you played for AP High. They had their first team the year after I graduated. Boy was I pissed. My junior team ended up playing against them that year, talk about motivation. Playing at AP Arena in front of all the teachers I despised. It was like Slap Shot, there was a bounty on my head. They spent so much time trying to run me, they forgot about playing the game. We smoked em 8-2, I had a hat trick. Did end up fighting one guy at the end, my knuckles are still scarred from the braces on his teeth.

[d.mcc]

So you played for AP High. They had their first team the year after I graduated. Boy was I pissed. My junior team ended up playing against them that year, talk about motivation. Playing at AP Arena in front of all the teachers I despised. It was like Slap Shot, there was a bounty on my head. They spent so much time trying to run me, they forgot about playing the game. We smoked em 8-2, I had a hat trick. Did end up fighting one guy at the end, my knuckles are still scarred from the braces on his teeth.

Never said I LIVED in Allen Park...

[Downriviera]

Gotcha. At any rate, AP still has the best ice surface around, lighting is poor though. Looking forward to Hawks vs Canucks tonight.

[d.mcc]

Gotcha. At any rate, AP still has the best ice surface around, lighting is poor though. Looking forward to Hawks vs Canucks tonight.

I played for the OTHER AP High School team back in it's prime. But yeah, I always thought it was some of the best ice I ever skated on

[raptor56]

I'm kind of surprised the Ducks are practicing at Allen Park and not City Arena, which is much closer tot he Joe. Any idea which hotel they are staying at?

[Downriviera]

They're staying in Dearborn, either the Hyatt or Ritz.

[TKshreve]

Gotcha. At any rate, AP still has the best ice surface around, lighting is poor though. Looking forward to Hawks vs Canucks tonight.


Troy and Liggett have very nice ice rinks as well.

Never been to AP. Apparently it's all the rave.

[d.mcc]

Troy and Liggett have very nice ice rinks as well.

Never been to AP. Apparently it's all the rave.

It's the bee's knees...

I would say I have skated on that surface at least...450 times in a 4 year span

[Downriviera]

When they first opened the AP rink, if I didn't have a game or practice, I'd go there around midnight on a Friday or Saturday Night and skate till 6am with the different groups of older guys who rented the ice for pickup games. There weren't many rinks around then so those were the only times they could get. It was good practice for me because these guys would hold and hack me, anything to stop me. Then I would go to the Nugget on Southfield road for steak and eggs, then home to sleep. Now I'm one of the old guys hacking the kids.

[Bobl]

Ray1936:
My son will be at the Mystic, on Boulder Hwy, in his Red Wing jersey tomorrow, to watch the playoff game. After a few months of unemployment, followed by a couple months of underemployment, he has landed a good job.
Now, it's time for dad to find good employment in Detroit......
Go Wings!!

[Ray1936]

Makes me awful glad to be retired and not have to worry about the job search thing, Bobl. Anyway, we'll watch the game at home. We have the NHL season package on cable.

[SCS100]

If Chicago doesn't get better quick, that series is gonna be over within 5 games...

Too bad, it should be a bit closer right now.

[d.mcc]

When they first opened the AP rink, if I didn't have a game or practice, I'd go there around midnight on a Friday or Saturday Night and skate till 6am with the different groups of older guys who rented the ice for pickup games. There weren't many rinks around then so those were the only times they could get. It was good practice for me because these guys would hold and hack me, anything to stop me. Then I would go to the Nugget on Southfield road for steak and eggs, then home to sleep. Now I'm one of the old guys hacking the kids.

Um...what about Ted's???

[Bobl]

We rented ice at Gordie Howe's Hockeyland, on Harper in SCS late nights while in high school. One day, many of us were sent to the counselor following one of those nights of hockey. Apparently, our appearance was not good after staying up most of the night, and teachers suspected drug use!

By the way, Mr Howe's wrist was bigger than my leg....

[Downriviera]

Um...what about Ted's???

This was long before Ted's. Ted's is where the Nugget used to be. I played at Gordie Howe Hockeyland. I remember there was no glass on the sides, I checked a kid and he went over and landed on some of the parents. I can vouch for Gordie's wrists, when he shook your hand, you felt it.

[Bobl]

Wings and Ducks both looked good tonight. Wings might hav gotten a break on penalties. The difference: We have Lidstrom and they don't!

[Downriviera]

Just watched the Brown hit on Hudler in slo-mo, it was clearly an elbow. My problem with it is the hard plastic elbow pads that are used these days. Its like getting hit with a brick. Ban the hard plastic and go back to the foam padding. There will be a lot less concussions.

[d.mcc]

Excellent game today. I always ALWAYS enjoy watching Cindy Crosby and her gang of loveable misfits come up short in big pressure situations. Gotta hand it to that girl though, she does a commendable job playing in a men's league.

[Downriviera]

And how bout Varlamov's highlight reel save on Crosby. If Sid is so great why doesn't he roof that shot.

[Downriviera]

Sid's never been good in big pressure situations. He got schooled by Corey Perry and the London Knights in the Memorial Cup final a few years ago.

[ccbatson]

Ouch, tonight's' triple overtime nail biter proves that this series is not going to be easy.

[ghettopalmetto]

Excellent game today. I always ALWAYS enjoy watching Cindy Crosby and her gang of loveable misfits come up short in big pressure situations. Gotta hand it to that girl though, she does a commendable job playing in a men's league.

I have to say, Cindy did a helluva job hanging out in front of the net tonight, waiting for something to happen while his teammates busted their asses. Now, if Mike Green can just realize when the puck hits him in the chin, and then learn to clear it.

The Pens are going to have to bring more than Crosby if they expect to come back against the Caps.

[d.mcc]

I have to say, Cindy did a helluva job hanging out in front of the net tonight, waiting for something to happen while his teammates busted their asses. Now, if Mike Green can just realize when the puck hits him in the chin, and then learn to clear it.

The Pens are going to have to bring more than Crosby if they expect to come back against the Caps.

OVIE! OVIE! OVIE! OVIE!

Cindy is just saving her energy for when she's on her back

[ghettopalmetto]

OVIE! OVIE! OVIE! OVIE!

Cindy is just saving her energy for when she's on her back

The way the Pens are playing defense and using all their energy in the first period, Cindy's gonna be on his back on a golf course pretty soon. Should've been a 4-2 game, but a 2-man advantage helped create just enough traffic to get that last slop goal for P'burg.

Given that two of Cindy's three goals last night were swats out of mid-air, maybe he should play baseball? I mean, there's a lot less in the way of those tear-inducing bodily collisions. Just don't ask Cindy to make a mad dash to score when the outfielder throws the ball in to the catcher to tag him out.

[d.mcc]

The way the Pens are playing defense and using all their energy in the first period, Cindy's gonna be on his back on a golf course pretty soon. Should've been a 4-2 game, but a 2-man advantage helped create just enough traffic to get that last slop goal for P'burg.

Given that two of Cindy's three goals last night were swats out of mid-air, maybe he should play baseball? I mean, there's a lot less in the way of those tear-inducing bodily collisions. Just don't ask Cindy to make a mad dash to score when the outfielder throws the ball in to the catcher to tag him out.

If the MLB is anything like the NHL, they would move 3rd base to 12 feet from home plate when she is on base, so all she has to do is trot in on fly balls. Gotta protect the star, who may not even be in the top five overall talented players in the League.

1. Ovie
2. Pavs
3. Malkin
4. Hossa
5. Zetterberg
6. Cindy

[ghettopalmetto]

If the MLB is anything like the NHL, they would move 3rd base to 12 feet from home plate when she is on base, so all she has to do is trot in on fly balls. Gotta protect the star, who may not even be in the top five overall talented players in the League.

1. Ovie
2. Pavs
3. Malkin
4. Hossa
5. Zetterberg
6. Cindy


Here's the other thing I've been thinking about. Follow this sequence from last night's Caps/Penguins game, and tell me which part doesn't make sense:

1. Crosby shoots the puck at the side of the net.
2. Crosby gets his own rebound off the side of the net.
3. Crosby shoots at side of net again, but Mike Green is in the way. Puck bobbles of Mike Green's chin, down his sweater, and back to Crosby.
4. Crosby shoots at side of net a third time. Puck is deflected into the air.
5. With about 10 guys in front of the net, Crosby swings stick above waist level, batting puck into goal.

[Johnlodge]

This VS shit is seriously getting on my nerves. The NHL Playoffs should not be on obscure crap channels. I have WOW cable, and VS. is a specialty channel I would have to pay more for, and refuse to because it is not even offered in HD. I already pay for basic/digital/all the HD channels, and there's not one other useful channel in the package VS is included with. I was lucky the other night that we live close enough to canada that CBC is included in my cable package, but I don't get that in HD either.

[d.mcc]

Here's the other thing I've been thinking about. Follow this sequence from last night's Caps/Penguins game, and tell me which part doesn't make sense:

1. Crosby shoots the puck at the side of the net.
2. Crosby gets his own rebound off the side of the net.
3. Crosby shoots at side of net again, but Mike Green is in the way. Puck bobbles of Mike Green's chin, down his sweater, and back to Crosby.
4. Crosby shoots at side of net a third time. Puck is deflected into the air.
5. With about 10 guys in front of the net, Crosby swings stick above waist level, batting puck into goal.

My guess would be the lack of PASSING

[ghettopalmetto]

My guess would be the lack of PASSING

Also, an uncalled high-sticking. You can't just whack at a puck in mid-air when in the vicinity of 10 other skaters. The goal (and the hat trick) should have been disallowed.

[Johnlodge]

Also, an uncalled high-sticking. You can't just whack at a puck in mid-air when in the vicinity of 10 other skaters. The goal (and the hat trick) should have been disallowed.

If someone came near Crosby with a stick that high, he'd go flying backwards on the ice sobbing.

[d.mcc]

If someone came near Crosby with a stick that high, he'd go flying backwards on the ice sobbing.

Why does everyone refer to Cindy as a he??? I'm sure that does nothing but add to her confusion, what with all the whiskers that sprout all over her face after 2 months of not shaving...

[ghettopalmetto]

Why does everyone refer to Cindy as a he??? I'm sure that does nothing but add to her confusion, what with all the whiskers that sprout all over her face after 2 months of not shaving...

Ovechkin only wishes he could hit the side of the net three shots in a row like Cindy does.

Here's Cindy's latest complaint: HATS.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2009/05/crosby_objects_to_hats_on_ice.html


Of course, Gary "Spooge Towel" Bettman can't be bothered to enforce things like, ya know, rules, if it means the Princess of Nova Scotia gets a hat trick:

Pittsburgh Penguins (http://penguins.nhl.com/) wing Chris Kunitz (http://www.nhl.com/ice/player.htm?id=8470543) will not be suspended by the NHL for his late-game hit to the neck area of Capitals goalie Simeon Varlamov (http://www.nhl.com/ice/player.htm?id=8473575) seconds before Sidney Crosby (http://www.nhl.com/ice/player.htm?id=8471675) scored his third goal of Game 2 with 30.4 seconds left in the third period.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=421557

To summarize: using your stick as a weapon to score an irrelevant goal and boost Cindy on the stat sheet: OK.

Fans throwing hats on the ice to celebrate a hat trick: Disgraceful.

[d.mcc]

Meanwhile, we're still sans Rafalski and Drapes...whats up with that???

[ccbatson]

It is hockey, and the game is done, it will not be altered...dwelling on unfairness is not constructive when it comes to winning the next game. Learn from what happened to your advantage the next time.

[Downriviera]

Why isn't Ville Leino playing. He looked really good when he was in the lineup. I think he's better than Kopecky and Fillpula.

[d.mcc]

GRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Worst officiating I have seen in some time. Kronwal's hooking, and Stuart's "interference", which lead to the game-winning goal mind you, were HORRIBLE calls. Don't even get me started on the no-goal.

And I would like to be the first to officially lash out at Mary Anne Hossa. IF YOU WANT TO PLAY WITHOUT PASSION, GO BACK TO PITTSBURGH. How many f'n times do you have to wave your purse at players?! How many times growing up did you ever get praised for stick-checking??? NEVER! No back checking, no fore checking, weak ass defensive zone play, and horrible movement in the offensive zone. Bust his ass down to the 4th line with Malts and Kopecky, and put Helm on the first line. At least he seems to give a damn and plays with 110% every time he is on the ice. Hossa looks like piss.

I want Rafalski back, because I am done defending Chelios. Chris...for pete's sake, TAKE A PENALTY! No one is going to question you if you hook Selanne!

[Downriviera]

Well that was the worst call in the playoffs I've seen since they allowed the Henri Richard goal where he batted the puck past Roger Crozier with his glove in OT at the Olympia in 66, winning the cup for the Habs. I was just a little kid then and I was crying. All grown up now but I was crying last night too. You're right about Cheli, he has to take Selanne down on that play because he's automatic on the breakaway.

[Sstashmoo]

Worst officiating in a game, ever. String of inaccurate and missed calls, some gross errors. The waived off goal was really disappointing. Blatantly wrong. No whistle, nothing, just waved it off. One or two of those refs were not qualified to ref peewee league.

And how about those Anaheim fans boo'ing their own team? I'm glad I don't live out there.

[Sstashmoo]

Quote: "Hossa looks like piss."

He got the "waived" goal. End of second and definitely the third, the wings were on.

Hiller made 47 saves last night, they didn't lose because of poor game play.

[raptor56]

I've noticed the last two games, refs have been turning a blind eye to blatant tripping and interference calls. It's allowing the Ducks to play like goons. They hack, hit, and trip Wings all over the place with no repercussions.

Wings however need to start playing with 3rd period intensity the whole game, like they did in Columbus. This regular season style of play where you phone it in for the first two periods, then bring it on in the 3rd is not going to work.

[d.mcc]

Quote: "Hossa looks like piss."

He got the "waived" goal. End of second and definitely the third, the wings were on.

Hiller made 47 saves last night, they didn't lose because of poor game play.

Hossa has been non-existent, I don't care if he scored a goal that doesn't count.

Hiller making 47 saves is the equivalent of Ozzie making 25. How many saves does he really have to work for? Not many, when I played I loooooooved teams like the Red Wings in the series, simply because I could stay in one spot and challenge the shooter vertically without having to worry about lateral puck movement. If you want to challenge a 6'2 goalie vertically, be my guest, he'll win that battle ALL day. On the other hand, if you want to challenge a 6'2 goalie who when he moves side to side, does so on his knees, lifting his stick up everytime he parts his legs to move...well then...be my guest. I counted 19 shots that went DIRECTLY into Hiller's chest. Really pressuring him by shooting it at him

[raptor56]

Hossa has been non-existent, I don't care if he scored a goal that doesn't count.

Hiller making 47 saves is the equivalent of Ozzie making 25. How many saves does he really have to work for? Not many, when I played I loooooooved teams like the Red Wings in the series, simply because I could stay in one spot and challenge the shooter vertically without having to worry about lateral puck movement. If you want to challenge a 6'2 goalie vertically, be my guest, he'll win that battle ALL day. On the other hand, if you want to challenge a 6'2 goalie who when he moves side to side, does so on his knees, lifting his stick up everytime he parts his legs to move...well then...be my guest. I counted 19 shots that went DIRECTLY into Hiller's chest. Really pressuring him by shooting it at him


I agree 100%! I was commenting to my girlfriend while watching the game that half these shots were right at his chest or near glove side with no screen and not on a quick one timer. After watching games for 10 years, I'd venture to guess 85% of high school hockey goalies in Michigan could have made those saves.

[Downriviera]

If I'm the coach, I start the reunited line of Z, Pavel and Homer in game 4. Team needs a spark, this could be it.

[d.mcc]

If I'm the coach, I start the reunited line of Z, Pavel and Homer in game 4. Team needs a spark, this could be it.

Look who was spot on! Except I really feel the best move was putting Hossa and Franzen together. It seems like a no brainer it's almost crazy it wasn't done earlier. Especially if Randy wants to put Getzlaf and Bobby Ryan out there. I will take that match-up all-day

[Downriviera]

Nice job by Kopecky using his face to mess up Beuchemin's hand. At least he got him off the ice for 5 mins, talk about taking one for the team. So now he's out, bring on Ville Leino.

[Ray1936]

Some line changes are out of hand. Last night after a long stoppage of play, there was a faceoff, Detroit shot it down into Ducks ice, and changed lines five seconds after the puck was dropped.

Other times, they seem to make changes at very inopportune times. Just my hunch.

[d.mcc]

Nice job by Kopecky using his face to mess up Beuchemin's hand. At least he got him off the ice for 5 mins, talk about taking one for the team. So now he's out, bring on Ville Leino.

No sir...ABDELKADER!

[Downriviera]

Abdelkader is a good choice, should bring a physical presence. Ducks just got off the ice at Allen Park Arena. Closed practice.

[TKshreve]

What a breath of fresh air.

The wings have been hit and miss this series vs. the Ducks. Sunday is the team I am used to seeing. Very disciplined and a focus on puck control/shots on goal. During almost 10 minutes of the 2nd period, we didn't leave their zone. It was great to watch.



If I'm the coach, I start the reunited line of Z, Pavel and Homer in game 4. Team needs a spark, this could be it.

^^ When did Mike Babcock join the forums? :p

[Downriviera]

^^Ha Ha^^ I'm no Babcock but I did coach mites through bantams so I suppose that makes me an expert. I had to get out when the parents started driving me insane. I wonder if any of the Wings players parents complain to Babcock about their sons ice time.

[d.mcc]

^^Ha Ha^^ I'm no Babcock but I did coach mites through bantams so I suppose that makes me an expert. I had to get out when the parents started driving me insane. I wonder if any of the Wings players parents complain to Babcock about their sons ice time.

Hudler's probably. I wonder if Chelios tells Babs to respect his elders...

[TKshreve]

Big game tonight.

I am psyched for the action.

Early prediction: Star of the game...... Chris Osgood.

[Bobl]

A storybook ending to this game would be a winning goal by McCarty...or Chelios. Mind your elders!

[d.mcc]

A storybook ending to this game would be a winning goal by McCarty...or Chelios. Mind your elders!

I truly hope that McCarty does not come close to stepping foot on the ice. He really brings nothing to the table anymore. He has no legs and can't fore check hard enough to put any real pressure on defenders looking to break the puck out. He floats in the neutral zone because he doesn't have the ability to change direction fast to anticipate puck movement any longer, and the same can be said for the defensive zone where he becomes a major liability that only forces his line mates into higher pressure situations.

[Downriviera]

^^You just described how I play these days in the senior beer leagues^^

[d.mcc]

^^You just described how I play these days in the senior beer leagues^^

That's fine and dandy for Beer Leagues like a Senior C or what have you, but that cannot and should not fly in the NHL. I don't care what emotional attachment the city has with a player. Especially one as bad as McCarty. When I went to the game vs. Tampa down here, I got into quite a few arguments over why D-Mac had no business being in the NHL

[ccbatson]

One can never tell for sure, but it looks like we have the momentum going for us now.

[Bobl]

Neidermeier's (sp?) elbow on Datsyuk was far more vicious and deliberate than the elbow from Holmstrom that was described as "gutless" by a Duck player in an earlier game.
Enough said. Let it go, and let the players determine the outcome of game seven!

[Downriviera]

I got the game 7 jitters. I'll be fine once the puck drops, but till then its best I stay away from everybody.

[14509glenfield]

Yes...........

[Ray1936]

Jesus. I'm limp.

Now for a great series with the Black Hawks! Detroit in 6.

[ccbatson]

They just are not going to make this easy, are they?? Oh well, I don't suppose that is really what fans want anyway.

[Downriviera]

They beat the Ducks, but more importantly, they beat the refs, too.

[Sstashmoo]

The Darren Helm goal was phenomenal, looked like Federov or Coffey. The Redwings' talent is on every string. Quite a game. Anaheim is dirty playing team, good to see them go down.

[rb336]

as a Chicagoland native, i'm looking forward to this series. may the winner take the cup (pref. Wings!)

[gibran]

I guess we all can breathe a little easier now...Chicago and Wings ...time to get the O2 again...

[ccbatson]

The obvious team rivalry, plus the perceived rivalry between the 2 cities....excellent.

[Downriviera]

Those Black Hawks have a strange goal scoring celebration.

1241

[TKshreve]

those black hawks have a strange goal scoring celebration.

1241



priceless :d

[Ray1936]

God, I hate overtime games. But this one ended up beautifully with that 3-1 break for a score.

I don't think the Wings will sweep, though. Chicago will be tough at home.

[d.mcc]

God, I hate overtime games. But this one ended up beautifully with that 3-1 break for a score.

I don't think the Wings will sweep, though. Chicago will be tough at home.

Wings in 5. Even when we aren't playing our best hockey, we find a way to win. That's what a champion does. From the looks of the Eastern Conference finals...We might see a rematch. There hasn't been a rematch for Lord Stanleys Challenge Cup in at least 25 years.

[jiminnm]

This is an interesting article about the Stanley Cup itself.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124286389284341325.html

[d.mcc]

This is an interesting article about the Stanley Cup itself.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124286389284341325.html

I actually think the misspellings, the cross-hatching, and tick marks are part of what make the cup so unique. No other trophy in American major sport has the history that the Stanley Cup does.

[ccbatson]

Ugly, or pretty...a win is a win. Sweeps are what we wish for, but truly good games aren't sweeps and lopsided affairs.

[d.mcc]

Ugly, or pretty...a win is a win. Sweeps are what we wish for, but truly good games aren't sweeps and lopsided affairs.

I don't think we're going to see a sweep in either series. Chicago is looking a lot like Pittsburgh did last year. They look out of place, confused, lost, and their best efforts are being thwarted by experience. Look for the Hawks to fight hard tonight, play physical to wear the Wings down, and take one at home. If Chicago is going to trip up their older brother, it would be in game 3. Their backs aren't against the wall yet, but they are on the ropes taking body shots, and one more punch to the liver could put them on the ground. Kane is going to wake up one of these days. We can only hope Hossa and Holmstrom find their rhythm tonight and find the back of the twine. The Wings can't keep relying on Cleary and Samuelson to carry the weight while the rest of the team tries to keep up.

[ccbatson]

I agree, although it is anxiety producing to watch...in hindsight, these are the memorable games/series.

[d.mcc]

I agree, although it is anxiety producing to watch...in hindsight, these are the memorable games/series.

The one thing I notice, is that when the Wings win games...its by 2+, when they lose, they are ALWAYS 1 goal games. That is worth mentioning...

[ccbatson]

Perhaps "often" is a better descriptor, than "always".

[d.mcc]

Perhaps "often" is a better descriptor, than "always".

I was referring to the playoffs bats. The Wings haven't lost by more than 1 goal in each loss.

[ccbatson]

But in overtime..and they won in overtime (by 1) as well.

[d.mcc]

Violent or not, that hit did NOT warrant a 5:00 minute major, and certainly did not warrant a game misconduct

[Bobl]

Well, looks like the penalty parade has commenced.
Gotta get the revenues up, eh? More games, more cash.
Major to Kronwall was ridiculous. Neither ref had his arm up. When a player has the puck, he is fair game.....unless it is from behind.
Let the players decide the outcome.

[d.mcc]

Well, looks like the penalty parade has commenced.
Gotta get the revenues up, eh? More games, more cash.
Major to Kronwall was ridiculous. Neither ref had his arm up. When a player has the puck, he is fair game.....unless it is from behind.
Let the players decide the outcome.

Bufflin (i'm not even going to bother looking up his name) should have gotten a GM too...Kroner's hit was LEGAL

[d.mcc]

I got into it with a Hawks fan on a hockey message board...thought I would share...

Hawks Fan:
Are you for real? What cheap shot? Hmm..could it be the what, 5, 6th high stick to Kane's face? Or the match penalty intent-to-injure sucker check on Havlat? Are your guys that afraid to face the Hawks on even terms? It appears so.

Yours truly:
Better put down the booze there fella? You ever played hockey? Can you skate? Do you know the rules? Double-Minor on Clearly should have been ONE minor, as doubles or majors are assessed when blood is drawn or there is clear intent. As for the "sucker-check" let me; a 21 year vet of hockey up to the Junior and College level, not to mention a ref for 15 years, break it down for you. The pass was in Havlat's feet, while you may not consider that possession, the rule book does. Kronwall had both feet on the ice when contact was initiated and drove his...and get ready for this...SHOULDER into Marty's chest/jaw. That is what we in the hockey-world call a text-book body check. Had Havlat taken the time to look up, as he was warned by his own bench, it would have been just another highlight real check.

Sorry brother, that's just the way the chips fall. It's a contact sport, we're allowed to start checking in Pee-Wee...ya know..11-12 year olds, and when you get to that level, the first thing that you are taught is to keep your head up so you don't get pasted. As for facing the Hawks on even terms, Detroit has done that, and holds the edge in the series.

So again, call the Wings classless all you want, but if you wanted to beat us on even terms, you wouldn't have had a 13:00-2:00 minute advantage on the power play in the first period. Yeah, it's difficult to establish a rhythm in a game where you are rarely at full-strength.

Yeah, the Wings are classless. Tell that to guys like 6-time Norris winning Nick Lidstrom, or reigning Lady Byng winner Pavel Datsyuk. I'm sure Zetterberg thinks the Wings are classless, not to mention all those crazy fabricated national stories about how the Red Wings are a model SPORTS FRANCHISE. Whatever, you had your win. See you Sunday at 3:00

[Downriviera]

According to the new rules, it was an illegal hit. He did not touch the puck, even though it was a mere centimeter from his skate. The new rule is a joke, as are many of the other new rules. I've said it before, the real problem is with the hard shell plastic body armor thats worn these days for shoulder and elbow pads. Go back to the softer foam pads. Reminds me of when ex Boston Bruins defenseman Ted Green was coaching. One of his players got knocked out by a hit and was a bit woozy on the bench. Green told the trainer to ask him if he can remember his name, and if he can't, tell him he's Wayne Gretsky.

[ccbatson]

OK...I said it shouldn't be a sweep...but....a happy medium would be nice (with us winning of course).

[SCS100]

Congrats to the Pittsburgh Penguins on their sweep of Carolina and reaching the Finals again. Now may the result be the same as last year...

[Detroitej72]

OK...I said it shouldn't be a sweep...but....a happy medium would be nice (with us winning of course).

I love it...common ground, where all us here can agree, regardless of political leanings.:cool:

[d.mcc]

ha ha...I guess this could also work in the funny videos thread:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNj5MGCmP8Y

I love Danny Boy's reaction here...

[Downriviera]

Ha ha, thats classic. I'm amazed at how many players chew their mouth guards, and during play too. Mine stays on my pearly whites from the time I leave the locker room till the time I get back. I made a smart move a few years ago and paid extra to have my dentist make me a custom fit mouth guard. Sure enough, took a puck to the mouth. 25 stitches inside my lip and 15 outside, but no lost teeth, although there is still some numbness 3 years later.

[Downriviera]

RIP Peter Zezel. Great two way player. I hope they have a moment of silence for him before tonights puck drop.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/peter-zezel-passes-away/article1154343/

[Bobl]

I was out of town for the long weekend. What's up with Lidstrom?

[d.mcc]

I was out of town for the long weekend. What's up with Lidstrom?

Lower body injury, my guess is something in his foot, or he pulled a leg muscle...Either way, I say keep he and Pavs out till the SCF

[SCS100]

Now time for the Stanley Cup Finals Part 2.

[Detroitej72]

The Motor City vs The Steel City, Part II :cool:

12 victories down, 4 to go...

[Ray1936]

They gotta stop these overtime games. My heart just can't take many more....:)

[eriedearie]

I know!!! What a nail biter tonight!

[ccbatson]

Come on..in a month you will look back and love it...assuming they win the cup that is.

[alsodave]

I'm with Ray and Erie--what's worse is an OT loss, and having to be at work the next day!

[jiminnm]

Out here in the Mountain time zone, the 8:00 eastern games start at 6:00. So, if they go long it's just more fun hockey to watch.

[d.mcc]

Christ...this guy is back...

To many hats!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deWxtpI4bGg

http://www.theonion.com/content/files/images/crosby_feature.jpg

[ccbatson]

Whew....now onto the next/last series.

[Bobl]

Downside: Three games in four days does not favor the Wings, who are banged up.

Upside: Fortunately, we can watch CBC, and not have to listen to NBC (Nothing But Crosby).

Prediction: The better team will win. Detroit in six, if Lidstrom is healthy.

This should be a good series, folks!

[Downriviera]

One thing I really enjoyed during the games in Chicago were the shots of the organ player jamming out in his Hawks jersey. Nothing like organ music at a hockey game, beats the hell out of the canned music at the Joe. Some good comments regarding this in todays story on Budd Lynch in the freep.

http://www.freep.com/article/20090529/SPORTS05/905290348/0/COL01

[ccbatson]

Maybe the adversity and underdog status will be an asset as opposed to a liability.

[SCS100]

Game 1 to the Wings thanks in large part to Fleury's various appendages.

[Sstashmoo]

Nice to see Crosby and Malkin shut down. The media has these two blown out of proportion. Crosby really looked disappointed..

[Ray1936]

Listening to Pierre LaFooFoo or whatever his name is, I was starting to believe that Crosby was the second coming.

Terrible crew at NBC. I'll be glad to get it back on Versus on Tuesday.

[ccbatson]

Solid win from a weary Wings team.

[Downriviera]

CBC showed a clip of Fleury practicing with the puck bouncing off the end boards at the Joe. Must not have spent enough time on it though. I've played on both rinks and the boards at the Igloo are just as lively as the Joe, so no excuses.

[ronaldj]

2 to1 Detroit prior to the third period. Longest second period I have seen in a long time. Red Wings looking very well. Helm is one strong player.

[SCS100]

3-1 now as Abdelkader scores another goal, this time 1 second later in the 3rd than the last game. Gotta love the State fight song in the background after that, that is very amusing.

[SCS100]

In a somewhat amusing twist, the TSN series page for Detroit and Pittsburgh says that the Penguins lead the series 2-0. Whoops!

[Ray1936]

Those NBC announcers suck. They talk too much; they talk bullshit; and they talk pro Pittsburgh 80% of the time.

On the other hand, nearly all sports announcers talk too bloody much.

[d.mcc]

20 Minutes after being assessed a suspension for game 3, the NHL *surprise* took it back:

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=424480

[ccbatson]

That "play fighting" between the announcers tonight was downright annoying.

[ronaldj]

Ray1936:

You are right. The wife, who is not a big sports fan, hates those guys on NBC. Don Cherry, as nuts as he is, is better listening. Radio might be better and imagining the action. Go Wings. 3 to 1 again.

[ccbatson]

And it is clear that they are doing it as a put on and on purpose.

[alsodave]

Ray1936:

You are right. The wife, who is not a big sports fan, hates those guys on NBC. Don Cherry, as nuts as he is, is better listening. Radio might be better and imagining the action. Go Wings. 3 to 1 again.

I'd expect "homer" announcing from a Pittsburgh station, not from a national broadcast! Those guys were pretty pathetic. I like how they described the scrum at the end as the Pens "message" to the Wings, and how it would carry momentum over in Pittburgh favor for game 3. Mickey Redmond's take--frustration just got the better of them, Malkin in particular. No more, no less.

I either will jerry-rig the antenna for better reception from Channel 9 on Tuesday, or take in JoeVision. :D

[Bobl]

20 Minutes after being assessed a suspension for game 3, the NHL *surprise* took it back:

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=424480
That's OK. But I wonder what the NHL would have done if, say, Zetterberg had pursued and instigated against Crosby?
It will be difficult for the Pens to beat Detroit four out of five games, even with the aid of the league.

[Bobl]

That "play fighting" between the announcers tonight was downright annoying.
Two noteworthy occurrences in these Stanley Cup Finals:

The OTHER team has "run into a hot goaltender".

I find myself agreeing with a post from c!

C, my advice is move to the right, and watch on CBC channel 9, as I have!
:rolleyes:

[Ray1936]

I'd love to watch CBC or pick up the radio play by play, but sitting here 25 miles from Hoover Dam makes those options kinda tuff.......:)

[Bobl]

Ray
Remember the great line from the movie? "Shane. Come back, Shane..."

Come back, Ray. We need your business. You need our real hockey coverage.
And, the bass are waiting!

[Downriviera]

20 Minutes after being assessed a suspension for game 3, the NHL *surprise* took it back:

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=424480

This is too funny. Honestly, I'm glad he is not getting suspended. When Pronger got suspended for the hit on Holmstrom 2 years ago, the Ducks used it as a rallying cry, and went on to win. So, better that Malkyin plays, gets more frustrated and takes penalties.

[ndavies]

I'd love to watch CBC or pick up the radio play by play, but sitting here 25 miles from Hoover Dam makes those options kinda tuff.......:)

ah, the marvels of the internet.
http://www.971theticket.com/
You can stream the play by play.

You can also find both the CBC's and Versus/NBC coverage streamed on the internet if you look hard enough.

[Ray1936]

ah, the marvels of the internet.
http://www.971theticket.com/
You can stream the play by play.

You can also find both the CBC's and Versus/NBC coverage streamed on the internet if you look hard enough.

Well, that's a tempting thought! But I'll stick with my 50" hdtv and just turn the sound way down. Just enough to hear a little bit of the crowd noise and the horn blaring when Abracdabra or what ever his name is scores again........

[ndavies]

What? you don't have your TV hooked up to the computer? How can you live like that?

;)

[d.mcc]

Yours... is... superior...

http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2009/6/1/128883644126572487.jpg

[Downriviera]

Sid Abel + Alex Delvechio + Al Karlander = Abdelkader

[d.mcc]

Sid Abel + Alex Delvechio + Al Karlander = Abdelkader

ha ha, You just have to love it when a local boy makes good

[ccbatson]

Or, turn the audio down and listen to radio coverage while watching the game. Unfortunately, they turn the camera to those baboons in between periods.

[Bobl]

Jinxed!! Red Wings on cover of SI...
1529

[alsodave]

Ahhh, good announcers, and Coach's Corner. Life is good, :)

[ccbatson]

Phhh..jinxes, nobody believes in that superstition anymore do they? Ouch, my playoff beard just got snagged on my shirt.

[alsodave]

How long has Bettman been channeling Christopher Walken?


Aside from some expected evasiveness (from the commissioner), a great Hot Stove segment.

[Sstashmoo]

These refs have it in for our team. One missed call after another, seven Pens on the ice for 24 seconds and no call?

[ccbatson]

No worries, we still lead and are still the best team.

[alsodave]

Too many turnovers, and the power play unit stinks. Back to the Joe--hopefully Hank gets some rest and Datsyuk is well enough to play.

[d.mcc]

Too many turnovers, and the power play unit stinks. Back to the Joe--hopefully Hank gets some rest and Datsyuk is well enough to play.

Rumor is there was a hockey game tonight. I looked and looked through all the channels, but I didn't see anything that resembled anything close to a game.

[gibran]

:eek: oh the horrors...why isnt these games on regular TV?

[d.mcc]

:eek: oh the horrors...why isnt these games on regular TV?

I think they did everyone a favor tonight by hosting it on some obscure network

[alsodave]

I think they did everyone a favor tonight by hosting it on some obscure network

Ha! They should extend the favor, and leave Sean Baligian out of the post-game commentary.

[14509glenfield]

Sour grapes don't produce anything positive. I still believe in them.