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MizMotown
April-01-09, 02:43 PM
Any particular areas you wouldn't want to get lost at?

Bearinabox
April-01-09, 02:48 PM
Woodbridge. I've spent time in just about every part of the city, and the one time I got robbed it was at Forest and Avery. :)

cman710
April-01-09, 02:50 PM
Miz, are you visiting for the Final Four? Or visiting for any particular other reason?

French777
April-01-09, 02:54 PM
Woodbridge? I hope your not serious .. . Out of all the places in Detroit. . . April Fools Joke?

Bearinabox
April-01-09, 03:00 PM
Woodbridge? I hope your not serious .. . Out of all the places in Detroit. . . April Fools Joke?
I am serious that I spend time in many different parts of the city on a fairly regular basis, and that the only time I've ever been robbed was in Woodbridge. I'm facetiously extrapolating my personal experience to mean that Woodbridge is more dangerous than other parts of the city, in an attempt to make a mockery of the whole question "what are the most dangerous parts of Detroit, " because I think it's kind of a dumb question. Got it?

mclark
April-01-09, 03:15 PM
The most dangerous? I'd say Michigan Ave, from downtown to Dearborn, anywhere near rush hour. People drive like there are no defined lanes! It's downright scary... one guy in front of you doing 12 mph, while another is coming up from behind doing 60 and changing lanes with no rhyme or reason.

dosee
April-01-09, 03:29 PM
Birmingham any where near Maple, Old Woodward and Southfield Road after dark if your are a Black male and young....

Alley
April-01-09, 03:31 PM
Vandyke/94 area isn't the greatest for sure!

irish_mafia
April-01-09, 03:35 PM
I would be careful between Grosse Pointe and Livonia and from the River up to Ferndale

Johnlodge
April-01-09, 03:39 PM
Birmingham any where near Maple, Old Woodward and Southfield Road after dark if your are a Black male and young....

Let the suburbs vs. city battling being at the new DetroitYES!

It's gotten us far thus far!

Bearinabox
April-01-09, 03:42 PM
I would be careful between Grosse Pointe and Livonia and from the River up to Ferndale

So stick to Warrendale and Southwest and you'll be fine. :)

TKshreve
April-01-09, 04:24 PM
My block :cool:

ejames01
April-01-09, 06:36 PM
Michigan & Livernois after dark!

:eek:

jams
April-01-09, 07:21 PM
Council Chambers and offices, any intersection Martha Reeves is approaching, and being in the same room with Monica Conyers and LBP.:cool:

English
April-01-09, 08:40 PM
I figure any area that a Detroiter is unfamiliar with will seem more dangerous than others.

For me, it was the North End, and certain areas on the East Side... and neither of those until very recently. My sister's boyfriend lived in the North End, and we knew people all up and down the East Side. Even while teaching at Cass Tech, I got my hair done in some really seedy areas.

Until perhaps 10 years ago, the only places I was wary of in the city during daylight hours were:

--the projects (before they tore those down)
--places I knew were crack houses

That's about it. As I always told my out-of-town friends, "it looks worse than it actually is".

But after 4 years in Ann Arbor, I'm starting to get soft and skittish whenever I go into the neighborhoods outside the CBD. Even my own block was starting to change back in 2004/5. And four years later, it's almost unrecognizable. But unlike a lot of folks who are middle or upper class and living outside of Detroit, as a Detroit native, I know that it's not that the city's changed so drastically... it's that I've changed.

As far as the suburbs? Now, THAT's where I used to be nervous... and I'm a lady! Growing up in CAY-era Detroit, I heard all kinds of things about being caught in certain communities after dark. Now I'm just fine -- still can't pay me to go "up North", though!

smogboy
April-01-09, 08:59 PM
I agree that anywhere near Monica Conyers could be dangerous. You just never know what could get tossed at you within that woman's proximity.

exmotowner
April-02-09, 12:34 PM
I worked there when I was younger and it was scary then. Anyone know if the Commercial Steel Treating plant building is still there?

exmotowner
April-02-09, 12:35 PM
Sorry. LIVERNOIS AND TIREMAN area (I had put that in the title, but I guess that doesnt get posted)

MizMotown
April-02-09, 02:13 PM
lol.. no i'm from Michigan. Currently live in Farmington but i've stayed awhile at Mack and Moross and Wyoming and Tireman. I find the Joy Rd. areas between Wyoming and Telegraph to be pretty dangerous. ALOT of drug trafficking (especially those coming from the suburbs) Also Second/Seward areas even though you have quite a few Wayne Staters staying in the apts closest to the end of the block.

grumpyoldlady
April-02-09, 02:18 PM
ALL unless you are riding in an APC (armored personnel carrier).

patmc16
April-02-09, 02:48 PM
Wyoming and Tireman.

Back in the early 90's, I helped open the Arbor Drugs (I assume there is a CVS there now) at Wyoming and Tireman. Of all of the locations I helped set up (there were a few) this was the only location were they had security before the store was even open for business. On their opening day, the store was open for business for less than 1/2 hour before we had the police there taking away the first shoplifter. After working there for a couple more days, I never set foot back in the building.

Lakesuperior
April-02-09, 03:12 PM
i was lost one night (well, morning really-- it was 2am) around the wyoming/tireman area. i had just moved to detroit and got lost driving home from a party in woodbridge (!). anyways, i stopped at a liquor store in the tireman/wyoming area (only thing really open) to ask for directions and the clerk said to me "get in your car and get out of here as fast as you can." uh, ok... then he told me to wait in my car because he got off work in 15 minutes and he would help me get home.

scare the sh*t of me and then offer to guide me home? no thanks.

kryptonite
April-02-09, 03:22 PM
Avoide my driveway near E. Warren/Outer Drive. I was held up at gunpoint once after I put my car in the garage. So I'm a suburbanite now following that fun.

Irvine Laird
April-02-09, 04:15 PM
I first came to Detroit in 1994 as a freshman at Michigan Christian College in Rochester Hills. My hometown in the Ohio Firelands, a sleepy little university town of less than 20,000 residents, resembles a Norman Rockwell painting.

Detroit scared the hell out of me. When driving through the city on I-75 to or from home, I would put the hammer down to get through as fast as I could. The only thing cruising faster than my 90 mph were the prayers on my lips. The heart palpitations did not stop until I saw the Oakland Mall sign northbound or the outlet mall southbound.

My 18-year old fresh-off-the-farm self would be thunderstruck to learn that 15 years later, getting lost in Detroit is one of my favorite things to do.

I agree that the area by Outer Drive and Warren is spooky, especially off the beaten path. I've been over in there at night and saw enough to know that I don't want to go back. I read about a lot of bad stuff going down in the area between Seven Mile and Eight Mile close to the Chrysler Freeway. Based on my observations driving through there a few times, those rumors have some substance.

ndavies
April-02-09, 06:47 PM
Woodward and Jefferson, You never know when Monica Conyers is going to come out of that building on the corner.

HPGrmln
April-02-09, 07:47 PM
"I read about a lot of bad stuff going down in the area between Seven Mile and Eight Mile close to the Chrysler Freeway. Based on my observations driving through there a few times, those rumors have some substance.[/quote]"

Thats heavy drug territory. The thing is, just a few blocks west of John R is Ferndale, and they really dont have a lot of major problems.It pretty much changes immediatly across 8 mile. One side has mostly stripped, boarded-up houses. The other side is intact and occuppied. Such a sharp contrast for just being a few blocks apart. Kinda eerie.

izzyindetroit
April-02-09, 08:51 PM
MLK and Third where all the homeless crackheads and head cases hangout. The people hanging out there can be extremely unpredictable, which scares me every time I roll through the area. I was riding my bicycle through there last summer and a guy grabbed this brick and threw it across the street at a pigeon 3 feet in front of me. I nearly pooped my pants.

daddeeo
April-02-09, 09:20 PM
And people wonder why everyone (that can) want to move out of Detroit.

Bearinabox
April-02-09, 09:41 PM
another friend of mine helped plant a garden at that corner that was pretty much destroyed within a week.
Hate to play Blame the Victim, but whose idea was it to plant a garden on that particular corner? Anyone who's ever been there could have seen that coming.

reddog289
April-03-09, 01:35 AM
The only real trouble I have ever had in Detroit was at Comerica Park and around there. From the begining of the 80's on, all of the places that I have stayed at in Detroit I have heard gun shots , either close by or off in the distance. As for the suburbs I would stay clear of Little Saigon in Inkster which I hear is bad AND I don't care to investigate.

reddog289
April-03-09, 01:53 AM
And now that I think of it. When an ex girlfriend of mine lived at Lexington/Lafayette&Green. All I would hear from a co-worker was "Get her and the kid outta there". That came from the mouth of a person who lived in the Michigan/Livernois area.. While I sat on the porch at night most of the gun fire that I did hear came from the Northeast which was his neighborhood. Actually thanks to Cub, I have found some areas on the Eastside that I would not want to be at. But you have to remember anything can happen at any given moment.

Ocean2026
April-04-09, 08:19 AM
Maybe someone with a bit of mapping ability can post a map of the best and worst neighborhoods. I had a thread on the old board about this and it was packed with responses- seems like an interesting topic.

Artistic
April-04-09, 08:29 AM
dadeeo...46...white male....works from home.....can live anywhere....will be in town this week to tour condos, I WANT to live in Detroit....I love everything about it...good and bad

LodgeDodger
April-04-09, 08:38 AM
I figure any area that a Detroiter is unfamiliar with will seem more dangerous than others.

As far as the suburbs? Now, THAT's where I used to be nervous... and I'm a lady! Growing up in CAY-era Detroit, I heard all kinds of things about being caught in certain communities after dark. Now I'm just fine -- still can't pay me to go "up North", though!

Sorry English, I can't let that last comment slide. Were you to be stranded "Up North", you wouldn't find yourself in any danger. Your opinion of northern Michigan is unfounded. You would be assisted by folks who are genuinely helpful and caring. Don't paint everyone with the same brush.

A number of years ago, I was in a post-grad program at MSU. Some of the meeting locations were in various parts of the state. Some of the blacks in the program refused to travel into Northern Michigan. They were very vocal about this. I lost quite a bit of respect for them after that. After all, this girl from the north traveled into Detroit in order to fulfill the requirements of the program.

One more thing, when I returned to the city from the northern part of Michigan, I was worried I might say the "wrong" thing or might not be as knowledgeable about diversity. That fear was unfounded. I've never met so many racists as I have in the city and in surrounding areas. Many of the racists are black.

English, please don't make such a region or ethnicity, unless you've lived there.

Thank you.

ndavies
April-04-09, 09:51 AM
How about recent crime reports.
http://detroit.mi.crimeviewcommunity.com/wizard.asp

S.P.A.
April-04-09, 10:14 AM
The most dangerous area That I've grew up in Detroit was... Wait a minute! every area in Detroit is the most dangerous.

7andkelly
April-04-09, 10:20 AM
Thanks for the link, NDavies.
In the last ten days it looks like there have only been 3 auto thefts, 2 burglaries and a larceny (reported) in the 7 Mile and Redmond area. I feel much safer now.:o

Ocean2026
April-04-09, 11:07 AM
thanks for the link Davies.


Kelly -Hope you feel really safe - those are only the crimes people lived to report lol

Bearinabox
April-04-09, 05:33 PM
Wait a minute! every area in Detroit is the most dangerous.
That is a statistical impossibility. It's like when Garrison Keillor says that all the children in Lake Wobegon are above average.

Ocean2026
April-04-09, 06:17 PM
Bear -Exactly right - because there are no children IN lake wobegon - only fish- and they are all below average.

7andkelly
April-04-09, 08:22 PM
Ocean, some truth to that, sad to say.

It's one thing to feel safe when it's just you. In some ways it's a measure of courage ... or maybe brains.

It's a different matter entirely when you think you're putting your family or others with you in harms way. The bar is much higher then.

English
April-04-09, 09:28 PM
Sorry English, I can't let that last comment slide. Were you to be stranded "Up North", you wouldn't find yourself in any danger. Your opinion of northern Michigan is unfounded. You would be assisted by folks who are genuinely helpful and caring. Don't paint everyone with the same brush.

A number of years ago, I was in a post-grad program at MSU. Some of the meeting locations were in various parts of the state. Some of the blacks in the program refused to travel into Northern Michigan. They were very vocal about this. I lost quite a bit of respect for them after that. After all, this girl from the north traveled into Detroit in order to fulfill the requirements of the program.

One more thing, when I returned to the city from the northern part of Michigan, I was worried I might say the "wrong" thing or might not be as knowledgeable about diversity. That fear was unfounded. I've never met so many racists as I have in the city and in surrounding areas. Many of the racists are black.

English, please don't make such a region or ethnicity, unless you've lived there.

Thank you.


Black Michiganders didn't just come up with the "don't go up North" mantra for no reason at all. You'd do well to learn a little history before you lecture me over a lighthearted, throwaway comment.

In that original post, I could have said more about "up North" from PERSONAL experience. H*ll, I could say more about what you've typed above, but I'll show you more respect than you've done for me and your classmates... and refrain. But thanks for confirming what we already know.

And by the way, you're quite welcome.

MickeyMac
April-05-09, 01:22 PM
What about West Grand Blvd.? I hear thats a rough area too.

Russix
April-05-09, 01:39 PM
thanks for the link Davies.


Kelly -Hope you feel really safe - those are only the crimes people lived to report lol

Or didn't get bored waiting for the Police and gave up on filing a report.

Flip
April-07-09, 06:08 AM
What ALL of you folks fail to realize, is that the detroit police are a sad state.
It is their job to "Roust" these rats who would , throw bricks at you, call you names, try and rob, extort and cause the City it "EARNED" reputation.
I want a Badge, and a Boss who wont Stop me, and Watch how much the City Gets More Safe !!
What is Required is to let ALL the low life's know that the police WIL NOT let this continue, with NO APOLOGIES !
If your a rat, Get out or Get Ready for BIG Troubles in your life !NOT A CUSHY jail cell, Just Shipped out of the state, Jus hasssled until you Cry uncle !
Just made misable, Until you learn, on that same level as a dog does, YOu make Trouble, IT AINT WORTH IT !

mauser
April-07-09, 08:31 AM
Any particular areas you wouldn't want to get lost at? Yeah - 11 Mile and Main Street in downtown Royal Oak at about 2:10 am on a Friday night.


:eek:

softailrider
April-07-09, 08:07 PM
What about West Grand Blvd.? I hear thats a rough area too.

WGB and what? Near the hospital it's pretty nice. Not bad all the way down near Fort Street either.

HPGrmln
April-07-09, 10:19 PM
1) Northeast, N. Of Harper, East of Gratiot. That old precint at one time had the highest number of priority calls in the nation.

2) Dexter or Linwood, the further south the worse. An old supervisor of mine grew up there and said "Ha ha, Id like to see you try to go down there. Id pay to watch that."

3) 7 mile/8 mile and 75. Absolutely rotted. Over 1/2 the houses are boarded. Lots and lots of dopers and hookers.The vagrants at the 8 Mile bridge are the more desireable denizens there.They just want money, not to peddle filth. And it seems like every week, I see another house burned just within view from 75.

Lets be fair, the suburbs have some bad places too. Pontiac, much as I like that city, has multiple bad areas. Mt. Clemens, Walnut street north of downtown, Dickinson/Rathbone on the east end. The Norwayne area of Westland is kind of iffy. Im trying to be fair and not single out the city.

Norwalk
April-07-09, 10:52 PM
The Coleman A. Young Municipal Center City Council Chamber hands down!

Philbo
April-07-09, 11:12 PM
One time I talked to a guy who worked for Michigan Bell who collected coins frome the pay phones. He said Rosa Parks frome W. Grand Blvd. to Highland Park and the surrounding area was the worst in his opinion. At least in terms of robberies.:cool: